ALERT =many people choose wrong ram for AMD

[ramin rostami]

boys 

just use 2 ram real dual channel (2 in a box) in ryzen and never never use 1 single ram

 in threadripper use real quadchannel (4ram in 1 box) never never use 4* dual ram on it

(inside diffrent channel ram , pcb , hardware not same , 2*single not dual channel or 4*dual not quad)

all amd (except threadripper) nead dual channel like fx8350 , phenom,athlon,ryzen

 

if you use dualchannel ram in threadripper(or single in ryzen) system cant start or will give tiny freeze

 

example for ryzen =gskill RGB tridentz 3200 2*8

example for threadripper=gskill ripjaws4 2800 4*4

[WereCat]

9 minutes ago, ramin rostami said:

 

 

if you use dualchannel ram in threadripper(or single in ryzen) system cant start or will give tiny freeze

 

 

that's not entirely true

PC will work just fine but the RAM bottleneck and infinity fabric bottleneck will become very apparent

[RedSector]

Ryzen 7 1800x can run fine on one stick... in fact on the old board only way to stop infinity loop.  You point is lost on me as in not true for Ryzen 7

[Princess Luna]

Such a joke, bother yourself to find Samsung B-Die modules, avoid Hinyx ones at all cost and done you have yourself Ryzen memory.

[RedSector]

31 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Such a joke, bother yourself to find Samsung B-Die modules, avoid Hinyx ones at all cost and done you have yourself Ryzen memory.

TOTAL Crap just like OP's POST about Ryzen 7.

 

SK Hynix here

SummitPI-AM4 1.0.0.6

Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 
8x Ryzen 7 1800X HT    Asus Crosshair VI Hero    X370    Dual DDR4-3200    16-18-18-36 CR1   

 

Also work at full 3200 in the gigabyte board however you cant then o/c the nuts out of the CPU easily as you can on the ASUS one ~imo. GA-AX370-Gaming K7 Verified working.

 

Opps - guess if I bothered to own one I would know something about it.... but hey why let that stop you.

[Imbellis]

I've been running stable off of 1x16gb stick of ram w/ 1600x. Been doing fine.

[Technomancer__]

16 minutes ago, RedSector said:

TOTAL Crap just like OP's POST about Ryzen 7.

 

SK Hynix here

SummitPI-AM4 1.0.0.6

Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 
8x Ryzen 7 1800X HT    Asus Crosshair VI Hero    X370    Dual DDR4-3200    16-18-18-36 CR1   

 

Also work in gigabyte boards. Gaming 7 one verified.
 

Opps - guess if I bothered to own one I would know something about it.... but hey why let that stop you.

she said to avoid because Samsung b die works better

[RedSector]

2 minutes ago, Ethocreeper said:

she said to avoid because Samsung b die works better

Why avoid what works. How in your world does this make scene to you as good advice ?

[Technomancer__]

2 minutes ago, RedSector said:

Why avoid what works. How in your world does this make scene to you as good advice ?

it doesnt work as good

btw i have Hynix lpx 3200mhz and it wont run at 3200mhz

[RedSector]

9 minutes ago, Ethocreeper said:

it doesnt work as good

btw i have Hynix lpx 3200mhz and it wont run at 3200mhz

 

I have Samsung b that's broken based on what your saying, should we avoid that 2 or accept shit happens ?

[Princess Luna]

30 minutes ago, RedSector said:

Why avoid what works. How in your world does this make scene to you as good advice ?

With all duo respect I do not need a "nobody" user with 75 posts telling what I and at least 15+ senior users have tested and come up with ourselves, Hynix failure rate is absurdly higher than any Samsung die while B-Dies have always been the ones to overclock better, period.

 

Even if your honestly works fine that is great to you then again it is irrelevant data in the great scheme of things.

[RedSector]

30 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

With all duo respect I do not need a "nobody" user with 75 posts telling what I and at least 15+ senior users have tested and come up with ourselves, Hynix failure rate is absurdly higher than any Samsung die while B-Dies have always been the ones to overclock better, period.

 

Even if your honestly works fine that is great to you then again it is irrelevant data in the great scheme of things.

yeah your right. All those posts must be hard work.

[Coaxialgamer]

4 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Such a joke, bother yourself to find Samsung B-Die modules, avoid Hinyx ones at all cost and done you have yourself Ryzen memory.

Not really, i have a 2800mhz hynix kit running at 3200 in my rig atm. 

I also have a 2666 micron kit running at 3200 aswell. 

Ryzen isn't nearly as picky anymore. 

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Coaxialgamer said:

Not really, i have a 2800mhz hynix kit running at 3200 in my rig atm. 

I also have a 2666 micron kit running at 3200 aswell. 

Ryzen isn't nearly as picky anymore. 

My statement was never that IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO OVERCLOCK HYNIX

 

My statement was that given the odds Samsung B-Dies have extreme better chances compared to Hynix and its much higher failure rate, in no way I ever stated that every thing time it will fail no, I state that if you want to be sure, increasing your odds statistically speaking, you should go B-Dies that's it.

 

Gosh what is it? now every single person that successfully got Hynix modules working will come here say I am wrong without even understanding what I said in the first place? B-Dies have a success ratio of 9 in 10 attempts, Hynix has 3 in 10 attempt, if you are a lucky one in these 3 great! it doesn't change facts though and definitely shouldn't be reason to advise people getting it.

[porina]

4 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Such a joke, bother yourself to find Samsung B-Die modules, avoid Hinyx ones at all cost and done you have yourself Ryzen memory.

I find it a bit sad that Ryzen prefers what is arguably the best performing DDR4 to get to moderate speeds (3200). Not to say other ram can't do it, but it is a bit of a lucky dip. B-die comes at a cost premium too. I only recently sourced some to give it some high clock fun on Intel, and I'm paying for that potential.

 

On Hynix kits (mostly Corsair LPX), and AGESA 1.0.0.6+ I've typically reached 2933 minimum without bother, and I'd take the small performance hit (down from 3200) for the bigger saving in cost.

5 hours ago, ramin rostami said:

just use 2 ram real dual channel (2 in a box) in ryzen and never never use 1 single ram

 in threadripper use real quadchannel (4ram in 1 box) never never use 4* dual ram on it

 

Using all available channels is usually the cheapest way to maximise your total ram bandwidth, and I'd aim to do that on every system I have. However, with Ryzen there is another factor to consider, that infinity fabric is tied to ram clock. Depending on the use case, faster single channel ram could lead to better performance than basic speed dual channel.

[RedSector]

13 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Gosh what is it? now every single person that successfully got Hynix modules working will come here say I am wrong without even understanding what I said in the first place? B-Dies have a success ratio of 9 in 10 attempts, Hynix has 3 in 10 attempt, if you are a lucky one in these 3 great! it doesn't change facts though and definitely shouldn't be reason to advise people getting it.

 

Sorry I cant find the 3/10 success ratio you mention for Hynix modules anywhere. Being noob and all could you point to your source of your ascertain facts or are these figures like everything you said figurative ? 

[johndms]

50 minutes ago, RedSector said:

 

Sorry I cant find the 3/10 success ratio you mention for Hynix modules anywhere. Being noob and all could you point to your source of your ascertain facts or are these figures like everything you said figurative ? 

Dude, just drop it. As a Hynix M-Die owner able to overclock and tighten my timings further than I ever thought possible, I know damn good and well Hynix CAN work and I also know how lucky I was, but it absolutely sucks compared to the results I've seen with Samsung B-Die. That's the point being made. The proof is here in these forums. Some of us have listened and responded to hundreds of threads over the past six months of people having various memory issues with Ryzen. The common denominator is usually non- B-die chips.

 

I also wish I'd purchased B-Die as the results are often MUCH better than what I've accomplished thus far. You can see my results after overclocking and tightening my Hynix M-Die kit in the link below. Sadly, my results are pathetic compared to what I could have achieved had I spent $20-$30 more (at the time).

 

[RedSector]

36 minutes ago, johndms said:

Dude, just drop it.

Sure for you, done.

 

Just wondering,

On subject of OP about Ryzen  Is this your view ?

[johndms]

1 minute ago, RedSector said:

Just wondering,

On subject of OP about Ryzen  Is this your view ?

I'm not really sure what he was trying to say. It sounds like what I usually recommend, though. Ryzen likes two sticks, not one. But that's not news. Dual Channel is the better choice.

 

Much of what he says is confusing. The ram examples he gave is too vague. example for ryzen =gskill RGB tridentz 3200 2*8. G.Skill can be made with Samsung or Micron chips.

[sm1le]

On 21.11.2017 at 9:52 AM, WereCat said:

that's not entirely true

PC will work just fine but the RAM bottleneck and infinity fabric bottleneck will become very apparent

Actually my Threadripper wont start or i've system crash after few minutes on dual channel ram.