all the Mandela ranting, really annoying.

[Cryptonite]

It just plain ticks me off, end of story. Stop calling him a saint.

 

links: http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/can-whites-escape-post-mandela-bloodbath/

http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/dont-mourn-for-mandela/

https://www.facebook.com/StopFarmAttacksMudersInSouthAfrica

 

The kill the "boer" (farmer) (indicates white people) song video

[wng_kingsley7]

He was a so called "Saint in his peoples eyes" others may discourage that due to his history of crime and being locked in jail most of his life. Does that demean he wasn't what he's being assumed.

[Tmh85]

Why? I find him to be a very inspirational person!

[Cryptonite]

He was a so called "Saint in his peoples eyes" others may discourage that due to his history of crime and being locked in jail most of his life. Does that demean he wasn't what he's being assumed.

 

 

Why? I find him to be a very inspirational person!

Both of you not from South Africa, cool story bro, please tell me more about how my country works and how the people are. Here are some of his followers, however getting news about him to the outside world is harder to accomplish.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzRSE_p1Ys

 

Edit: did you even follow my links?

[Tmh85]

Both of you not from South Africa, cool story bro, please tell me more about how my country works and how the people are. Here are some of his followers, however getting news about him to the outside world is harder to accomplish.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzRSE_p1Ys

Dat sign language dude

[Youbetternot]

But, But, But he's a good guy

[Blue fellow]

Both of you not from South Africa, cool story bro, please tell me more about how my country works and how the people are. Here are some of his followers, however getting news about him to the outside world is harder to accomplish.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzRSE_p1Ys

 

Edit: did you even follow my links?

 

 

I'm not familiar with the language, but that guy has an awful voice.

[MatheusSanzo]

The best thing was the guy responsible for the hand signals.

 

But they should stop the hate on him, come on, he will get the things right the next time.

[wng_kingsley7]

Do you remember Gaddafi.in his reign of power before the America government shut him down. He was offering many materialistic things people would give for. Houses, free money etc. Does that mean he was a bad guy..... "I think no" however his crimes of ruling a dictatorship end up costing his life and no one has the right to take a mans life.

 

A quote from Wreck it! Ralph the disney movie. The bad guy oath

Wreck it! Ralph : I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.

What Zangief tells Ralph

Zangief: Right here. I'm Zangief, I'm bad guy.

Bad-Anon Members: Hi Zangief.

Zangief: I relate to you, Ralph. When I hit bottom, I was crushing man's skull like sparrow's egg, between by thighs... and I think, why you have to be so bad, Zangief? Why can't you be more like good guy? Then I have moment of clarity... if Zangief is good guy, who will crush man's skull like sparrow's eggs between thighs? And I say, Zangief you are bad guy, but this does not mean you are *bad* guy.

[bad-Anon members agree]

[wng_kingsley7]

Never mind I'm out of the subject topic.

[Cryptonite]

Dat sign language dude

 

 

I'm not familiar with the language, but that guy has an awful voice.

ignore the douche doing the hand signs, learn the language or read the subtitles. It's a major uproar in our country but to everyone else there's a pillar of smoke thrown between the truth and what's portraid.

If you call them correct. You're saying that these killings are justified.

[Cryptonite]

Do you remember Gaddafi.in his reign of power before the America government shut him down. He was offering many materialistic things people would give for. Houses, free money etc. Does that mean he was a bad guy..... "I think no" however his crimes of ruling a dictatorship end up costing his life and no one has the right to take a mans life.

 

A quote from Wreck it! Ralph the disney movie. The bad guy oath

What Zangief tells Ralph

What? my concern is people dieing, not bullshit cartoons. or corrupt politicians 

 

Edit: a load more murders happening the past few months compared to a while ago as well.

[Tmh85]

ignore the douche doing the hand signs, learn the language or read the subtitles. It's a major uproar in our country but to everyone else there's a pillar of smoke thrown between the truth and what's portraid.

If you call them correct. You're saying that these killings are justified.

No, i'm not saying that, Honestly I was unaware especially with the media here in the U.S they praise the bad guys and hurt the good guys

[Cryptonite]

No, i'm not saying that, Honestly I was unaware especially with the media here in the U.S they praise the bad guys and hurt the good guys

That's why I'm trying to shed some light, because these things are happening already and the city folk and other countries are turning a blind eye because the evidence does not support this. these are mere farm attacks (yet NOTHING gets stolen) and the attacks increase in occurrences. people eat horseshit just because they're told it's a delicacy.

[Tmh85]

people eat horseshit just because they're told it's a delicacy.

That has to be one of the best sayings of all time

[Cryptonite]

Damned puppets to society.

[Mooshi]

Welcome to Globalization white-washing 101. There are many public figures that are held in high regard that are frauds all over the world. Martin Luther King Jr was a plagiarist womanizer, Mother Theresa was only in it for the money and left people to lay on tiny cots suffering while she herself gave up her faith decades before here death. Even Gandhi isn't clean, the man was a racist and only supporting the Indians.People turn a blind eye to their idols when they should be opening up their eyes to the world around them.

[Advent]

Eh, I'll take Mandela over Apartheid any day.

Also no one is a saint. Everyone has aspects of themselves that are bad. That doesn't mean that the little bit of bad done by people like Mandela outweigh all the good they did.

Also things done in the name of someone and not by themselves does not mean that they support said actions either.

All I see here are knee jerk reactions and hate/fear mongering.

Hate begets hatred.

 

/thread.

[Cryptonite]

Eh, I'll take Mandela over Apartheid any day.

Also no one is a saint. Everyone has aspects of themselves that are bad. That doesn't mean that the little bit of bad done by people like Mandela outweigh all the good they did.

Also things done in the name of someone and not by themselves does not mean that they support said actions either.

All I see here are knee jerk reactions and hate/fear mongering.

Hate begets hatred.

 

/thread.

you Don't get it. He's a terrorist who killed countless, the problem is that all the information about that is confiscated. I won't debate it anymore, I realize that this world is lost to morons. You don't have any idea what apartheid was like nor do you know what South Africa is really like now. The media really did brainwash you all.

 

Just a while ago people I know were victims of an attack where nothing was stolen yet they were continuously stabbed and burnt with a iron. The only reason you prefer this is because you have no idea what you are talking about.  

[Advent]

He's a terrorist who killed countless people.

So you are equating him to someone like... say... Bin Laden or some other mass murderer like... Hitler?

Oh and you aren't debating anything. You are giving opinionated, myopic, anecdotal responses and a few urls. That a debate does not make.

How do you know that I don't know anything about SA or Apartheid? Do you know me? Do you know where I live? Do you know how old I am? Do you know who my family members are? Where they live and grew up?  You make so many assumptions in your statements.

[Cryptonite]

So you are equating him to someone like... say... Hitler?

Oh and you aren't debating anything. You are giving opinionated, myopic, anecdotal responses and a few urls. That a debate does not make.

Also who do you know that I don't know anything about SA or Apartheid? Do you know me? Do you know where I live? Do you know how old I am? You make so many assumptions in your statements.

yea, I said debate because I lack the proper wording, Yes I'm equating him to someone like Hitler, only more deviant and subtle.

 

I can link you to more deaths, but that's about all that is made public, most of the information as I said has been confiscated and is hard to find let alone publish world wide.

 

The reason I say you don't know anything is because you clearly do not, even visiting a country like this won't make you notice anything, if it did they'd be stupid and dealt with a while ago.

 

I'm not making these statements that all the black people in SA are bad, I'm stating that the anc party and mandela along with his following are.

 

 

I get why people don't believe this though, and I just wanted to put this out there. I won't bring up the topic again but if war breaks out (which we are trying to avoid) then so be it.

If it doesn't break out, I don't mind looking the fool to the rest of the world. A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it to be the truth and the truth is the truth even if everyone believes it to be a lie.

[Sammael]

No one thinks he was a saint, he was not a gandian/mlk type figure, the key with him is that he went out of his way to not take retribution on the white south african population.  He sought to bring the country together, it could have turned bloody and violent.  He knew that was not the right path, he needed the Afrikaans population to stick around and prosper, their destruction and murder would not help the rest of south africa.  His wife DID go down that path, and it's a path he could have easily gone down as well, but he chose the more conciliatory one.

 

 

Queue Fareed:

 

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/08/nelson-mandelas-life-and-legacy-on-cnns-fareed-zakaria-gps/

[juretrn]

yea, I said debate because I lack the proper wording, Yes I'm equating him to someone like Hitler, only more deviant and subtle.

 

I can link you to more deaths, but that's about all that is made public, most of the information as I said has been confiscated and is hard to find let alone publish world wide.

 

The reason I say you don't know anything is because you clearly do not, even visiting a country like this won't make you notice anything, if it did they'd be stupid and dealt with a while ago.

 

I'm not making these statements that all the black people in SA are bad, I'm stating that the anc party and mandela along with his following are.

 

 

I get why people don't believe this though, and I just wanted to put this out there. I won't bring up the topic again but if war breaks out (which we are trying to avoid) then so be it.

If it doesn't break out, I don't mind looking the fool to the rest of the world. A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it to be the truth and the truth is the truth even if everyone believes it to be a lie.

Mandela is just reverse of Nazi Germany. Of course he can't be 100% clean, no one is. As for the murdering part, I won't say anything, I don't know the situation well enough. That is like someone from outside wanting to be smart about the wars here in the Balkans, i understand you. 

As for Nazi Germany, so little people see past the war crimes. Of course, that was a huge human tragedy, but there was so much more. They restarted the economy, got people working, made autobahns, made countless scientific discoveries... everything has two sides.