General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Troika]

5 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Hmmmm. I have a few e-series westmere quads, I may be able to dig one up and test it then send it your way this weekend.

I'd rather not test with another xeon because I think that's what the issue is, I'd rather test with a standard i7 for the platform

[Ground]

16 hours ago, the pudding said:

or even an X58A-OC, arguably the best X58 board out there for sub zero clocking, can't find them at all, and if you can they're stupid expensive 

eh not really. Its good for 32nm multicore stuff, but for anything else (in my experience) even the Rampage II beats it easily. I've by now had several different x58a-ocs cold (still own a working and a dead one), and while they work well the main thing they have going for them is the great VRM they have. For 45nm benching Rampage II Extreme/Rampage III Black or worst case Rampage III Extreme are much easier to run and can usually get better results. I've done this score on a Rampage II Extreme on Cascade, can't get anywhere close to that with an x58a-oc with an otherwise identical setup. 

I've recently picked up a Foxconn Bloodrage to compare, haven't gotten around to test it properly. 

I did manage finding a really nice i7 920 on ambient, really hard to control on LN2, need to run it on cascade to see what it can actually do. 4.5/~1.2V seems to be my baseline for really nice 45nm chips since my W3520 does about the same. 

 

x58a-oc you can usually sell for 200+ on ebay btw. I usually get mine for far less on forums or classifieds.

 

Also have an x58a-GD65, Rampage II Extreme and Rampage III Extreme each with blown up VRMs in various boxes that I have to get fixed, spent a couple hours yesterday trying to get the second x58a-oc working again. Bloodrage, signed x58a-oc and R3E at least fully work. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

Migrated to the Define R5 today, wanted something a little bit more dust-proof than the modded G5.

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

She so pretty

 

Also featured: server and Ryzen

[Andreas Lilja]

4-5 PCs and never assembled myself. Local computer stores are very inexpensive. 

[LukeSavenije]

for all the x58 guys here... does recc and x5650 work?

[Zando_]

2 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

for all the x58 guys here... does recc and x5650 work?

Uh... is there any reason it wouldn't work? It's a full featured Xeon, pretty sure registered ECC RAM is an option exclusive to Xeons (and maybe AMD's alternative to that, IDK what they had for the DDR3 gen) and usually ran with Xeons (thus the abundance of it on eBay, they likely pulled it all from LGA1366 and LGA2011 servers) so I'm confused by the question. 

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

so I'm confused by the question. 

i didn't knew for sure if x58 had a limit on it or something, hence my question

 

my current board is a p series (iirc), that's why

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

i didn't knew for sure if x58 had a limit on it or something, hence my question

IIRC X58 does, it won't run registered ECC even with a Xeon, you need a server chipset. Unregistered ECC you can run fine, it just won't use ECC. 

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

my current board is a p series (iirc), that's why

What? Pretty sure the p series doesn't exist for LGA1366. You get X58 on HEDT mobos, 5520 on server mobos and the SR-2. 

 

Yours is 5520, and runs registered DIMMs, it says that right on the spec sheet: https://support.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c01713311

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 hour ago, Zando Bob said:

Uh... is there any reason it wouldn't work? It's a full featured Xeon, pretty sure registered ECC RAM is an option exclusive to Xeons (and maybe AMD's alternative to that, IDK what they had for the DDR3 gen) and usually ran with Xeons (thus the abundance of it on eBay, they likely pulled it all from LGA1366 and LGA2011 servers) so I'm confused by the question. 

As long as the board supports it, which most server boards will, it should be fine.

[the pudding]

4 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

for all the x58 guys here... does recc and x5650 work?

registered is server chipsets only, this is a limitation imposed by intel themselves, you can however, use normal ecc, anything ending with E will work fine, I personally am running 14900E stuff and it runs absolutely fine but registered won't work unfortunately, which is a shame since it's DIRT cheap 

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, the pudding said:

registered is server chipsets only, this is a limitation imposed by intel themselves, you can however, use normal ecc, anything ending with E will work fine, I personally am running 14900E stuff and it runs absolutely fine but registered won't work unfortunately, which is a shame since it's DIRT cheap 

^^^ Yep. Though in their sig it says they're running an HP server which has a 5520 mobo and even shipped with registered ECC (depending on the options you chose when ordering), so it'll run anything just fine, registered or not registered. 

[the pudding]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

^^^ Yep. Though in their sig it says they're running an HP server which has a 5520 mobo and even shipped with registered ECC (depending on the options you chose when ordering), so it'll run anything just fine, registered or not registered. 

ahh yeah in that case you're fine with registered, I hadn't spotted that 

[Slayer3032]

10 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

for all the x58 guys here... does recc and x5650 work?

Occasionally registered ecc memory will work on the X58 boards too, it's entirely up to chance if it works with your motherboard and it's completely unsupported and I have no idea if it actually functions as registered but sometimes they will function on an X58 board.

 

I'd also suggest trying to mix it with some more conventional cheap sticks to see if you can convince it to boot since sometimes memory just doesn't like to post out of the box. I have to toss in another stick to get my mac pro memory to boot at stock settings or it just gets stuck in a post loop. It's a total pain in the ass on Gigabyte boards since if you touch the power button or mash delete before it hits the post screen, you'll trigger "overclocking failed" and it will switch to the backup bios which won't boot and then you have to swap a stick out, boot into windows, shutdown fully and swap the stick back in.

[ulises31]

Hello,

I wanted to share my test. I can safely install nvme disks on my gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P motherboard (Rev 1.0) and usb 2.0 key.
 Sometimes with a 3.1 usb key, it was more complicated. 
I used the DUET_UDK2017_REFIND or the Clover Legacy. Generally, simpler with the duet no problem but if I used both software with a 3.1 usb key, 
it rarely worked.

Now I have another problem.

I want to use a SSD sata 6 m.2 ngff instead of a usb key. I bought this NVME adapter card NGFF turn PCIE3.0
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32756632370.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.2d836c37qiLicT

On this card, I can install a nvme disk (1TO) and a NGFF disk (120go).

With the software DUET_UDK2017_REFIND recognizes only the usb keys and with the Clover software does not work either.

Can someone help me please?
So, the idea is to install windows 10 on the nvme disk and to use the 120go NGFF disk as a usb key in order to install windows 10 on a nvme of my X58 motherboard.

NB: My maximum speeds are 1750mo / s and 1700mo / s.

One last question, why are all nvme disks nvme  x4? because they were X8 our motherboard could reach much higher speeds, right?

[Terabyte_272]

Hello has anyone tried Navi (Rx 5700 XT) on x58? I've seen that people say 1080s run just fine and the 5700 XT is somewhat comparable. Asking because my fury x has a bad vram chip so I'll have to upgrade some point in the near future. By then I'll have my x5675.

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 minutes ago, Terabyte_272 said:

Hello has anyone tried Navi (Rx 5700 XT) on x58? I've seen that people say 1080s run just fine and the 5700 XT is somewhat comparable. Asking because my fury x has a bad vram chip so I'll have to upgrade some point in the near future. By then I'll have my x5675.

I would imagine they'd be fine if cards as new as the 1080 are working.

[Terabyte_272]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

I would imagine they'd be fine if cards as new as the 1080 are working.

That's what I thought I've even seen that some mobos people have got 2080 cards working but they need overclocks to like 4.7ghz

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

25 minutes ago, Terabyte_272 said:

That's what I thought I've even seen that some mobos people have got 2080 cards working but they need overclocks to like 4.7ghz

Yeah, I'd imagine the only caveat would be bottlenecks.

[the pudding]

yeah people have been able to run 2080TI's on this platform without issues so i can't see why the 5800(XT) wouldn't work, i mean i'm running an overclocked vega 56 on mine and im not having any issues whether i run the cpu at 4.5GHz or 4.8GHz, the latter of which is what you see if you put X5670 and vega 56 through the 3dmark results page thing for firestrike as that's what I was running my cpu at to get the top score there 

[Troika]

As I suspected, all of my issues were solved once I socketed a i7 920 into my MSI X58 Big Bang Xpower. I even managed to dial in a 3.6 Ghz OC with legit no effort at all and its prime95 stable (ran it for an hour). My temps aren't great but that's cause I'm using some random garbo oem thermal paste that I didn't apply enough of just to do some quick testing. That said, my temps are under 80C but there's still some improvement that can be made.
 

Still, even at 3.6Ghz, it already beats my Phenom II X6 1090T at 4.16Ghz with 2000mhz ram. Just ignore the fact that the turbo somehow got reported at 6.4Ghz, dunno what caused that.

[Waqas409]

I'm running a Intel Xeon W3690 with GTX 1070 Ti and 240 GB Kingstone SSD as a boot drive and external HDD.
Its a beast when its comes to gaming and productivity.
I'd recommend this build as it is very cheap and very powerful. 
if anyone needs any benchmarks of any game, just let me know, i'll show you.

[Waqas409]

On 8/25/2019 at 11:52 PM, Terabyte_272 said:

Hello has anyone tried Navi (Rx 5700 XT) on x58? I've seen that people say 1080s run just fine and the 5700 XT is somewhat comparable. Asking because my fury x has a bad vram chip so I'll have to upgrade some point in the near future. By then I'll have my x5675.

 

Running a gtx 1070 Ti, i usually play single player games on 4k and online games on 2k or 1080p without any bottlenecks.

[the pudding]

all of these xeons tend to run the same clock for clock really, though personally I'd never really recommend the W3690 over the W3680 since both are unlocked still but much cheaper than the W3690 usually

[Waqas409]

On 8/27/2019 at 1:54 PM, the pudding said:

all of these xeons tend to run the same clock for clock really, though personally I'd never really recommend the W3690 over the W3680 since both are unlocked still but much cheaper than the W3690 usually

never a bad option if one gets for cheap