8600k (oc'ed) or 8700

[Alissa]

to begin with, im aware the 8700 will have a lower usage while gaming which will help multitasking

But i believe the 8600k oc'ed to 5ghz may be better for gaming

Please keep in mind i do a lot of things while gaming so 6 more threads? or a higher clocked speed.

i can use a b360 mobo with a 8700 but z370 with the 8600k

I will be 3d modeling in audodesk inventor, maya and others

[Skiiwee29]

if you multi task  -  Threads >speed.. if only gaming Speed > Threads 

[r2724r16]

Ask yourself: Is multitasking more important, or is gaming more important.

 

An 8600K OCD to 5GHZ will perform better than an i7 8700 in games, and in multi threaded applications like video editing, an i7 8700 will perform better.

[Alissa]

What will last me longer?
 

[Alissa]

Plus, i've never oc'ed would rather stay away from it for now.

 

[Alissa]

the 8700 also has more cache but uses less electricity

[LordofSavages]

2 minutes ago, Alissa said:

the 8700 also has more cache but uses less electricity

I doubt that makes a difference in real life, the electricity usage probably won't be much different either

7 minutes ago, Alissa said:

Plus, i've never oc'ed would rather stay away from it for now.

 

It's pretty easy nowadays

 

8 minutes ago, Alissa said:

What will last me longer?
 

The 8700 probably will, but 6 cores on the 8600k and the overclocking potential should be more than enough for another 4 years unless you want the be on the bleeding edge

 

[.Apex.]

3 minutes ago, Alissa said:

the 8700 also has more cache but uses less electricity

well, to narrow this down, what resolution are you going to play at? what video card? 5ghz won't make a difference unless you want really high framerate on 1080p.

[Alissa]

1080 144hz, gtx 1070.

[Alissa]

i'm not just gaming, there will be backround programs. music, but some times background 3d modeling

 

[Alissa]

rendering*
 

[.Apex.]

Just now, Alissa said:

i'm not just gaming, there will be backround programs. music, but some times background 3d modeling

 

then i think you should go with the 8700, 144hz is easy to achieve on both CPU's, but i think the 8700 will benefit you greatly with 3D rendering.

just don't forget to get Dual Channel Ram.

[Alissa]

8700 also has a lower tdp allowing easier cooling, and more silent operation

[Alissa]

Just now, syn2112 said:

then i think you should go with the 8700, 144hz is easy to achieve on both CPU's, but i think the 8700 will benefit you greatly with 3D rendering.

just don't forget to get Dual Channel Ram.

i highly agree thank you it was very informative.

 

[.Apex.]

Just now, Alissa said:

i highly agree thank you it was very informative.

 

you're welcome

[LordofSavages]

6 minutes ago, Alissa said:

1080 144hz, gtx 1070.

The 8600k will achieve ever so slightly higher FPS if that matters

 

5 minutes ago, Alissa said:

i'm not just gaming, there will be backround programs. music, but some times background 3d modeling

 

I'm not sure why you would do 3d rendering in the background while gaming, but for other things, even the 8600k will do. However, the 8700 will be faster for dedicated 3d rendering

 

2 minutes ago, Alissa said:

8700 also has a lower tdp allowing easier cooling, and more silent operation

The 8700 comes with a stock cooler which will work fine, if you do get the 8600k, you'll have to grab your own cooler anyway which will likely be quieter

[Alissa]

i plan to get the nh-u14s

[Alissa]

b360 mobo's are cheaper.

[.Apex.]

20 minutes ago, YaqinHasan said:

The 8600k will achieve ever so slightly higher FPS if that matters

with a GTX 1070 there won't be much difference in FPS on both CPU's, you'll be likely limited by your GPU instead of CPU.
but both CPU's can achieve above 144 FPS if you lower your graphics settings for sure, it won't matter if 5ghz gets you 200 and the i7 8700 gets you 180 (FOR EXAMPLE), monitor is 144hz so anything above that is meaningless.

people should understand that if you have a GTX 1050TI and you get 50 FPS on an i3, it doesn't mean if you get an i7 youll get higher FPS, in that scenario the limit (bottleneck) is the GPU.

[Edwardk326]

4 hours ago, Alissa said:

to begin with, im aware the 8700 will have a lower usage while gaming which will help multitasking

But i believe the 8600k oc'ed to 5ghz may be better for gaming

Please keep in mind i do a lot of things while gaming so 6 more threads? or a higher clocked speed.

i can use a b360 mobo with a 8700 but z370 with the 8600k

I will be 3d modeling in audodesk inventor, maya and others

If you haven't already purchased your CPU and motherboard I would highly recommend a Ryzen 5 2600 with an X470 motherboard it's got 6 cores 12 threads it is overclockable (if in future you'd like to dabble in overclocking) essentially you're getting an i7-8700k for $135 less, thanks to AMD.

 

 

If you have already bought your motherboard (which I assume is a B360 or a Z370) then I would recommend going for the 8700 since you mentioned that you'd be 3D modelling which would benefit from having more cores with hyperthreading.

 

5 hours ago, Skiiwee29 said:

if you multi task  -  Threads >speed.. if only gaming Speed > Threads 

As Skiiwee29 said: for multitasking Threads > Speed, for gaming Speed > Threads

[LordofSavages]

16 hours ago, syn2112 said:

with a GTX 1070 there won't be much difference in FPS on both CPU's, you'll be likely limited by your GPU instead of CPU.
but both CPU's can achieve above 144 FPS if you lower your graphics settings for sure, it won't matter if 5ghz gets you 200 and the i7 8700 gets you 180 (FOR EXAMPLE), monitor is 144hz so anything above that is meaningless.

people should understand that if you have a GTX 1050TI and you get 50 FPS on an i3, it doesn't mean if you get an i7 youll get higher FPS, in that scenario the limit (bottleneck) is the GPU.

If you're running at 1080p and your goal is high refresh rate. The higher clocked i5 will achieve higher framerates. There's no objective proof but subjectively, higher framerates (even above the refresh rate) and lower frametimes are noticeable in certain games to some. I highly doubt that the 1070 will ever be the bottleneck at 1080p for a while

[DarkSmith2]

14 hours ago, Edwardk326 said:

If you haven't already purchased your CPU and motherboard I would highly recommend a Ryzen 5 2600 with an X470 motherboard it's got 6 cores 12 threads it is overclockable (if in future you'd like to dabble in overclocking) essentially you're getting an i7-8700k for $135 less, thanks to AMD.

r5 2600 is slower while overclocked than a 8700 at stock, putting the power bill up for "close to" the same performance while saving some money when initially buying it. Why do you recommend it?

 

3 hours ago, YaqinHasan said:

3 hours ago, YaqinHasan said:

I highly doubt that the 1070 will ever be the bottleneck at 1080p for a while

 

Even a 1080Ti is in some cases. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[DarkSmith2]

20 hours ago, Alissa said:

to begin with, im aware the 8700 will have a lower usage while gaming which will help multitasking

But i believe the 8600k oc'ed to 5ghz may be better for gaming

Please keep in mind i do a lot of things while gaming so 6 more threads? or a higher clocked speed.

i can use a b360 mobo with a 8700 but z370 with the 8600k

I will be 3d modeling in audodesk inventor, maya and others

Just pay a little more for a good board and a 8700k, call it a day and be pleased for the next 5-7years.

[Alissa]

Not an option i don't how much money to splash, and may have to down scale my entire build.

[Alissa]

Please keep in mind that i'm 13 would prefer to to dabble in the bios to overclock.