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4070 Super almost always at 100%

Mayoo

Yesterday I finally upgraded from a 1070 to a 4070 Super. First thing I noticed, as soon as I enter a game, temp goes up to 70C+ and utilization is 100% almost all the time.

 

I tried in Guardians of the Galaxy, Portal: Revolution (more on this one later), Lego StarWars, Doom Eternal. They are all at 100% and temps go up to 77C. Chrono Trigger is the only exception but I think it's normal due to the nature of the game.

 

Portal: This one I can change the max frame from 400 to 200, this downs the utilization to about 40\~60%.

 

Fans are constantly at 60% due to this, which brings more noise.

 

Maybe I was used to my 1070 (STRIX OC) with a 3 fans setup. My 4070S is a Zotac Twin Edge.

 

Is this normal behavior for this new card?

 

Note: I've reset my BIOS, it was in fast mode. Installed (clean) a driver update.

 

Attached is a screenshot of some stats while in Doom Eternal, after loading my campaign, not even moving.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Mayoo said:

Yesterday I finally upgraded from a 1070 to a 4070 Super. First thing I noticed, as soon as I enter a game, temp goes up to 70C+ and utilization is 100% almost all the time.

 

I tried in Guardians of the Galaxy, Portal: Revolution (more on this one later), Lego StarWars, Doom Eternal. They are all at 100% and temps go up to 77C. Chrono Trigger is the only exception but I think it's normal due to the nature of the game.

 

Portal: This one I can change the max frame from 400 to 200, this downs the utilization to about 40\~60%.

 

Fans are constantly at 60% due to this, which brings more noise.

 

Maybe I was used to my 1070 (STRIX OC) with a 3 fans setup. My 4070S is a Zotac Twin Edge.

 

Is this normal behavior for this new card?

 

Note: I've reset my BIOS, it was in fast mode. Installed (clean) a driver update.

 

Attached is a screenshot of some stats while in Doom Eternal, after loading my campaign, not even moving.

 

 

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You could enable vsync or limit max FPS using geforce expierience.
I'm running AMD card and limiting FPS to 120 fps otherwise GPU is super loud when running at 100% and 350w

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Well yeah, it's the default in most games to push the GPU as hard as they can to get as many FPS CPU power allowing, as mentioned if you're looking for less utilization there are ways to cap it, but then... why the GPU upgrade?

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your answers helps confirm the situation.

 

I do believe it's a logic reason, but I'm wondering why my 1070 wasn't also doing this. I think it's the only part that confuses me now.

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6 minutes ago, Mayoo said:

I'm wondering why my 1070 wasn't also doing this.

What was it doing?

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4 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

What was it doing?

Barely used, fans barely moving, yet it was yielding expected frame rates (I was comparing with various benchmarks).

 

Most of it's life, it was paired with an i7 2600 but I'm on a 5600x since a few months now and it was like this also.

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8 minutes ago, Mayoo said:

Barely used, fans barely moving, yet it was yielding expected frame rates (I was comparing with various benchmarks).

 

Most of it's life, it was paired with an i7 2600 but I'm on a 5600x since a few months now and it was like this also.

Difficult to say without knowing what you used to measure usage and in which particular game. 

If you played CPU intensive game then you would often see the card using less than 100% because it would be waiting on CPU. 

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You went from a 170W 3 fan GPU to a 220W 2 fan GPU. It is going to get generally hotter and noisier in use. If reducing noise is the main goal, setting a power limit should accomplish this. Otherwise you can try a global frame rate cap which is more functional (keep it at or below display refresh rate) but more variable in load depending on game/settings.

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11 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Difficult to say without knowing what you used to measure usage and in which particular game. 

If you played CPU intensive game then you would often see the card using less than 100% because it would be waiting on CPU. 

If it can help, most of the games I mentioned were also used for both.

 

CPU wise, would explain for the i7 but I didn't change cpu yesterday so it would invalidate this reason.

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1 minute ago, porina said:

You went from a 170W 3 fan GPU to a 220W 2 fan GPU. It is going to get generally hotter and noisier in use. If reducing noise is the main goal, setting a power limit should accomplish this. Otherwise you can try a global frame rate cap which is more functional (keep it at or below display refresh rate) but more variable in load depending on game/settings.

That's actually an oversight of me, thanks for pointing this out.

 

My goal is not exactly to reduce noise, it was purely "symptoms".

 

Utilization wouldn't be affected by the above though but this part has already been explained (for the 4070 that is, 1070 remains a mystery)

 

Thanks!

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Game settings would matter too. Some games will see a different GPU and bump up graphics settings to *recommended for that model" as a result, although you'd typically have a popup asking you for what to do.

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1 hour ago, Mayoo said:

 

Use MSI Afterburner and edit the volt/frequency curve to reach 2700Mhz at 0.95v and flat thereafter. Add 1000Mhz to memory clock.

 

Enjoy your cooler running 4070S at no performance cost.

 

If you want to cap framerate to further reduce noise or power draw, set it within the game's settings. The game engine's native framelimiter usually results in best input response and least potential of stutters or bad frame times.

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