Medium size rack build

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Hello, 

 

We are fixing the 2. floor at home and will by the end of the year be in need of a more professional way to organize our growing network.

Im working as an electrician, so I have the physicall pulling of cables under controll.

 

What I need help with is picking out the rack and the components inside, and probably the AP’s.

 

I have worked on 180cm high racks named “Toten” and like their esthetics, but are thinking like 15-30U.

I have also fallen in love with the idea of powering networking over UPS with the benefit of no downtime during poweroutages, which happens alot during winter.

Fibre is soon to come to my area so I want to prepare for it.

Network size will be under 24 cat 6 and under 12 coax.

 

What to pick out?

 

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My ideas currently revolves around:

 

Toten 15U wallmounted caninet (1)

Toten rack shelf (2)

Toten rack drawer (3)

Eaton rack ups (4)

Ubiquity rack network stuff (5)

Random 24 slot cat6 patch rail (6)

Random 10+ slot coax patch rail (7)

Toten cable management, rings & brush (8)

Fans for cooling (9)

UniFi AP’s (10)

 

* unsure about the estetics of the cabinet, is there like a catalogue avilable?

*  are there vertical cable management rings avilable?

* unsure about the size and brand of ups

* unsure if i should go with ubiquity stuff, i gues thats ment for professional use and probably pricy.

* are fans necessary?

 

(1) https://www.totencanada.ca/accessories_drawers_2u.html

(2) https://www.totencanada.ca/accessories_shelves_2posts_solid_2u_15.html

(3) https://www.totencanada.ca/accessories_drawers_2u.html

(4) http://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/catalog/backup-power-ups-surge-it-power-distribution/eaton-5p-ups.html

(5) https://www.ubnt.com/

(6) https://goo.gl/images/CMYZpi

(7) https://goo.gl/images/LR2YBS

(8) https://www.totencanada.ca/cablemanagement.html

(9) http://www.toten.com.cn/english/pj/207.htm

(10) https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-pro/

 

 

 

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Edited August 13, 2018 by Not Eligible For Stars

[Donut417]

1 minute ago, Not Eligible For Stars said:

My ideas currently revolves around:

 

Toten 15U wallmounted caninet (1)

Toten rack shelf (2)

Toten rack drawer (3)

Eaton rack ups (4)

Ubiquity rack network stuff (5)

Random 24 slot cat6 patch rail (6)

Random 10+ slot coax patch rail (7)

Toten cable management, rings & brush (8)

UniFi AP’s (10)

 

* unsure about the estetics of the cabinet, is there like a catalogue avilable?

*  are there vertical cable management rings avilable?

* unsure about the size and brand of ups

* unsure if i should go with ubiquity stuff, i gues thats ment for professional use and probably pricy.

 

 

(1) https://www.totencanada.ca/accessories_drawers_2u.html

(2) https://www.totencanada.ca/accessories_shelves_2posts_solid_2u_15.html

(3) https://www.totencanada.ca/accessories_drawers_2u.html

(4) http://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/catalog/backup-power-ups-surge-it-power-distribution/eaton-5p-ups.html

(5) https://www.ubnt.com/

(6) https://goo.gl/images/CMYZpi

(7) https://goo.gl/images/LR2YBS

(8) https://www.totencanada.ca/cablemanagement.html

 

(10) https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-pro/

 

 

 

UPS wise, APC and Cyberpower I know are well known brands. I had recent a cyberpower unit that died, after about 5 years of torture. Well the first few years were torture as it took care of a line of surges. https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1272971 this site explains the different types of UPS's. I have a line interactive one myself. My current unit is an APC model, it seems to work. The fact is, you kinda need to know what devices need backup power and what their draw is, that will give you a clear indication of how big of a unit to get. Rack mount units are also avaliable. 

 

You would be surprised about ubiquity costs. I think a edge router is like $50-$80 in the US depends on the model. You also have PFsense if you want to build your own router. Mikrotik is another name Ive seen throw around here.

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looks like line interactive ups is what i want ? backuptime should stretch into 4 hours approximately, when every spec is decided i can do the math to chose the rigth size.

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UPS wise, I would stick with APC (great customer support, easily replaceable batteries, most features) with something like a Smart-UPS series for a small enclosure. There's a lot of things you need to consider when building a server rack, things such as noise, heat, and HVAC units. 1 rack mounted server in a closet might be okay, but add a firewall, switch,or a NAS (especially 4U size with over 8 bays) and you're going to see some heat issues. The cooling might be fine if it sits out in the open in a living room or office, but if you shove it in a walk-in closet, you're going to overheat quickly, especially in a fully enclosed rack. To give you an idea of what my small office with a 30U rack looks like: a 1U gateway, a 2U Cisco Meraki MS120-48, a 4U NAS, a 2U surveillance server, a 2U Domain Controller, 2 UPS (redundancy), 2U VoIP switch, and 2U punchdown block. All of this is in a 200 sq ft room and requires a separate AC unit to keep the room under 22 C. An open air rack might help, but then you have the cons of it being more open to dust, louder, etc. and you're talking about a 1-2 degree difference. In our larger offices, the wiring racks are typically in larger rooms that have multiple ventilation ducts, so cooling is not an issue. In small business, I have seen them add a vent to a closet from their existing system and work fine, but those were typically open air racks that were mounted closer to the vent.

 

The Ubiquit APs are good, I'm not a fan of the switches though. If you can find a good deal on a used HP managed switch or a Cisco switch, you'll be better off. We use the Cisco Meraki series on one of our smaller offices and it is much easier to manage (but also, more costly). As for the cabinet, just whatever fits and has a decent warranty. Also, your switches, routers, firewall, and gateway will generate more heat than you realize, so again, plan out your total power consumption and cooling. Definitely start looking into sound dampening materials that don't retain heat (maybe get with a local radio station or studio and see what they use to dampen echos). 

[Donut417]

6 hours ago, Not Eligible For Stars said:

retch into 4 hours approximately,

Hope you got deep pockets. My old Cyber power UPS was rated for 810watts. My gaming rig just sitting draws about 130 watts with one monitor connected to the battery sockets. Id get about 15 mins. That costed about $170 USD. So you might be looking at a very expensive UPS or many UPS"s and that why your going to need deep pockets. OR you might want to look in to a generator, and UPS's that are OK running on generator power.