Posted November 29, 2017 A few days ago Samsung has released new firmware for the 960 series SSDs. It's reported throughout the web that multiple end-users are seeing issues with application freezes or a sudden drop in performance. From the looks of it involves firmware update 3B6QCXP7 and 3B7QCXE7, specifically for the 960 series NVMe M2 drives (both EVO and Pro). While we cannot see how big the user-base affected is, we simply wanted to put out the word as hey, better stay safe and do not upgrade to this firmware just yet. Source - Guru3D This is a bit concerning being a 960 EVO 512GB owner. I'm glad I don't have Samsung Magician installed tho. What a blunder for Samsung, especially with more NVMe drives entering the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 29, 2017 960 Evo 250GB owner here, don't have Magician installed and haven't updated the firmware since building my PC, so I don't have this issue. Kinda sloppy of Samsung though.. "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, CUDA_Cores said: 950 pro owner here. Compared to my laptop with a Samsung 840 evo there is very little difference in day-to-day use. NVME SSDs can really only benifet people that can take advantage of the sequential reads and writes. A NVME SSD will feel similar to a SATA SSD in daily use because they have similar access times vs spinning rust. Additional benefits include ePeen/internet points; although not needing to allocate more cables + drive slots/bays is definitely nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 29, 2017 It's bound to happen and if they issue a fix quickly, I see no problems with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 29, 2017 58 minutes ago, CUDA_Cores said: I had an old 40GB Intel SSD from 2012 that had the imfamous "8MB" bug. Just google "intel 8MB bug" and you will see what i'm talking about. 40GB SSD, early adopter I assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 29, 2017 3 hours ago, thorhammerz said: Additional benefits include ePeen/internet points; although not needing to allocate more cables + drive slots/bays is definitely nice. I object to your epeen comment.. I will now call it "evag" Please quote my post, or put @paddy-stone if you want me to respond to you. Spoiler PCs:- Main PC build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2K6Q7X ASUS x53e - i7 2670QM / Sony BD writer x8 / Win 10, Elemetary OS, Ubuntu/ Samsung 830 SSD Lenovo G50 - 8Gb RAM - Samsung 860 Evo 250GB SSD - DVD writer Displays:- Philips 55 OLED 754 model Panasonic 55" 4k TV LG 29" Ultrawide Philips 24" 1080p monitor as backup Storage/NAS/Servers:- ESXI/test build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4wyR9G Main Server https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3Qftyk Backup server - HP Proliant Gen 8 4 bay NAS running FreeNAS ZFS striped 3x3TiB WD reds HP ProLiant G6 Server SE316M1 Twin Hex Core Intel Xeon E5645 2.40GHz 48GB RAM Gaming/Tablets etc:- Xbox One S 500GB + 2TB HDD PS4 Nvidia Shield TV Xiaomi/Pocafone F2 pro 8GB/256GB Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Unused Hardware currently :- 4670K MSI mobo 16GB ram i7 6700K b250 mobo Zotac GTX 1060 6GB Amp! edition Zotac GTX 1050 mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2017 Hot damn, I just installed a 960 EVO this morning. Kind of glad I opted against installing the Samsung Magician software for the moment. if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2017 Guess I won't be updating or in the very least checking the status before hand. Hopefully they fix they quick. Don't own a 960 Evo/Pro but I plan on getting two Evo's though for my upcoming build. Didn't except to hear this sort of story beforehand... I always wonder how this sort of stuff hits public release (In general. Not just Driver/Firmware but like Game Updates too)... Do companies have small test groups or something and it slips by somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2017 I know this is about the Pro, but I have an Evo in one system with Magician software. Does it force updates on you (Windows 10 style), or do you still have to manually ok it? Generally speaking I only do a check and update on a SSD when I buy it, and after that, only do them if there are critical problems that need fixing. The Crucial M4 had one where it would go responsive every hour after 5184 power on hours. Obviously it took a long time to show up and it was discovered before mine hit the time, and firmware was provided to fix it. 13 hours ago, Matu20 said: 40GB SSD, early adopter I assume Still got one in active use! The Intel V series was one of the first "affordable" SSDs. Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, RTX 4070, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, random 1080p + 720p displays. Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2017 3 hours ago, porina said: I know this is about the Pro, but I have an Evo in one system with Magician software. Does it force updates on you (Windows 10 style), or do you still have to manually ok it? Generally speaking I only do a check and update on a SSD when I buy it, and after that, only do them if there are critical problems that need fixing. The Crucial M4 had one where it would go responsive every hour after 5184 power on hours. Obviously it took a long time to show up and it was discovered before mine hit the time, and firmware was provided to fix it. Still got one in active use! The Intel V series was one of the first "affordable" SSDs. Oh wow, and it's healthy as well, props to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 1, 2017 Hope they can issue a fix quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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