New PC Build - First since 2013

[Acans]

Hi all,

 

I'm starting to plan my next PC build, however I'm wondering which direction to go with the processor.

 

I'm thinking between either the mainstream i7-8700K or perhaps looking at something a little higher, like the 8 core or perhaps the 10 core i7-7820X / i9-7900X.

 

It'll be my everything PC, lots of chrome tabs, usually some form of video (YouTube/VLC), Gaming with the option to Stream to Twitch with no issues, and starting Post Production in Adobe PP. Currently using Sony Vegas but I'll be doing a Bachelor of Film and the place uses Adobe PP. I'll be planning on turning the current PC into a render slave, so being able to scrub and edit the timeline without lag is preferred over super render throughput.

 

I currently use 4 monitors, 3x24 inch and 1x27 inch. None are 4K but I may look into getting a 4K monitor down the track, or at least something with 10 bit colour.

 

I won't mind spending that bit extra if the price to performance lines up, as I want this to last me at least another 3-5 years as my current PC just past it's 5th Birthday.

 

Looking forward to hearing your feedback in regards to the options :).

[GrockleTD]

uh.... budget?

[GrockleTD]

2 hours ago, Acans said:

Hi all,

 

I'm starting to plan my next PC build, however I'm wondering which direction to go with the processor.

 

I'm thinking between either the mainstream i7-8700K or perhaps looking at something a little higher, like the 8 core or perhaps the 10 core i7-7820X / i9-7900X.

 

It'll be my everything PC, lots of chrome tabs, usually some form of video (YouTube/VLC), Gaming with the option to Stream to Twitch with no issues, and starting Post Production in Adobe PP. Currently using Sony Vegas but I'll be doing a Bachelor of Film and the place uses Adobe PP. I'll be planning on turning the current PC into a render slave, so being able to scrub and edit the timeline without lag is preferred over super render throughput.

 

I currently use 4 monitors, 3x24 inch and 1x27 inch. None are 4K but I may look into getting a 4K monitor down the track, or at least something with 10 bit colour.

 

I won't mind spending that bit extra if the price to performance lines up, as I want this to last me at least another 3-5 years as my current PC just past it's 5th Birthday.

 

Looking forward to hearing your feedback in regards to the options :).

this is probably too expensive/overkill. it can definitely be made cheaper. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sPwW3b

[Taswell]

well if your gonna use your old computer as a render slave then just get the 8700k. You wont need the extra cores (unless your really impatient about your renders/have more than one at a time) since you have another computer doing the rendering and it could also be your streaming computer for the small price of a capture card. Intel Price to performance Ratio falls off dramatically the higher you go, I think anything above the 8700K is pretty impractical (price/performance) unless you just want bragging rights or can seriously justify buying one cause your work load is that crazy.

[Starelementpoke]

20 minutes ago, Acans said:

Hi all,

 

I'm starting to plan my next PC build, however I'm wondering which direction to go with the processor.

 

I'm thinking between either the mainstream i7-8700K or perhaps looking at something a little higher, like the 8 core or perhaps the 10 core i7-7820X / i9-7900X.

 

It'll be my everything PC, lots of chrome tabs, usually some form of video (YouTube/VLC), Gaming with the option to Stream to Twitch with no issues, and starting Post Production in Adobe PP. Currently using Sony Vegas but I'll be doing a Bachelor of Film and the place uses Adobe PP. I'll be planning on turning the current PC into a render slave, so being able to scrub and edit the timeline without lag is preferred over super render throughput.

 

I currently use 4 monitors, 3x24 inch and 1x27 inch. None are 4K but I may look into getting a 4K monitor down the track, or at least something with 10 bit colour.

 

I won't mind spending that bit extra if the price to performance lines up, as I want this to last me at least another 3-5 years as my current PC just past it's 5th Birthday.

 

Looking forward to hearing your feedback in regards to the options :).

It depends on your budget.

[Princess Luna]

If you're patient enough I'd strongly suggest waiting until September when Intel is releasing the Z390 Chipset motherboards for the  i7 8790k 8c/16t Coffee Lake CPU this way you'll have HEDT power of an i9 on the mainstream platform.

 

My brother actually is not all that happy with the i9 7900x due to its lower single thread performance and Mesh being so inferior to Ring and is strongly considering changing it since he has no use for the extra PCI-e Lanes and 64gb of RAM is enough.

[Acans]

For those asking about budget, 3k-5k. Since living in Australia I get to claim it on Tax. Not the whole amount upfront, but large % of it over 3 years.

 

If price to performance is really bad past the 8700K, than I'll probably sit for that. Worst case scenario if I need to upgrade at a later date, I can turn the 8700K build to the render/streaming slave, and than the current PC into my server. My current server is a 2nd gen i7 that holds all my large 4TB HDD's and any applications/vm's that I like running 24/7. It's almost 7 years old so god knows how much longer I have it for.

[GrockleTD]

3-5k usd or australian d?

2 hours ago, Acans said:

For those asking about budget, 3k-5k. Since living in Australia I get to claim it on Tax. Not the whole amount upfront, but large % of it over 3 years.

 

If price to performance is really bad past the 8700K, than I'll probably sit for that. Worst case scenario if I need to upgrade at a later date, I can turn the 8700K build to the render/streaming slave, and than the current PC into my server. My current server is a 2nd gen i7 that holds all my large 4TB HDD's and any applications/vm's that I like running 24/7. It's almost 7 years old so god knows how much longer I have it for.

 

[Acans]

1 minute ago, Grockle88 said:

3-5k usd or australian d?

 

AUD.

[GrockleTD]

2 hours ago, Acans said:

AUD.

what did you think of my pc part picker list?

[Acans]

2 minutes ago, Grockle88 said:

what did you think of my pc part picker list?

Falls just under my 5K mark when converted to AUD, but I wanna give Threadripper a pass for the moment.

 

Also you read my mind about what case/psu maker I was after. Trying to figure out if I want Trident RGB or Vengeance RGB, since I've already got many Corsair RGB peripherals.

[GrockleTD]

2 hours ago, Acans said:

Falls just under my 5K mark when converted to AUD, but I wanna give Threadripper a pass for the moment.

 

Also you read my mind about what case/psu maker I was after. Trying to figure out if I want Trident RGB or Vengeance RGB, since I've already got many Corsair RGB peripherals.

i wan't for that cuz i  personally also lovecorsair, and that is an amazing case looks wise.

[Jtalk4456]

2 hours ago, Acans said:

I'm thinking between either the mainstream i7-8700K or perhaps looking at something a little higher, like the 8 core or perhaps the 10 core i7-7820X / i9-7900X.

I'm not going to discount the performance argument in the mainstream platforms for amd vs intel, very close right now, but in the extreme space, price/performance is AMD all the way. Threadripper has a much better value than i9's

2 hours ago, Grockle88 said:

this is probably too expensive/overkill. it can definitely be made cheaper. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sPwW3b

I like it but the mobo can be done cheaper

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wMjWGX/asus-prime-x399-a-eatx-tr4-motherboard-prime-x399-a

That'll save $30 for you, but i like the rest, even if it is overkill, it's very proportional, no obvious bottlenecks

2 hours ago, ITheSpazI said:

well if your gonna use your old computer as a render slave then just get the 8700k. You wont need the extra cores (unless your really impatient about your renders/have more than one at a time) since you have another computer doing the rendering and it could also be your streaming computer for the small price of a capture card. Intel Price to performance Ratio falls off dramatically the higher you go, I think anything above the 8700K is pretty impractical (price/performance) unless you just want bragging rights or can seriously justify buying one cause your work load is that crazy.

I would definitely use the old computer like this to split up the workload. Lessening the workload will also help prolong the life of the new PC

[brob]

If the old system will be used to offload rendering and other tasks, then an i7-8700K or R7 2700X strike me as optimal choices.

 

The Crystal 570X RGB case has clear side panels. I think this makes for a difficult build as there is nowhere to really hide. 

 

Intel Suggestions:

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($486.00 @ PLE Computers) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($135.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($279.00 @ Storm Computers) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($299.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($168.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($73.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card  ($1349.00 @ IJK) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 460X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($175.00 @ Umart) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit  ($145.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $3258.00
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-05 08:34 AEST+1000

 

AMD Alternative:

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($464.00 @ Shopping Express) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($135.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($329.00 @ Umart) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($299.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($168.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($73.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card  ($1349.00 @ IJK) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 460X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($175.00 @ Umart) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit  ($145.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $3286.00
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-05 08:38 AEST+1000

 

[Acans]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($485.00 @ AX86 Gaming Systems) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($217.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($328.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($659.00 @ Scorptec) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($255.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($255.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($201.00 @ Umart) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($1319.00 @ Umart) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 570X RGB White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($228.00 @ Umart) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx White 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($189.00 @ Umart) 
Case Fan: Corsair - LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.2 CFM  120mm Fans  ($119.07 @ AX86 Gaming Systems) 
Total: $4255.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-14 17:54 AEST+1000

 

I've ended up locking in the above. Ty for those for helping decide between the 8700K or an higher CPU

[brob]

The case has a psu shroud, why pay extra for a white psu that will not be visible?

[Acans]

The case and the PSU we're changed to black in the end, I seen your comment but forgot to reply after realizing that lol.

 

I'll post a picture once it's assembled :).