850W EVGA throws out house fuse?

[Melodist]

Hey there,

 

Whenever I turn on the PC in the morning, my computer throws out the fuse, afterwards, it is not a problem anymore. Cold caps charging and overshoot or power supply broken?

 

Is it dangerous for my to run my computer that way?

 

*Damn it, wrong forum, too many tabs open*

[Oskar94a]

How many amps is the fuse? What else is running on that fuse?

[Melodist]

Just now, Oskar94a said:

How many amps is the fuse? What else is running on that fuse?

Dunno it is a house fuse, probably 16 amps. Not much to be honest.

[xg32]

Just now, Melodist said:

Dunno it is a house fuse, probably 16 amps. Not much to be honest.

if the comp alone causes the house fuse to act up, that's a problem. Usually it takes 2 rigs+a blowdryer for my house, and my place has weak fuses.

[LienusLateTips]

What's the PSU model?

[Melodist]

Just now, xg32 said:

if the comp alone causes the house fuse to act up, that's a problem. Usually it takes 2 rigs+a blowdryer for my house, and my place has weak fuses.

Does it hurt my computer if I run it? Until I swap the supply? But it could be my story's fuse too?

[Melodist]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

What's the PSU model?

850W Supernova Gay 2

[xg32]

Just now, Melodist said:

Does it hurt my computer if I run it? Until I swap the supply? But it could be my story's fuse too?

i wouldn't do it if u can consistently replicate the problem. It could be a faulty psu if ur sure that's the only thing causing it. My concern is the psu drawing more than what it needs and damaging the components. Even if that doesnt happen, if the house fuse gives out repeatedly ur psu would probably be the first thing to go. I know the blowdryer problem in my house killed my last psu slowly (maybe 10 incidents total), still lasted 6 years tho.

[Melodist]

Just now, xg32 said:

i wouldn't do it if u can consistently replicate the problem. It could be a faulty psu if ur sure that's the only thing causing it. My concern is the psu drawing more than what it needs and damaging the components. Even if that doesnt happen, if the house fuse gives out repeatedly ur psu would probably be the first thing to go. I know the blowdryer problem in my house killed my last psu slowly (maybe 10 incidents total), still lasted 6 years tho.

Yeah but then my voltages should be off right?

[SageOfSpice]

Well, in North America, we run 120v. Our circuit breakers are usually rated for 15A, aside from the kitched and wherever the laundry stuff is, which is typically rated for 30A.  At 15A, we're looking at 1800W, far more than your computer should ever draw. I'd take a look at what else you're running on that circuit. You could try it on a different circuit to see if you get the same result. Sometimes circuit breakers become more sensitive in inrush current as they age, and can trip pre-maturely.

[Melodist]

3 minutes ago, SageOfSpice said:

Well, in North America, we run 120v. Our circuit breakers are usually rated for 15A, aside from the kitched and wherever the laundry stuff is, which is typically rated for 30A.  At 15A, we're looking at 1800W, far more than your computer should ever draw. I'd take a look at what else you're running on that circuit. You could try it on a different circuit to see if you get the same result. Sometimes circuit breakers become more sensitive in inrush current as they age, and can trip pre-maturely.

Not that old, a year, something could short in my PC though? But then it shouldn't turn on. I mean, it happens early in the day when I boot the PC up for the first time. Afterwards during the day no issues.

 

[SageOfSpice]

1 minute ago, Melodist said:

Not that old, a year, something could short in my PC though? But then it shouldn't turn on. I mean, it happens early in the day when I boot the PC up for the first time. Afterwards during the day no issues.

This might sound like a stupid question, but is it because you've got the lights on? They're on the same circuit.

[Melodist]

3 minutes ago, SageOfSpice said:

This might sound like a stupid question, but is it because you've got the lights on? They're on the same circuit.

What lights? In the house? Well my MOBO RGB lights are always on. Dunno what you mean. But room lights are on I guess.

[xg32]

10 minutes ago, Melodist said:

Not that old, a year, something could short in my PC though? But then it shouldn't turn on. I mean, it happens early in the day when I boot the PC up for the first time. Afterwards during the day no issues.

 

the voltages once u get into windows better be accurate, im just concerned that the whatever the psu is doing is strong enough to affect the house by itself, it just takes 1 bad boot to do something to other components, also how consistently can you trip ur house fuse?

[SageOfSpice]

1 minute ago, Melodist said:

What lights? In the house? Well my MOBO RGB lights are always on. Dunno what you mean.

Yes, the lights in the room. It's possible that combined they're exceeding the current rating during the inrush when you first start your computer. I actually just checked my power meter, and it seems that on my setup, I've gotten an inrush of up to 1500W on startup. So realistically, that's only 300W away from tripping the breaker. That's about 2 60-100W bulbs, and a little change for misc electronics.

[Melodist]

3 minutes ago, xg32 said:

the voltages once u get into windows better be accurate, im just concerned that the whatever the psu is doing is strong enough to affect the house by itself, it just takes 1 bad boot to do something to other components.

Yeah but it only happens when the PSU hasn't been used for a long time. Would a protector help that discharges a bit of the peak draw?

[just_dave]

I have the same problem.

There might phase and 0 switched around somewhere, at least thats my problem with 3 frickin power cords

[Melodist]

1 minute ago, dave_k said:

I have the same problem.

There might phase and 0 switched around somewhere, at least thats my problem with 3 frickin power cords

Power cord and PSU?

[just_dave]

Just now, Melodist said:

Power cord and PSU?

I use power splitter that has the phase problem, my PSU is RM650x. It used to happen a lot, now its pretty rare.

[Melodist]

10 minutes ago, dave_k said:

I use power splitter that has the phase problem, my PSU is RM650x. It used to happen a lot, now its pretty rare.

Just noticed that I also have a UAD2 Quad Satellite power supply at the same chord. That could be the issue too right? It is rated 12 V 3 A, the other PSU and my Display turns on with it too obviously.

 

 

 

Will have to test this in the morning.

[just_dave]

2 minutes ago, Melodist said:

Just noticed that I also have a UAD2 Quad Satellite power supply at the same chord. That could be the issue too right? It is rated 12 V 3 A, the other PSU and my Display turns on with it too obviously.

 

 

Try powering the Pc without it and see what happens

[faziten]

Could be a ground loop. As other people suggested, try one thing at a time. Unplug everything, plug cpu only then add the monitor and so on.

If it's still happening try another plug in your house and dont use extension cords of any kind.

Plug the PSU with it's own cable directly to wall outlet.

[Melodist]

49 minutes ago, faziten said:

Could be a ground loop. As other people suggested, try one thing at a time. Unplug everything, plug cpu only then add the monitor and so on.

If it's still happening try another plug in your house and dont use extension cords of any kind.

Plug the PSU with it's own cable directly to wall outlet.

Yeah, can only do that every morning or whenever the computer was turned off for a longer time.

 

Thanks.

[Melodist]

Have I mentioned that it doesn't happen when I turn on the pc, but when I turn on the power bar it is connected to, so I haven't turned the PC on yet, it would be just in standby / the motherboard LED's on but not turned on yet. I mean I just allow power to the devices and then the fuse goes out. When I put the fuse back, it doesn't throw it out.

[Stefan Payne]

11 hours ago, Melodist said:

Hey there,

 

Whenever I turn on the PC in the morning, my computer throws out the fuse, afterwards, it is not a problem anymore. Cold caps charging and overshoot or power supply broken?

 

Is it dangerous for my to run my computer that way?

 

*Damn it, wrong forum, too many tabs open*

Make a picture of the Fuse.

WHat Fuse are you talking about?!

 

In 9 out of 10 cases whenever that topic comes up, people are talking about 50 year old breakers...