Define R6 with 8700k and a Titan V

[Kalm_Traveler]

I'm pretty set on making a build in this case, and am planning on making it a "max gaming performance" setup so 8700k cpu and a Titan V. 

 

With those two water cooled in the Define R6, would a single 420mm slim radiator in the top be enough cooling? 

 

I'd like to keep the front 140mm intake fans if possible to keep positive pressure inside, but initially was thinking to use a thin 360 up top and a thick 280 on the front, with a 120 or 140 on the floor to help with intake pressure. 

[.Apex.]

5 minutes ago, Kalm_Traveler1 said:

I'm pretty set on making a build in this case, and am planning on making it a "max gaming performance" setup so 8700k cpu and a Titan V. 

 

With those two water cooled in the Define R6, would a single 420mm slim radiator in the top be enough cooling? 

 

I'd like to keep the front 140mm intake fans if possible to keep positive pressure inside, but initially was thinking to use a thin 360 up top and a thick 280 on the front, with a 120 or 140 on the floor to help with intake pressure. 

you sure you wanna get the Titan V? new GPU's are probably right around the corner, and they'll be alot cheaper and probably faster in gaming.

[DistantExplorer]

yeah a 420mm rad should be fine. 

 

but like syn, why a titan V? Especially when we could be getting new GPUs soon. If you need it now though, that's fine I guess. 

[Kalm_Traveler]

3 minutes ago, syn2112 said:

you sure you wanna get the Titan V? new GPU's are probably right around the corner, and they'll be alot cheaper and probably faster in gaming.

Already have 2 of them, been trying to mod them to get NVLink working in my main rig but I think part of the problem is within the actual GPU die, which isn't something that can be modified so I was thinking to build a mainstream gaming-only rig with one. 

 

Probably swap them out with some Titan Xp's until the next gen enthusiast platform is out because the x299 chips were not a clear or big upgrade over my 6900k for gaming performance, and it is plenty adequate at 4.5 gHz for everything else I do. 

[Agonizel]

16 minutes ago, Kalm_Traveler1 said:

420mm slim radiator in the top be enough cooling?

If you really wanna keep the front clear and feel 420 (blaze it) is not enough, you can add a 140mm radiator at the back instead and pair it with the top 420mm. That should do it.

As for the Titan V, mh. 1180 FE are to come out in mid June and aftermarket in august/september, so do what you want with that info

[DistantExplorer]

Have you tried software to get them to work together? I know their is a way floating around to SLI low end cards together, would that work with something like the Titan V?

[Kalm_Traveler]

2 minutes ago, DistantExplorer said:

yeah a 420mm rad should be fine. 

 

but like syn, why a titan V? Especially when we could be getting new GPUs soon. If you need it now though, that's fine I guess. 

Thanks! 

 

I already have 2 of them, that's why. That, and i don't think anything will match it's performance until at least the next Ti model Geforce. 

 

The 1080Ti is about as far ahead of the 980Ti as the Titan V is to the 1080Ti as far as I've seen, so an 1180 or whatever they call the launch card likely won't even be close to equal to the Titan V. 

[.Apex.]

4 minutes ago, DistantExplorer said:

yeah a 420mm rad should be fine. 

 

but like syn, why a titan V? Especially when we could be getting new GPUs soon. If you need it now though, that's fine I guess. 

ooooh someone called me Syn, i like that thank you.  

[DistantExplorer]

On 5/26/2018 at 12:12 PM, Kalm_Traveler1 said:

Thanks! 

 

I already have 2 of them, that's why. That, and i don't think anything will match it's performance until at least the next Ti model Geforce. 

 

The 1080Ti is about as far ahead of the 980Ti as the Titan V is to the 1080Ti as far as I've seen, so an 1180 or whatever they call the launch card likely won't even be close to equal to the Titan V. 

Understandable then.

 

On 5/26/2018 at 12:13 PM, syn2112 said:

ooooh someone called me Syn, i like that thank you.  

lmao

[Kalm_Traveler]

2 minutes ago, DistantExplorer said:

Have you tried software to get them to work together? I know their is a way floating around to SLI low end cards together, would that work with something like the Titan V?

I found something called DifferentSLI but it looks like it hasn't been updated in ages. I'm pretty sure that the NVLink not being enabled is strictly software based but to get signed drivers to enable it would mean modding the cards to show up as Quadro GV100 and so far I haven't been able to do that. 

 

I got a Quadro bios and tried to flash it with an external chip flasher but all that seemed to happen was the board ID getting messed up. 

[DistantExplorer]

1 minute ago, Kalm_Traveler1 said:

I found something called DifferentSLI but it looks like it hasn't been updated in ages. I'm pretty sure that the NVLink not being enabled is strictly software based but to get signed drivers to enable it would mean modding the cards to show up as Quadro GV100 and so far I haven't been able to do that. 

 

I got a Quadro bios and tried to flash it with an external chip flasher but all that seemed to happen was the board ID getting messed up. 

Ahh ok. 

[Dschijn]

Yes, it is enough! But don't expect a super quiet and cool system at the same time. You have to cut back on either one of these two.

[MaratM]

just use 2 360 rads, you will be fine, most rad manufactures provide exact dimentions of their rads, so just measure the case and see if they fit

I use 2 HWlabs Black ice nemesis GTS (slim line) with a hot xeonx5680 (OC 4,2) and GTX 980ti (also very hot card) and my fans are spinning at 900-1000 rpm at load and around 450RPM at idle. the fluid temp does not go above 42C (CPU is around 70C and GPU is around 55C)

[Princess Luna]

Even the i7 8700K is not good enough CPU for a 100% balanced build with a TITAN V have that in mind... while you'll be fine for the majority of the time there still a few cases where you'll bottleneck the monstrous GPU the V is.

 

I used my brother's V for a little while for fun on my i7 8700 locked at 4.4ghz with gigabyte's flex override... playing games on 2560x1080p with every little thing set on maximum, every thing.

 

AC Origins fully max out is bloody beautiful by every means but it was the one game that depending the area of Alexandria the NPC's are so damn abundant along side all the other details it is incredible taxing on the CPU, my i7 8700 can reach up to 90% of usage on specific areas and will bottleneck the TITAN V... the fps still is around 60~ so gameplay remains smooth but it's amazing to see it happen.

[Kalm_Traveler]

I lost my willpower after seeing that 8086k announcement and ordered literally everything except a new SSD (going to reuse a 1tb nvme 960 Pro for now), and the CPU since it doesn't launch until Friday. 

 

Define R6 blackout TG case

Asus Maximus X Formula

32gb (16gb x2) 3200mhz CL14 Trident Z RAM

Corsair HX750 PSU

Alphacool 420mm X flow radiator 

8x Noctua 2000rpm 140mm PWM industrial fans (3 rad, 2 front, 2 bottom, 1 rear) 

EK pump/res and cpu block, fittings

PrimoChill soft tubing

Vertical graphics card riser for existing Titan V

Misc fittings for loop, drain, fill port

Rockit copper LGA1151 IHS

Rockit LGA1151 delid / relid tool

Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut LM

 

And some copper polishing stuff to make sure the new IHS is as flat as possible. 

 

Now just waiting for the parts to show up, and Friday to order an 8086k

 

If that 420mm radiator is not enough I guess an additional 280mm could be added, just want to keep positive pressure if at all possible. 

[Jay Deah]

Sounds like you’ll be fine.

 

i personally run a 5ghz OC delidded 8700k and 1080ti all cooked by a single 360 rad (EK MLC Phoenix AIO) and it cools it all absolutely fine. I’m sure your 420 setup will be more than enough.

 

just remember you’ll need to run the case in the ‘alternate layout’ to fit the rad in andyoull also need to lose the dvd drive bay

[Kalm_Traveler]

2 hours ago, Jay Deah said:

Sounds like you’ll be fine.

 

i personally run a 5ghz OC delidded 8700k and 1080ti all cooked by a single 360 rad (EK MLC Phoenix AIO) and it cools it all absolutely fine. I’m sure your 420 setup will be more than enough.

 

just remember you’ll need to run the case in the ‘alternate layout’ to fit the rad in andyoull also need to lose the dvd drive bay

thanks! What cpu and gpu temps do you see with your 8700k and 1080 Ti on that 360mm?

[Jay Deah]

Field	Value
Sensor Properties	
Sensor Type	Nuvoton NCT6793D  (ISA A00h)
GPU Sensor Type	Diode  (NV-Diode)
Motherboard Name	Asus Maximus IX/X Code / Formula / Hero
Chassis Intrusion Detected	No
	
Temperatures	
Motherboard	42 °C  (108 °F)
CPU	56 °C  (133 °F)
CPU Package	62 °C  (144 °F)
CPU IA Cores	62 °C  (144 °F)
CPU GT Cores	55 °C  (131 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1	61 °C  (142 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2	60 °C  (140 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3	61 °C  (142 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4	60 °C  (140 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #5	60 °C  (140 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #6	59 °C  (138 °F)
PCH	60 °C  (140 °F)
Power Supply #1	60 °C  (140 °F)
Power Supply #2	48 °C  (119 °F)
VRM	70 °C  (158 °F)
GPU Diode	53 °C  (127 °F)
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB	66 °C  (151 °F)
Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB	46 °C  (115 °F)
WDC WD3003FZEX-00Z4SA0 (WD-WMC1F1626179)	51 °C  (124 °F)
	
Cooling Fans	
CPU	1403 RPM
Chassis #1	575 RPM
Chassis #2	494 RPM
Power Supply	552 RPM
Water Pump	2758 RPM
GPU	0 RPM  (0%)
	
Voltage Values	
CPU Core	1.360 V
+3.3 V	3.313 V
+5 V	5.047 V
+12 V	12.031 V
+3.3 V Standby	3.376 V
VBAT Battery	3.216 V
CPU PLL	1.265 V
VCCIO	1.344 V
VCCMP	1.322 V
VCCSA	1.336 V
VCC Sustain	1.025 V
PCH Core	1.016 V
DIMM	1.328 V
Power Supply	230.000 V
GPU Core	0.981 V
	
Current Values	
CPU	52.00 A
+3.3 V	0.94 A
+5 V	4.50 A
+12 V	31.50 A
	
Power Values	
CPU	70.72 W
CPU Package	3.80 W
+3.3 V	3.11 W
+5 V	22.71 W
+12 V	378.98 W
DIMM	3.63 W
Power Supply	404.80 W
GPU TDP%	97%

For context, this is with nicehash miner doing mining on CPU+GPU. not quite as heavy on the CPU as other workloads, but gives you a good example of what i see during gaming... <60deg on both

 

as you can see this also has a very relaxed fan profile. only 1500rpm at this level.

[Kalm_Traveler]

Very nice, those are not bad at all! Thanks! 

[Froody129]

Wouldn't SLI XP perform better while being cheaper?

[Kalm_Traveler]

29 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

Wouldn't SLI XP perform better while being cheaper?

Starting from scratch, in games that have good SLI support, definitely. 

 

I already have 2x Titan V so it isn't costing me anything, and I'm selling one of them + the NVLink bridges, moving the other one into this smaller new build, and with the money from selling parts paid for everything for the new rig, as well as 2 1080Ti FE. 

 

The 1080Ti's are to replace two Titan Xp that I'm pulling from a mining rig to put in my main system in place of these Titan V's which are in there at the moment. 

[AdamTheSlave]

On 6/7/2018 at 2:21 AM, Jay Deah said:

Field	Value
Sensor Properties	
Sensor Type	Nuvoton NCT6793D  (ISA A00h)
GPU Sensor Type	Diode  (NV-Diode)
Motherboard Name	Asus Maximus IX/X Code / Formula / Hero
Chassis Intrusion Detected	No
	
Temperatures	
Motherboard	42 °C  (108 °F)
CPU	56 °C  (133 °F)
CPU Package	62 °C  (144 °F)
CPU IA Cores	62 °C  (144 °F)
CPU GT Cores	55 °C  (131 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1	61 °C  (142 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2	60 °C  (140 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3	61 °C  (142 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4	60 °C  (140 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #5	60 °C  (140 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #6	59 °C  (138 °F)
PCH	60 °C  (140 °F)
Power Supply #1	60 °C  (140 °F)
Power Supply #2	48 °C  (119 °F)
VRM	70 °C  (158 °F)
GPU Diode	53 °C  (127 °F)
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB	66 °C  (151 °F)
Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB	46 °C  (115 °F)
WDC WD3003FZEX-00Z4SA0 (WD-WMC1F1626179)	51 °C  (124 °F)
	
Cooling Fans	
CPU	1403 RPM
Chassis #1	575 RPM
Chassis #2	494 RPM
Power Supply	552 RPM
Water Pump	2758 RPM
GPU	0 RPM  (0%)
	
Voltage Values	
CPU Core	1.360 V
+3.3 V	3.313 V
+5 V	5.047 V
+12 V	12.031 V
+3.3 V Standby	3.376 V
VBAT Battery	3.216 V
CPU PLL	1.265 V
VCCIO	1.344 V
VCCMP	1.322 V
VCCSA	1.336 V
VCC Sustain	1.025 V
PCH Core	1.016 V
DIMM	1.328 V
Power Supply	230.000 V
GPU Core	0.981 V
	
Current Values	
CPU	52.00 A
+3.3 V	0.94 A
+5 V	4.50 A
+12 V	31.50 A
	
Power Values	
CPU	70.72 W
CPU Package	3.80 W
+3.3 V	3.11 W
+5 V	22.71 W
+12 V	378.98 W
DIMM	3.63 W
Power Supply	404.80 W
GPU TDP%	97%

For context, this is with nicehash miner doing mining on CPU+GPU. not quite as heavy on the CPU as other workloads, but gives you a good example of what i see during gaming... <60deg on both

 

as you can see this also has a very relaxed fan profile. only 1500rpm at this level.

Wow, I need to delid mine. Mine runs around 20c higher under prime95 testing. Might be a good project for this weekend. I still have some thermal grizzly gallium and the rockit 88.

[Jay Deah]

I was shocked at just how much of a difference the delid made. Before delidding the fans would kick in high all the time. Now they barely kick in!

 

it was also super easy!

[Tellos]

420mm rad wont do much thermal transfer limit on the TIM will be reached before that.

[Kalm_Traveler]

1 hour ago, Tellos said:

420mm rad wont do much thermal transfer limit on the TIM will be reached before that.

Did you mean that as 2 separate sentences? IE '420mm rad won't do much. Thermal transfer limit on the TIM will be reached before that.' ?

 

not understanding what you meant. Are you trying to say that a 420mm radiator is not enough radiator? or that the liquid metal between the die and IHS will be the main determining factor of CPU temps in this setup?