asus b450-f strix, gskill 2x8gb 3000 tridentz rgb, ryzen 5 2600

[TMobile]

1 minute ago, Derrk said:

 

maybe try increasing the ram boot voltage. It'll be somewhere on the same page of bios as docp. If that doesn't help, maybe just increase the voltage all together by .01

One of these?

[Derrk]

2 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

One of these?

your motherboard may not have the option, but some of them have the option to increase the boot voltage. It'll make the ram voltage increase more than usual to post. If you cant find it, i'd set dram voltage up to 1.36 and so on to see if it helps. I wouldn't go above 1.4 though, and i'd try to stay below that for daily use if possible

[TMobile]

1 minute ago, Derrk said:

your motherboard may not have the option, but some of them have the option to increase the boot voltage. It'll make the ram voltage increase more than usual to post. If you cant find it, i'd set dram voltage up to 1.36 and so on to see if it helps. I wouldn't go above 1.4 though, and i'd try to stay below that for daily use if possible

I put it at 1.36, I'll let you know of anything happens

[TMobile]

5 minutes ago, Derrk said:

your motherboard may not have the option, but some of them have the option to increase the boot voltage. It'll make the ram voltage increase more than usual to post. If you cant find it, i'd set dram voltage up to 1.36 and so on to see if it helps. I wouldn't go above 1.4 though, and i'd try to stay below that for daily use if possible

It went to the same screen as before, on the first try

[TMobile]

14 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

I put it at 1.36, I'll let you know of anything happens

I put it at 1.35 v and 2933 mhz, and it seems to be stable (startup, without wekrd shutdowns), might i have a bad component?

[Derrk]

17 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

I put it at 1.35 v and 2933 mhz, and it seems to be stable (startup, without wekrd shutdowns), might i have a bad component?

It could be possible that the b450 caps memory at 2933, but that seems unlikely to me

[nick name]

@TheThymo Your motherboard is trying memory training when it does those boot loops. If it can't get the memory running than it returns it to stock settings and it takes you to that screen where you have to press F1.

 

Change your SOC voltage to 1.1V and if that fails to remedy the problem increase DRAM voltage to 1.4V. You might not need that much, but it can be less frustrating to start higher and dial it back.  

[TMobile]

19 minutes ago, Derrk said:

It could be possible that the b450 caps memory at 2933, but that seems unlikely to me

On the asus website it states that this mobo can run 3200 memory, sp that would be unlikely

[TMobile]

6 minutes ago, nick name said:

@TheThymo Your motherboard is trying memory training when it does those boot loops. If it can't get the memory running than it returns it to stock settings and it takes you to that screen where you have to press F1.

 

Change your SOC voltage to 1.1V and if that fails to remedy the problem increase DRAM voltage to 1.4V. You might not need that much, but it can be less frustrating to start higher and dial it back.  

Ok, thank you, ill try this tomorrow

 

Edit: do you mean the 'cpu soc' that you can see on the picture above, that is at 1.55 (auto)

[nick name]

1 minute ago, TheThymo said:

Ok, thank you, ill try this tomorrow

 

Edit: do you mean the 'cpu soc' that you can see on the picture above, that is at 1.55 (auto)

Yes I do. 

 

Also, don't pay too much attention to the voltages you see the board using while sitting in BIOS. That 1.55V SOC voltage is a good example as to why because it's never gonna run like that in Windows. Running anything higher than 1.1V for SOC to help stabilize RAM usually hurts more than it helps and certainly never as high as 1.55V. You never actually want to go higher than 1.2V actually.

[Detwolverine]

I have this board with a 2700 and Corsair 4x8 kit of 3000mhz @ 15-17-17-35 (on the qvl) and I cant get mine to run off either docp or manually inputting spees and timings. What is weird about this board is no matter what you set for dram it reports back after reboot as running at 1.2v. Soc voltage is stuck at 1.55 which i really hope is a reporting issue and not a true value otherwise im probably killing my chip. It runs soc at 1.55v whether you have everything at stock or trying docp or manual inputs. The only option is to use offset to lower it and to get to a more usual 1.05 it would be a -0.500 offset which doesnt post. Ive been dueling this board for a week. Only one bios (0504) available on the website still. If anyone has any clue...

[nick name]

Just now, Detwolverine said:

I have this board with a 2700 and Corsair 4x8 kit of 3000mhz @ 15-17-17-35 (on the qvl) and I cant get mine to run off either docp or manually inputting spees and timings. What is weird about this board is no matter what you set for dram it reports back after reboot as running at 1.2v. Soc voltage is stuck at 1.55 which i really hope is a reporting issue and not a true value otherwise im probably killing my chip. It runs soc at 1.55v whether you have everything at stock or trying docp or manual inputs. The only option is to use offset to lower it and to get to a more usual 1.05 it would be a -0.500 offset which doesnt post. Ive been dueling this board for a week. Only one bios (0504) available on the website still. If anyone has any clue...

Can you manually set the SOC voltage to 1.1V? Because if it is actually running SOC at 1.55V after boot it is probably going to harm your CPU. Running more than 1.2V is considered unsafe and really unnecessary. 

[Detwolverine]

2 minutes ago, nick name said:

Can you manually set the SOC voltage to 1.1V? Because if it is actually running SOC at 1.55V after boot it is probably going to harm your CPU. Running more than 1.2V is considered unsafe and really unnecessary. 

No, as far as I can tell you cant manually set soc, just an offset. Like I said, i tried getting to 1.05 by using a -0.500 offset which actually shows as red when you input it as its extreme. But that results in no post.

[Detwolverine]

4 minutes ago, nick name said:

Can you manually set the SOC voltage to 1.1V? Because if it is actually running SOC at 1.55V after boot it is probably going to harm your CPU. Running more than 1.2V is considered unsafe and really unnecessary. 

If you look at his screenshot above, once you click auto it only allows auto or offset in the drop down. Ive built dozens of pcs using Asus boards and I cant figure this one out.

[nick name]

3 minutes ago, Detwolverine said:

No, as far as I can tell you cant manually set soc, just an offset. Like I said, i tried getting to 1.05 by using a -0.500 offset which actually shows as red when you input it as its extreme. But that results in no post.

 

1 minute ago, Detwolverine said:

If you look at his screenshot above, once you click auto it only allows auto or offset in the drop down. Ive built dozens of pcs using Asus boards and I cant figure this one out.

Oh shit. I don't know if I'd continue to run that board until they get that fixed. AMD has definitely said that SOC voltage above 1.2V is unsafe and that is well above 1.2V.  I was assuming it was just a weird voltage that exists in BIOS only and doesn't persist past booting into Windows. 

[nick name]

@TheThymo @Detwolverine

 

You guys might want to use Ryzen Master to change your SOC voltage until you can get it sorted out in BIOS.

[Detwolverine]

Just now, nick name said:

 

Oh shit. I don't know if I'd continue to run that board until they get that fixed. AMD has definitely said that SOC voltage above 1.2V is unsafe and that is well above 1.2V.  I was assuming it was just a weird voltage that exists in BIOS only and doesn't persist past booting into Windows. 

It might be. I was fighting just getting it to post at anything other than 2133 so never actually got into hwinfo inside windows. I assume soc voltage shows up somewhere on there. I can try that again tomorrow, but it seems to be a thing with this board. There is a short topic on these issues on the rog forums but its not getting anywhere either.

[TMobile]

@nick name @Detwolverine this got really interesting really quick, i'm going to get a hold of asus support first thing tomorrow xD. Great first self-built-pc experience lol

[Detwolverine]

Just now, TheThymo said:

@nick name @Detwolverine this got really interesting really quick, i'm going to get a hold of asus support first thing tomorrow xD. Great first self-built-pc experience lol

This is about my 30th self-built-pc experience and sometimes I still dont have a clue.

[TMobile]

Just now, TheThymo said:

@nick name @Detwolverine this got really interesting really quick, i'm going to get a hold of asus support first thing tomorrow xD. Great first self-built-pc experience lol

But is it safe to asume this is a mobo issue and not yet a ram or cpu issue?

[nick name]

3 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

But is it safe to asume this is a mobo issue and not yet a ram or cpu issue?

This definitely sounds like a new motherboard issue. And unfortunately it sounds like it might be unsafe to run if it continues past the BIOS. 

[Detwolverine]

Good morning guys,

 

It would seem that the 1.55v reported in bios is not a true value. I reset my ram to 2933 (Instead of 3000 just to see if it was a little more stable) and manually set my timings once again. Manually set DRAM at 1.36. And left SOC voltage at Auto. After reboot bios reports DRAM at 1.2 and SOC at 1.55. Running RealBench 2.56 or even at idle, I'm seeing 0.925v max for SoC Voltage in HWInfo64. So it seems like voltage behavior is normal inside of Windows.

 

I guess that brings up my next issue with this board... When you manually set timings, it seems like it really does not like to let you set even numbers. What I input in bios timings was my exact timings my ram is rated for 15-17-17-35. In HWInfo, I'm seeing 16-17-17-35. Ryzen 2000 series might be better with ram overall, but its still no fun to get working up to its rated spec. Probably unless you have Sammy-B's.

[Detwolverine]

13 hours ago, nick name said:

This definitely sounds like a new motherboard issue. And unfortunately it sounds like it might be unsafe to run if it continues past the BIOS. 

Should be safe to run anyways, from what I am seeing.

[Evanair]

Jesus this thread went off the rails sounding like you could fry your PC at the drop of a hat.

 

I've built two Ryzen systems on Asus boards, a x370 and a b450.  This issue you're describing has everything to do with CPU SOC voltage.

 

Now first things first, just ignore the settings if they are on AUTO as they aren't always true readings for you to see. So that 1.6 or whatever SOC voltage it said probably wasnt accurate.

 

Set so to manual, and run at at 1.05 to start. Also go into your power options and set LLCs to level 1 or 2.

 

This should help fix your issue.

[Detwolverine]

1 minute ago, Evanair said:

Jesus this thread went off the rails sounding like you could fry your PC at the drop of a hat.

 

I've built two Ryzen systems on Asus boards, a x370 and a b450.  This issue you're describing has everything to do with CPU SOC voltage.

 

Now first things first, just ignore the settings if they are on AUTO as they aren't always true readings for you to see. So that 1.6 or whatever SOC voltage it said probably wasnt accurate.

 

Set so to manual, and run at at 1.05 to start. Also go into your power options and set LLCs to level 1 or 2.

 

This should help fix your issue.

There is no manual soc voltage on the Strix b450 f. Auto or offset.