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LoL Tournament Hosting Hardware Needed

BuckGup

I am in charge of hosting a very large LoL tournament and I need a way to host all the games. There will be about 700 players connected. I already have the bandwidth taken care of as the connection speed is 5 gigabits/second up and down. But I need to know server hardware? Unlimited budget too but can’t be stupid within reason. Thanks

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7 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I am in charge of hosting a very large LoL tournament and I need a way to host all the games. There will be about 700 players connected. I already have the bandwidth taken care of as the connection speed is 5 gigabits/second up and down. But I need to know server hardware? Unlimited budget too but can’t be stupid within reason. Thanks

Riot doesn't allow you to run the game on your own servers. You just need to have everyone log into the client like usual, then you can create a custom game, and select game type Tournament Draft.

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4 minutes ago, Theguywhobea said:

Riot doesn't allow you to run the game on your own servers. You just need to have everyone log into the client like usual, then you can create a custom game, and select game type Tournament Draft.

This. If you have previously (meaning some months ahead of the event) had a deal with Riot, they may make matchmaking somewhat easier for the tournament, but you won't be hosting locally any.

 

EDIT: Forgot one thing. If you are organizing this for the first time, you might not be supported by them at all. We haven't had luck with them either.

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51 minutes ago, Theguywhobea said:

Riot doesn't allow you to run the game on your own servers. You just need to have everyone log into the client like usual, then you can create a custom game, and select game type Tournament Draft.

 

47 minutes ago, jj9987 said:

This. If you have previously (meaning some months ahead of the event) had a deal with Riot, they may make matchmaking somewhat easier for the tournament, but you won't be hosting locally any.

 

EDIT: Forgot one thing. If you are organizing this for the first time, you might not be supported by them at all. We haven't had luck with them either.

Didn't know that. I usually hosted CSGO not LoL so this is new to me. We are also using Battlefy for match making and brackets. So would they just invite the other team to a lobby and then play and Battlefy records the wins and losses? Or does battlefy auto fill in the teams to the right servers.

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Just now, BuckGup said:

 

Didn't know that. I usually hosted CSGO not LoL so this is new to me. We are also using Battlefy for match making and brackets. So would they just invite the other team to a lobby and then play and Battlefy records the wins and losses? Or does battlefy auto fill in the teams to the right servers.

Well, they will all be on the same NA server. You just need people to coordinate themselves probably based on the brackets Battlefly makes. I bet if you email Riot support or their e-sports people right now they might at least be able to point you in the right direction.

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14 hours ago, BuckGup said:

I am in charge of hosting a very large LoL tournament and I need a way to host all the games. There will be about 700 players connected. I already have the bandwidth taken care of as the connection speed is 5 gigabits/second up and down. But I need to know server hardware? Unlimited budget too but can’t be stupid within reason. Thanks

You're asking this in the networking forum so I asume you want some networking advice right?
So what do you have already and what do you still need?
Also you only have 1 connection to the outside? From what I understand from the other people here you will be royaly f*cked if your connection goes down or even is unstable, so you probably want to make sure this is properly done and has failovers.

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At a minimum I would suggest 16 L2 gigabit switches with dual 10gig uplinks connected to a pair of L3 32 port 10gig switches.

Each gigabit switch is in it's own VLAN or two and keep those switches L2 only

Put the gateway on the 10gig switches and have those act as L3 devices

Run vPC plus HSRP, VSS, or another form of redundancy.

Make sure you have ACLs to protect the devices from some asshole trying to access it and screw with everyone.

 

If you really want to get fancy:

-Each port or tournament group gets their own VLAN

-ACL off everyone from accessing the other VLANs except the tournament server VLAN(s)

-Implement QoS all over the place

-Firewalls with malware protection if you want to go the extra mile

 

-or-

 

Get a few data center switches and connect up a bunch of FEXes for simpler management and ease of control.

 

 

For server hardware itself, get whatever you think will run things best :)

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41 minutes ago, Levisallanon said:

You're asking this in the networking forum so I asume you want some networking advice right?
So what do you have already and what do you still need?
Also you only have 1 connection to the outside? From what I understand from the other people here you will be royaly f*cked if your connection goes down or even is unstable, so you probably want to make sure this is properly done and has failovers.

 

21 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

What tournament is this for?

High Schools are now supporting eSports as colleges are accepting scholarships based on eSports performance, just like basketball, tennis, and so on. So they are now having regional competitions between schools

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45 minutes ago, Lurick said:

At a minimum I would suggest 16 L2 gigabit switches with dual 10gig uplinks connected to a pair of L3 32 port 10gig switches.

Each gigabit switch is in it's own VLAN or two and keep those switches L2 only

Put the gateway on the 10gig switches and have those act as L3 devices

Run vPC plus HSRP, VSS, or another form of redundancy.

Make sure you have ACLs to protect the devices from some asshole trying to access it and screw with everyone.

 

If you really want to get fancy:

-Each port or tournament group gets their own VLAN

-ACL off everyone from accessing the other VLANs except the tournament server VLAN(s)

-Implement QoS all over the place

-Firewalls with malware protection if you want to go the extra mile

 

-or-

 

Get a few data center switches and connect up a bunch of FEXes for simpler management and ease of control.

 

 

For server hardware itself, get whatever you think will run things best :)

You probably want to limit the connection to only go to the LoL servers anyways ...
Also your idea souns good but it would depend on the location and the lay-out.
For a tournament like this I asume the equipment will be placed and should be removed again also. So probably you have different rooms/area's where you have groups of players playing, so you want to have switches at every place. and you want to have redudant connection to every area etc.
So without a proper floorplan etc I don't think we can make any good recommendations. 

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8 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

 

High Schools are now supporting eSports as colleges are accepting scholarships based on eSports performance, just like basketball, tennis, and so on. So they are now having regional competitions between schools

is this part of the LOL clubs tournaments (the school league) or something different? Riot might be more willing to help with this then a normal LAN event, I would try and contact them. other wise you need to make sure you have a stable big internet connection with some nice QOS to manage the gaming traffic. normally LOL is online only unless its a Riot games tournament.

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2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

is this part of the LOL clubs tournaments (the school league) or something different? Riot might be more willing to help with this then a normal LAN event, I would try and contact them. other wise you need to make sure you have a stable big internet connection with some nice QOS to manage the gaming traffic. normally LOL is online only unless its a Riot games tournament.

I think it's something different as in the upcoming years there is going to be classes you can take to train how to be good at eSports and have practice before or after school like normal sports. I will defiantly contact Riot though. In terms of network we have 5 gigabit up and down with 100 gigabit local switches.

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4 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I think it's something different as in the upcoming years there is going to be classes you can take to train how to be good at eSports and have practice before or after school like normal sports. I will defiantly contact Riot though. In terms of network we have 5 gigabit up and down with 100 gigabit local switches.

So for a idea, Fites LAN had about 200-250 people with 2 (or maybe 3) 100/10 coax internet connections with 1Gb switches with a 10Gbps back bone, and playing LOL was fine the past 2 years.

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Also after some searching I found this



5v5 Game: Bandwidth Usage at the end of a 44:27 5v5 game: 

League of Legends skinned.launcher
Download: 44.38KB 
Upload: 12.39KB 


Download: 2349.53KB 
Upload: 491.71KB
[/Code] League of Legends Client: 
[code]
Download: 24.29MB 
Upload: 13.41MB 




Here:

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=505170
The launcher download we can probably ignore because that should only be done ones.
So you want to look at the usage of the Client.
I believe this is only for 1 user and it looks like some kind of recording from a client. so let's see how much 1 user uses per second.
44:27 minutes = 2667 seconds

24,29 MB = 25469911 bytes

so thats 9550 B/s so that is about 9,3 kB/s
So that is 75 kb/s per user
You said you have 700 users, so let's asume the worst and they are all playing at the same time. that would mean you need:
75*700 = 52227 kb/s = 51 mb/s
So your internet connection won't be the problem. it looks like you have about 100 times as much as you would need if these statistics are correct.
Personally I would have gone for multiple smaller connections and use HSRP etc to make sure you always have an active connection which can support the whole thing.
But you could for example have a backup 100mb/s line where you can switch to if things go wrong, and it should still be able to support everything.

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19 minutes ago, Levisallanon said:

Also after some searching I found this

 


Here:

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=505170
The launcher download we can probably ignore because that should only be done ones.
So you want to look at the usage of the Client.
I believe this is only for 1 user and it looks like some kind of recording from a client. so let's see how much 1 user uses per second.
44:27 minutes = 2667 seconds

24,29 MB = 25469911 bytes

so thats 9550 B/s so that is about 9,3 kB/s
So that is 75 kb/s per user
You said you have 700 users, so let's asume the worst and they are all playing at the same time. that would mean you need:
75*700 = 52227 kb/s = 51 mb/s
So your internet connection won't be the problem. it looks like you have about 100 times as much as you would need if these statistics are correct.
Personally I would have gone for multiple smaller connections and use HSRP etc to make sure you always have an active connection which can support the whole thing.
But you could for example have a backup 100mb/s line where you can switch to if things go wrong, and it should still be able to support everything.

Yup we do have a backup 180mb/s connection but it’s from a local ISP. As we own the other network to the backbone.

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Just now, BuckGup said:

Yup we do have a backup 180mb/s connection but it’s from a local ISP. As we own the other network to the backbone.

that's good
So what else do you need help with?
Like I said if you want more networking tips you would first need to provide more info...

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4 hours ago, Levisallanon said:

that's good
So what else do you need help with?
Like I said if you want more networking tips you would first need to provide more info...

Well according to others I can’t host the server myself as Riot games doesn’t allow it. But I’m going to contact Riot and see. If I can then maybe CPU recommendation and GPU

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