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8600k (oc'ed) or 8700

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i7 8700 will not bottleneck a 1070 in fact a i7 8700 does not bottleneck even a 1080 Ti still, the i5 8600k at 5ghz will hardly if at all give more "gaming performance" as the i7 is perfectly capable of maxing out your GPU and you mentioned something about rendering and 3d modeling those things will benefit a bit more from the Hyper-Threading than the extra 500mhz frequency.

 

If you want to overclock get the i7 8700K the i5 8600K in my opinion is not worth it even for a gaming specific rig when the i7 8700 already has such a strong clock boost of 4.3ghz ~4.4ghz if you mess around and costs the same if not cheaper when we count in for the cheaper motherboard and cooling.

i7 8700 will not bottleneck a 1070 in fact a i7 8700 does not bottleneck even a 1080 Ti still, the i5 8600k at 5ghz will hardly if at all give more "gaming performance" as the i7 is perfectly capable of maxing out your GPU and you mentioned something about rendering and 3d modeling those things will benefit a bit more from the Hyper-Threading than the extra 500mhz frequency.

 

If you want to overclock get the i7 8700K the i5 8600K in my opinion is not worth it even for a gaming specific rig when the i7 8700 already has such a strong clock boost of 4.3ghz ~4.4ghz if you mess around and costs the same if not cheaper when we count in for the cheaper motherboard and cooling.

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i'm aware neither of those cpu would bottleneck a 1080ti, if they did it would i very small difference.

Thanking for posting, your infomation will not go unnoticed, i will get a i7 8700.

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1 minute ago, Alissa said:

The 8700k is 35 British pounds more making it VERY appealing, would i have to get a beefer mobo or cooler to really get the most of it?

Excel file i made -

https://1drv.ms/x/s!AiFg4nxee4cMafV7QadIVhmdym8

 

To get really really really the most out of it, yea, but more important would be delidding,

 

with a mild Overclock depending on the lottery if you either get a good overclocker or not, probably no. 

Mine would had been perfectly fine without delidding on air at 5GHz.

 

Running it at stock will work regardless, unless you are planning to use a really really bad cooler. 

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i will not be delidding or overclocking....... i've said this already.

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On 5/21/2018 at 12:44 PM, DarkSmith2 said:

Even a 1080Ti is in some cases. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What game is bottlenecked by a 1080ti in 1080p? I mean, obviously 1080 means it was meant for 1080p *sarcasm*

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5 hours ago, YaqinHasan said:

What game is bottlenecked by a 1080ti in 1080p? I mean, obviously 1080 means it was meant for 1080p *sarcasm*

well actually every game that has a higher frame rate while using a lower resolution. (close to every game that excists depending on settings)

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On 2018-05-20 at 9:33 AM, Alissa said:

What will last me longer?
 

8700

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8700 is the winner to me, easily, specially if you plan on keeping it for a long time, like over 5 years, the 12 threads will help later and the small difference you get with the OC won't be as huge as the difference the extra thread can/could be in 5 or 10 years 

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Exemple : 



You can see that's it's not a big difference in 1080p and in 4K the 12 threads wins most of the time, and as time goes, expect higher resolution to become mnore and more cheap and so more affordable.. You me and everyone else will soon or later run on 4K as a standard

I think picking a 8600k is a mistake and the best choice is 8700

My 2 cents :) 

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On 5/20/2018 at 6:28 AM, Alissa said:

to begin with, im aware the 8700 will have a lower usage while gaming which will help multitasking

But i believe the 8600k oc'ed to 5ghz may be better for gaming

Please keep in mind i do a lot of things while gaming so 6 more threads? or a higher clocked speed.

i can use a b360 mobo with a 8700 but z370 with the 8600k

I will be 3d modeling in audodesk inventor, maya and others ;)

I had the same choice, and I went for the 8700 non k. In gaming the 8700 is equal to or better than the 8600k at 5ghz in most games from the last 3 years, and it will only be better going forward. Also the 8700 is better for anything not gaming. In other words, the 8700 is just a straight up better CPU unless you really like Wii U emulators. 

 

edit: Obligatory 2700x is a better value. However yeah the 8700 is a great chip too. 


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