General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Ground]

E5649 is decent if you have a good board that can do high bclk easily. I'm dailying my E5649 at 20x224.5 (4.49 GHz) with 1.35V. (note that this is a good example of the chip, don't take those settings for granted) The 5 other 6 cores I had bought weren't nearly as good as this one (3x x5650, best one did 4.3 at 1.4V, 1x w3680 3.9 at 1.4V, 1x L5640 4.1 at 1.4V). At some point I wanna bin a handful of x5675s, but currently I don't have the budget to spare for that.

 

Cooler is a Thermalright Silver Arrow and MX2 thermal paste. If the E5649 is really that cheap everywhere I might buy a couple more myself to test

[MaratM]

2 hours ago, bimmerman said:

Nah, (way) too rich for my blood.

Gtx580 from the same era))) 4 gamers one on one rig 2010 edition)))

[Pasi123]

2 minutes ago, MaratM said:

Gtx580 from the same era))) 4 gamers one on one rig 2010 edition)))

That would be a good heater! 

[NoxiousOdor]

I think if I were to make a lan box out of my SR2 I would do it by getting single slot 1050tis. They are pretty decent in most games, they don't need a lot of power and they run cool. That and they are a lot cheaper than a bunch of other gpus.

[Zando_]

4 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

I think if I were to make a lan box out of my SR2 I would do it by getting single slot 1050tis. They are pretty decent in most games, they don't need a lot of power and they run cool. That and they are a lot cheaper than a bunch of other gpus.

They also run pretty much anything at 1080p60 on med/high, maybe even ultra. 

[bimmerman]

12 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

I think if I were to make a lan box out of my SR2 I would do it by getting single slot 1050tis. They are pretty decent in most games, they don't need a lot of power and they run cool. That and they are a lot cheaper than a bunch of other gpus.

Yep, I took a look at those. Newegg is out of stock but that might change in a bit.

 

If I go through with it, plan A is to test system on air and using existing GPUs lying around (aka HD 5870, 2x R9 290, 1080ti). Then if that works, look into throwing money at it.

[Crunchy Dragon]

21 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

2x R9 290

That's gonna be quite a space heater, the R9 cards weren't known for being terribly cold cards, especially the x90/x90X cards...

[bimmerman]

22 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

That's gonna be quite a space heater, the R9 cards weren't known for being terribly cold cards, especially the x90/x90X cards...

They're both aftermarket cards, but yea. They're what used to be in my and my buddy's X58 rigs, so the price (free!) was right.

[NoxiousOdor]

30 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

They're both aftermarket cards, but yea. They're what used to be in my and my buddy's X58 rigs, so the price (free!) was right.

That reminds me, I have heard that Unraid prefers Nvidia cards but I heard that a while back and things might have changed since then. It might be worth looking into though.

[bimmerman]

Apparently the SR-2 has many issues with GPU pass-through due to the pcie nf200 multiplexer chips. Doesn't seem like it is going to work without a ton of kludge.

 

Damn, was excited about the idea.

[NoxiousOdor]

Okay x58 people. As far as I know I am the only active user using the SR2 but I have seen that some of you have been considering one.

 

If any of you do get one you should know that I am looking to sell my custom copper waterblocks for the chipset and vrm. They were milled specifically for this board. If any of you are interested feel free to HMU. It isn't like there is a big market for these so they probably wont be going anywhere anytime soon.

[Crunchy Dragon]

35 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

I have seen that some of you have been considering one.

I'd love one personally, just can't afford one...

 

Those things are like 5-7 times the price of a normal working X58 board on Ebay.

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I'd love one personally, just can't afford one...

 

Those things are like 5-7 times the price of a normal working X58 board on Ebay.

But it's black and red and called the SR-2, and is about as awesome as the also black and red SR-71 Blackbird, just a lot cheaper than those are. 

[bimmerman]

@WhisperingKnickers Believe me, I want. I am just trying to figure out whether the SR-2 is going to work as a 3-4 gamer 1 tower kind of build. If it will, then oh hell yes watercooling.

Currently my research is resulting in a big fat "didn't work when this thing was new without lots of Linux kernel kludging, now it is old and no one seems to know/care"

 

The idea is to run unraid with 3-4 VMs with 3-4 GPUs passed through to each VM. Apparently the way EVGA did the PCIe is to use NF200 chips from Nvidia to multiply the lanes, which apparently breaks IOMMU / ASC groups that are utilized for GPU passthrough to the VMs. Unraid has a GUI utility to build VMs, so I won't have to spend as much time programming Linux, but I don't know whether they have a solution for the issue (something with IOMEM memory holes between 1-4gb? per google searching). I've asked the Unraid forums but no answer has come back yet.

I'm not quite sure how to test whether that will be an issue without saying screw it and buying one. If it doesn't work, that's $600+ down the drain that could've gone towards a threadripper that will work, but at 2-3x the cost. Hence why I'm on the fence.

 

(also: I am not pretending to understand the issue, this is me parroting back forum posts in the hope someone else does know)

[NoxiousOdor]

1 hour ago, bimmerman said:

@WhisperingKnickers Believe me, I want. I am just trying to figure out whether the SR-2 is going to work as a 3-4 gamer 1 tower kind of build. If it will, then oh hell yes watercooling.

Currently my research is resulting in a big fat "didn't work when this thing was new without lots of Linux kernel kludging, now it is old and no one seems to know/care"

 

The idea is to run unraid with 3-4 VMs with 3-4 GPUs passed through to each VM. Apparently the way EVGA did the PCIe is to use NF200 chips from Nvidia to multiply the lanes, which apparently breaks IOMMU / ASC groups that are utilized for GPU passthrough to the VMs. Unraid has a GUI utility to build VMs, so I won't have to spend as much time programming Linux, but I don't know whether they have a solution for the issue (something with IOMEM memory holes between 1-4gb? per google searching). I've asked the Unraid forums but no answer has come back yet.

I'm not quite sure how to test whether that will be an issue without saying screw it and buying one. If it doesn't work, that's $600+ down the drain that could've gone towards a threadripper that will work, but at 2-3x the cost. Hence why I'm on the fence.

 

(also: I am not pretending to understand the issue, this is me parroting back forum posts in the hope someone else does know)

I would love to help considering I do have the board but I don't have the gpus to be able to test

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

I would love to help considering I do have the board but I don't have the gpus to be able to test

send the board to me then cause I have like too many GPUs...

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 hour ago, Zando Bob said:

send the board to me then cause I have like too many GPUs...

I've got some as well that I could send your way.

[NoxiousOdor]

On 10/24/2018 at 4:21 PM, Zando Bob said:

send the board to me then cause I have like too many GPUs...

 

On 10/24/2018 at 6:13 PM, Crunchy Dragon said:

I've got some as well that I could send your way.

 

Make a donation to the Knickers Foundation

[SimplyChunk]

Hey peeps @Crunchy Dragon pointed me here after a post in the retro thread.  I've bought an i7-920.  I see it in CEX today and it was only a tenner and i mistaking thought it'd be a straight swap for the i5-650 in my H55 iTX board .  Could anyone point me towards an mATX board for it?  It's not going to do any heavy lifting.  I'm going to give it to my Uncle to upgrade him from his Pentium D.  All he does is a bit of web surfing and writing some music CDs for in his car.  I've had a look on ebay and branded boards are still fetching 100+  and Crunchy said that server boards are usually a bit cheaper but I wouldn't know where to start looking for one of those

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, YouSirAreADudeSir said:

Hey peeps @Crunchy Dragon pointed me here after a post in the retro thread.  I've bought an i7-920.  I see it in CEX today and it was only a tenner and i mistaking thought it'd be a straight swap for the i5-650 in my H55 iTX board .  Could anyone point me towards an mATX board for it?  It's not going to do any heavy lifting.  I'm going to give it to my Uncle to upgrade him from his Pentium D.  All he does is a bit of web surfing and writing some music CDs for in his car.  I've had a look on ebay and branded boards are still fetching 100+  and Crunchy said that server boards are usually a bit cheaper but I wouldn't know where to start looking for one of those

Welcome

 

Used markets are usually a really good way to go, especially for server or workstation hardware. The reason this hardware is cheaper is because datacenters and the like will usually upgrade their systems all at once, and the used market will flood with CPUs, RAM, and boards. Due to that kind of supply and demand, server hardware is dirt cheap, resulting in amazing bang for buck.

 

The main problem with server parts is that most of them aren't even ATX, but some ATX boards exist. It's gonna take a lot of hunting, but a good start would be heading over to Ebay or whatever and searching for "1366 server board" or something similar.

[Pasi123]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

Welcome

 

Used markets are usually a really good way to go, especially for server or workstation hardware. The reason this hardware is cheaper is because datacenters and the like will usually upgrade their systems all at once, and the used market will flood with CPUs, RAM, and boards. Due to that kind of supply and demand, server hardware is dirt cheap, resulting in amazing bang for buck.

 

The main problem with server parts is that most of them aren't even ATX, but some ATX boards exist. It's gonna take a lot of hunting, but a good start would be heading over to Ebay or whatever and searching for "1366 server board" or something similar.

Most likely server board wouldn't support the i7-920 because it wasn't meant to work in servers.

[SimplyChunk]

6 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Welcome

 

Used markets are usually a really good way to go, especially for server or workstation hardware. The reason this hardware is cheaper is because datacenters and the like will usually upgrade their systems all at once, and the used market will flood with CPUs, RAM, and boards. Due to that kind of supply and demand, server hardware is dirt cheap, resulting in amazing bang for buck.

 

The main problem with server parts is that most of them aren't even ATX, but some ATX boards exist. It's gonna take a lot of hunting, but a good start would be heading over to Ebay or whatever and searching for "1366 server board" or something similar.

See i found this one

 

I'll keep my fingers crossed.  I've asked about these chinese boards before on here and as long as you're not doing anything stupid with them they can be ok

[NoxiousOdor]

 

[Xa3phod]

My Xeon X5690 is finally in the U.S. Took forever for it to get here from China. Hope to have it in a few days. Funny, I just got upgraded my Wife from a Ryzen 3 to a Ryzen 1700. The Xeon X5670 actually does well against it.

[Xa3phod]

Ok, I got my X5690. I am surprised that I can't seem to overclock it as well as my X5670. Do I pump in a lot more voltage? I had the X5670 stable at 4.6Gghz. I managed to stabilize the X5690 at 4.5Ghz. The Cinebench score isn't great. I thought this thing was going to be a beast. Any suggestions?