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New 144hz monitor with 1ms response has issues

Jerochy
By Jerochy
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4 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Uh, response time is not something you can set...that's a property of the monitor....

That's like saying you set your monitor to IPS.

Most monitors have their natural response times accelerated by RTC technologies (like FRC), which is adjustable.

 

Excessive FRC will cause inverse ghosting, I would advise turning it down if you are having issues. The highest FRC settings are not designed to actually be used, they're only there so they can produce "fast" response times (like "1 ms") to put on the box.

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Hey guys,

So I just picked up an HP omen 24.5" 1080p 144hz 1ms response monitor yesterday from bestbuy for 190. I plugged it all in via displayport, set my refresh on windows to 144hz and I could see immediately it was running at 144hz. I messed around with some color settings and set the response time to 1ms and launched rust. It looks really really bad when moving (might be called ghosting?). I'm a monitor novice so I'm not sure what this is called or how I can fix it. Also, my response time is around 14 to 15. On my older monitor, I'd be getting around 10 ms so I'm not sure why this is much worse.

 

If anyone could help me at all, I'd appreciate it.

 

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Mind posting a picture?

also turn v-sync on

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Pics of videos. Does it looks choppy or things have trails?

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Just now, Himommies said:

Mind posting a picture?

 

Just now, BuckGup said:

Pics of videos. Does it looks choppy or things have trails?

Yeah give me a couple min, I recorded footage with fraps and it didn't show in the video (duh)

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Uh, response time is not something you can set...that's a property of the monitor....

That's like saying you set your monitor to IPS.

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2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Uh, response time is not something you can set...that's a property of the monitor....

That's like saying you set your monitor to IPS.

When I go to settings-> image control -> response time, it gives me options 1-5 so I'm not sure what else that would be besides settings your response time from 1ms to 5ms

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4 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Uh, response time is not something you can set...that's a property of the monitor....

That's like saying you set your monitor to IPS.

Most monitors have their natural response times accelerated by RTC technologies (like FRC), which is adjustable.

 

Excessive FRC will cause inverse ghosting, I would advise turning it down if you are having issues. The highest FRC settings are not designed to actually be used, they're only there so they can produce "fast" response times (like "1 ms") to put on the box.

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6 minutes ago, Himommies said:

Mind posting a picture?

 

6 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Pics of videos. Does it looks choppy or things have trails?

This looks really bad but it's all I got. Basically, it just looks like the contrast goes really high for some reason while moving and it looks like it might be "ghosting"
 

 

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1 minute ago, Jerochy said:

When I go to settings-> image control -> response time, it gives me options 1-5 so I'm not sure what else that would be besides settings your response time from 1ms to 5ms

In the monitor settings??

That's weird.

The g2g response time isn't variable, they must be artificially increasing it with that setting for some dumb reason, like why would anyone ever want to increase that.

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2 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

Most monitors have their natural response times accelerated by RTC technologies (like FRC), which is adjustable.

 

Excessive FRC will cause inverse ghosting, I would advise turning it down if you are having issues. The highest FRC settings are not designed to actually be used, they're only there so they can produce "fast" response times (like "1 ms") to put on the box.

Ah I see. How is it then that my old monitor is/was able to pull of around 10ms response times in rust with it being 5ms and this monitor is getting like 15ms and it's rated at 1ms? I'm very disappointed in this crap if that's the case.

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16 minutes ago, Enderman said:

In the monitor settings??

That's weird.

The g2g response time isn't variable, they must be artificially increasing it with that setting for some dumb reason, like why would anyone ever want to increase that.

does this mean with this monitor and my current settings in rust, I can expect around 14ms response? Because my old monitor was pulling around 10 and I'm just going to take this back if that's the case. 

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22 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

Most monitors have their natural response times accelerated by RTC technologies (like FRC), which is adjustable.

 

Excessive FRC will cause inverse ghosting, I would advise turning it down if you are having issues. The highest FRC settings are not designed to actually be used, they're only there so they can produce "fast" response times (like "1 ms") to put on the box.

I had the same issue with my 240 hz monitor. It had really bad ghosting when I'm the max setting. Once I changed it to just normal high performance it stopped doing that.

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32 minutes ago, Jerochy said:

Ah I see. How is it then that my old monitor is/was able to pull of around 10ms response times in rust with it being 5ms and this monitor is getting like 15ms and it's rated at 1ms? I'm very disappointed in this crap if that's the case.

Advertised response times don't represent the real response times. If you're basing your assessment on max response time setting though, turn it down first; the response time will most likely improve if you turn the setting down. Typically the maximum (fastest) setting goes overkill and introduces more ghosting instead of reducing it.

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6 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

Advertised response times don't represent the real response times. If you're basing your assessment on max response time setting though, turn it down first; the response time will most likely improve if you turn the setting down. Typically the maximum (fastest) setting goes overkill and introduces more ghosting instead of reducing it.

Yeah I see what you're saying now. I tried launched cs with a friend who also has a more expensive 1ms response monitor and he was getting around 1ms and I'm sitting around 4-5ms so it looks like you were right. Thank you for saving me the trouble of trying to fix this thing.

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