Intel Desktop launch is exactly as we thought

[Sauron]

7 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

Bunch of hate in here.  9900k is going to be a gaming monster.  Soldered 8 core with ringbus boosting to 5GHz off the shelf?  Yes please.

'cause we totally need 8 cores and 16 threads for games... the i5 will be just as good in games, guaranteed. Maybe even better as it will have more room for overclocking. Either way, dropping 530$ on a cpu for games alone is... questionable to say the least, unless you have 5000$ to blow on the whole system and are already buying two 2080tis.

[TahoeDust]

Just now, Sauron said:

'cause we totally need 8 cores and 16 threads for games... the i5 will be just as good in games, guaranteed. Maybe even better as it will have more room for overclocking. Either way, dropping 530$ on a cpu for games alone is... questionable to say the least, unless you have 5000$ to blow on the whole system and are already buying two 2080tis.

Only one 2080 ti

[schwellmo92]

23 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Well im more looking at the top end GPU market.

 

1080ti's for example are still as high as pre 20 series launch.

 

And the used market is a joke, with 1080ti's selling for £500+. Considering you can buy new for £600.....

 

i mean £600-700 is fine ..for a 2080. But not a 1080ti, it 'should' have droped down in price. But since the 2080 came out about £100 abvoe the 1080ti, they kept the 1080ti at its pre 20 series price. I cant remember the last time a series of card stayed at the same price after a new series launched.

The 1080 ti isn’t going to drop in price man, it performs as well as an 2080 but has more RAM in exchange for RTX, I think it’s priced well.

 

I can get used 1080 ti for 380 pounds equivalent.

[Princess Luna]

Ok, where is it? I don't think there's any one as annoyed at waiting as I am already.

[SolarNova]

3 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

The 1080 ti isn’t going to drop in price man, it performs as well as an 2080 but has more RAM in exchange for RTX, I think it’s priced well.

 

I can get used 1080 ti for 380 pounds equivalent.

Got no chance of getting a used 1080ti for £380 in the UK. Can forget import aswell due to 20% tax.

[Sauron]

4 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

Only one 2080 ti

If you only want one 2080ti, the 9900k is straight up money in the trash. Might as well burn the extra 200$ because you won't get any benefit.

[RollTime]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Ok, where is it? I don't think there's any one as annoyed at waiting as I am already.

What do you mean? I linked to an article.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, RollTime said:

What do you mean? I linked to an article.

The processors at the shop shelves?

[schwellmo92]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

The processors at the shop shelves?

This is a better article which has dates https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-9th-generation-coffee-lake-refresh,37898.html

[TahoeDust]

2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

If you only want one 2080ti, the 9900k is straight up money in the trash. Might as well burn the extra 200$ because you won't get any benefit.

I have seen my 7820x using all 16 threads many times.  Just saturday night I was gaming, streaming to twitch, recording, and casting the fight to my tv...I'm not sure how well that would have worked with half the cores.

[Shreyas1]

49 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Its a bad time to be upgrading.

GPU prices are stupid high atm, RAM prices are still high. And now CPU prices look to be creeping up.

 

used market is staying high aswell due to new releases being rather lackluster. 2080 being the same as 1080ti, 2080ti being massivly overpriced, CPU's in simular situation.

 

bad times.

better than January at least

[RollTime]

6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

The processors at the shop shelves?

Oh, that. Sorry. Another person mentioned it.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, TahoeDust said:

I have seen my 7820x using all 16 threads many times.  Just saturday night I was gaming, streaming to twitch, recording, and casting the fight to my tv...I'm not sure how well that would have worked with half the cores.

You don't really have to justify your user case to others, the i9 9900K will be the best solution to any one that has use for it's 8 cores, it is that simple.

[Sauron]

2 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

I have seen my 7820x using all 16 threads many times.  Just saturday night I was gaming, streaming to twitch, recording, and casting the fight to my tv...I'm not sure how well that would have worked with half the cores.

we're talking 8 vs 6, not 8 vs 4...

[TahoeDust]

6 minutes ago, Sauron said:

we're talking 8 vs 6, not 8 vs 4...

Ok...I am not sure how well that would have worked with 25% fewer cores and 62% fewer threads?

[Misanthrope]

I am really having a hard time seeing the point of the 9900k: Gamers won't see that much (if any) improvement from HT and where applications could use the additional threads well, AMD has a better value on either as many or far more threads depending if you go for the 1700/2700 or jump up to Threadripper.

 

9700k might be the chip to get since the extra performance on single core is going to be worth it for many gamers but as you start needing more threads the strength of them starts to matter less than how many specially if they're close so 8/16 where you use all 16 will probably not beat the 2700 by too much of a margin, like not enough to justify the premium price for most because if you want the premium price again, just jump to Threadripper then.

[RollTime]

3 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

I am really having a hard time seeing the point of the 9900k: Gamers won't see that much (if any) improvement from HT and where applications could use the additional threads well, AMD has a better value on either as many or far more threads depending if you go for the 1700/2700 or jump up to Threadripper.

 

9700k might be the chip to get since the extra performance on single core is going to be worth it for many gamers but as you start needing more threads the strength of them starts to matter less than how many specially if they're close so 8/16 where you use all 16 will probably not beat the 2700 by too much of a margin, like not enough to justify the premium price for most because if you want the premium price again, just jump to Threadripper then.

But honestly, 6/12 8700k might be better for gaming when delidded. 

[TahoeDust]

3 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

I am really having a hard time seeing the point of the 9900k: Gamers won't see that much (if any) improvement from HT and where applications could use the additional threads well, AMD has a better value on either as many or far more threads depending if you go for the 1700/2700 or jump up to Threadripper.

 

9700k might be the chip to get since the extra performance on single core is going to be worth it for many gamers but as you start needing more threads the strength of them starts to matter less than how many specially if they're close so 8/16 where you use all 16 will probably not beat the 2700 by too much of a margin, like not enough to justify the premium price for most because if you want the premium price again, just jump to Threadripper then.

People who want the best gaming performance and also can use the threads for production?

[TahoeDust]

1 minute ago, RollTime said:

But honestly, 6/12 8700k might be better for gaming when delidded. 

Why?  Smaller ring bus?

[Sauron]

4 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

Ok...I am not sure how well that would have worked with 25% fewer cores and 62% fewer threads?

And 40% more performance per core? Still, I said "in games" - streaming is another matter.

[PlayStation 2]

The 9900K seems fairly pointless in the face of it. If you REALLY need 8 core and 16 threads, sure, but at that point, the 9700K or the Threadripper chips are right next door.

[RollTime]

3 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

Why?  Smaller ring bus?

Partially. Also HT is helpful. 

[TahoeDust]

Sheesh...  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819117957

 

I'm feeling pretty good about my pre-order from B&H for $530 with no tax and free shipping.

[RollTime]

https://www.wired.com/story/intel-2018-core-i9/

 

Update: Wired has bought into it.

[TahoeDust]

1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

Lol, I thought the Destiny engram box was a joke.  That's actually a thing? 

Apparently.  Sucks that it is not going to stack neatly with the rest of the CPU boxes.