HP wants you to know that they're still going to produce their flagship Windows 10 Phone through 2019

[AlTech]

HP wants you to know that they are still going to produce their flagship Windows 10 Phone through 2019.

 

This comes after rumors were spreading that HP would cancel the device after 1 year on the market. Due to how heavily the device has been advertised, I guess they still want to continue making money with it .

 

This is what HP had to say:

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HP is always responding to customer feedback to deliver the best product experiences. We remain committed to our mobility strategy and vision and will sell the Elite x3 through 2019 while continuing to enhance our portfolio delivering multi-OS devices, accessories and workflow transformation solutions. Mobility is an exciting and rapidly evolving area, and HP will continue to explore ways to address our customers' mobile computing needs.

 

This is what the original article had to say prior to HP affirming their position on the matter:

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It appears HP is planning to end sales of its flagship Windows 10 Mobile smartphone on November 1st, according to a new report. Windows United claims that on November 1, HP will stop selling the Elite x3 in stores, with support for the device ending almost a year later in October 2018.

 

Thankfully, HP is committed to Windows 10 Mobile as a platform since the shift towards making it more suitable for the Enterprise (as if it wasn't suitable enough already).

 

A refreshed model in 2018 with better specs would be nice but is not required.

 

Source:

Note: Article originally written based off of rumors that the Elite X3 would be killed off. Windows Central has updated the article to reflect HP's stance on the matter.

https://www.windowscentral.com/hp-may-kill-elite-x3-windows-10-mobile-later-year

[Nowak]

"through 2019"

 

Even though Windows 10 Mobile isn't on the roadmap beyond 2018? 

[AlTech]

Just now, Daring said:

"through 2019"

 

Even though Windows 10 Mobile isn't on the roadmap beyond 2018? 

Windows 10 Mobile Build 15063 will be supported until 2019 and Windows 10 Mobile Feature2 update is expected to be supported until 2020.

[Nowak]

Just now, AluminiumTech said:

Windows 10 Mobile Build 15063 will be supported until 2019 and Windows 10 Mobile Feature2 update is expected to be supported until 2020.

Ah.

[Hackentosher]

Okay but the real question we should be asking is Why is windows phone still alive?

[MSWindowsinside]

Just now, Hackentosher said:

Okay but the real question we should be asking is Why is windows phone still alive?

Somewhat because of enthusiasts like me, but mostly because some companies love them for their easy deployment and servicing. Especially because most companies already run entirely on Windows anyways.

[Mr.Meerkat]

Why doesn't HP just make a dual booting phone?  

[Sauron]

Interesting, I would want to hide that if I were in HP's shoes  

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Why doesn't HP just make a dual booting phone?  

Asus tried it with a tablet in the past, they were met with a cease and desist letter from both google and microsoft. Nowadays you can find some chinese noname devices that do it but a big brand like HP wouldn't be allowed to do that.

[AlTech]

13 minutes ago, Daring said:

Ah.

Oh and here's proof of that.

1st Date is start of support and second date is end of Mainstream support.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

Okay but the real question we should be asking is Why is windows phone still alive?

Windows Phone as you called it (e.g. Windows Phone 8.1) died in July. Windows 10 Phone is still alive because Microsoft can't afford to not have a presence in the mobile market. 

 

Enterprise and Businesses seem to like Windows Phones and the few consumers still with Windows Phones are hanging in there.

 

5 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Why doesn't HP just make a dual booting phone?  

That would be too expensive and idk if that's technically possible.

5 minutes ago, MSWindowsinside said:

Somewhat because of enthusiasts like me, but mostly because some companies love them for their easy deployment and servicing. Especially because most companies already run entirely on Windows anyways.

That is one reason.

[AlTech]

Just now, Sauron said:

Interesting, I would want to hide that if I were in HP's shoes  

HP actually made a comment a while back I think about how the device was selling better than anticipated.

 

 

[Hackentosher]

Just now, AluminiumTech said:

Windows Phone as you called it (e.g. Windows Phone 8.1) died in July. Windows 10 Phone is still alive because Microsoft can't afford to not have a presence in the mobile market. 

 

 

I disagree. Microcock's surface line of computers along with sales of Windows copies makes them a hell of a lot more money than Windows phones. Why do I say this? Because those to products actually have a market share. In the real world, how many times have you seen a Windows phone in the wild? Now compare that to the number of Surface Pros, Surface Books, and literally every non Apple laptop.

[AlTech]

2 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

I disagree. Microcock's surface line of computers along with sales of Windows copies makes them a hell of a lot more money than Windows phones. Why do I say this? Because those to products actually have a market share. In the real world, how many times have you seen a Windows phone in the wild? Now compare that to the number of Surface Pros, Surface Books, and literally every non Apple laptop.

When I said afford, I didn't mean in a monetary way.

 

It's well know that Windows 10 Phones aren't making Microsoft billions of dollars. They're not making huge bank off of them.

 

When I said afford, I meant that they can't not have a Phone presence now. If they pulled out of Phone now then they wouldn't be able to come back for a while if not forever.

[Sauron]

3 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

HP actually made a comment a while back I think about how the device was selling better than anticipated.

It would be interesting to see how many they anticipated to sell... I can't imagine it was many. But I guess there is some market for it in businesses that were on the nokia branded lumia devices.

[Hackentosher]

3 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

When I said afford, I meant that they can't not have a Phone presence now. If they pulled out of Phone now then they wouldn't be able to come back for a while if not forever.

And why not? I think they should cut their losses on the phone game and focus on what makes them money so they can win back some market share from Apple.

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Hackentosher said:

And why not? I think they should cut their losses on the phone game and focus on what makes them money so they can win back some market share from Apple.

They're not interested in giving up the mobile market. They want to be in charge of PC and Mobile.

Right now they're the dominant player in PC but not Mobile and that's a problem for them.

[Hackentosher]

2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

They're not interested in giving up the mobile market. They want to be in charge of PC and Mobile.

y tho

Spoiler

Right now they're the dominant player in PC but not Mobile and that's a problem for them.

Which is exactly why I think they should give up on the mobile market.

[AlTech]

3 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

y tho

Try writing off 1 Billion USD and then decide that you need a Mobile platform since innovation is happening in Mobile devices.

 

/s but seriously. a lot of innovation is happening on Mobile and not on PC

[Satisfoxy]

If Windows Mobile ME - 6 wasn't easy to deploy, neither is this.

[AlTech]

6 minutes ago, Satisfoxy said:

If Windows Mobile ME - 6 wasn't easy to deploy, neither is this.

Windows 10 Mobile is almost as easy to deploy as regular Windows 10 Desktop.

[Hackentosher]

19 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Windows 10 Mobile is almost as easy to deploy as regular Windows 10 Desktop.

Buuut why use it when IOS and Android have so much more 3rd party support and much much higher adoption rates?

[Nowak]

1 hour ago, MSWindowsinside said:

Somewhat because of enthusiasts like me

This isn't a charity. I'm sure Microsoft appreciates the fact that people like you are still hanging onto their mobile platform, I think it's painfully clear they don't care anymore. Also, enthusiast support is not enough to justify the existence of a product.

[LAwLz]

1 hour ago, MSWindowsinside said:

Somewhat because of enthusiasts like me, but mostly because some companies love them for their easy deployment and servicing. Especially because most companies already run entirely on Windows anyways.

The thing is though, Windows Phone can not integrate into AD, which is what the vast majority of businesses use.

So WP is not really any easier to deploy than Android or iOS. You will still need some MDM tool, and even Microsoft's own (Intune) works with Android and iOS.

 

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

Enterprise and Businesses seem to like Windows Phones and the few consumers still with Windows Phones are hanging in there.

Really? Got a source on that? Because none of the clients I have worked with uses Windows phones.

[AlTech]

21 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

Buuut why use it when IOS and Android have so much more 3rd party support and much much higher adoption rates?

Better Enterprise support, the GUI looks nicer and having one OS across devices is appealing to some people. Adoption rate is not a reason to choose an OS. Apps will hopefully die soon except for the ones that need to exist with PWAs coming soon.

 

PWAs will likely replace around 80-90% of existing "apps" and the real apps which can't be PWAs will be real apps.

[LAwLz]

4 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Better Enterprise support

How exactly?

 

5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

the GUI looks nicer

Subjective, and a lot of people will disagree.

 

5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

having one OS across devices is appealing to some people

But Windows 10 Mobile and Windows 10 desktop are not at all "one OS". ChromeOS and Android are more alike than Windows 10 Mobile and Windows 10 desktop.

And no, I do not care than they share the same kernel, nor do anyone except Microsoft employees. Sharing the same core does not make them the same OS.

 

9 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Apps will hopefully die soon except for the ones that need to exist with PWAs coming soon.

PWAs will likely replace around 80-90% of existing "apps" and the real apps which can't be PWAs will be real apps.

Mmmm, these "sour" grapes are delicious. Are you enjoying your salt block over there?

[Guest]

An x3(x4?) with an SD835 with 6/8GB of ram along with the future CShell and Andromeda OS version(Funny how both Google and Microsoft supposedly have the same internal name.)  and I might consider Windows Mobile again.