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Hey guys, i've been out of the pc building for a while so i'm not exactly sure what the current standards are

 

But basically i was wondering about upgrading my pc. My current setup (quite old, 8gb ram, i5-3570k, gtx 560ti) is not doing too badly but i was wondering if I can do better

 

Firstly, i'd want to ask if I'd even see a substantial change. I'm mainly a developer, I play some games every now and then (rocket league, dota, torchlight) but that's about it. Would upgrading help me much with compile times and such? (where the GPU is not considered for processing)

 

Other than that, I will be porting over my storage, some fans, and peripherals. If possible, I'd like a micro atx case/motherboard but not essential

 

Cheers!

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little help for you guys:

800 GBP = 870 EUR = 1 036 USD

 

(I guess its GBP,  correct me if I'm wrong op)

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5 minutes ago, marten.aap2.0 said:

little help for you guys:

800 GBP = 870 EUR = 1 036 USD

 

(I guess its GBP,  correct me if I'm wrong op)

no need to go convert prices, we have to use sites from his country anyways.

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18 minutes ago, Snortan said:

Hey guys, i've been out of the pc building for a while so i'm not exactly sure what the current standards are

 

But basically i was wondering about upgrading my pc. My current setup (quite old, 8gb ram, i5-3570k, gtx 560ti) is not doing too badly but i was wondering if I can do better

 

Firstly, i'd want to ask if I'd even see a substantial change. I'm mainly a developer, I play some games every now and then (rocket league, dota, torchlight) but that's about it. Would upgrading help me much with compile times and such? (where the GPU is not considered for processing)

 

Other than that, I will be porting over my storage, some fans, and peripherals. If possible, I'd like a micro itx case/motherboard but not essential

 

Cheers!

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I am not sure how big of a program you compile, but yes, you would see a significant improvement if you upgrade to an 8 core Ryzen. On the games you play, those are rather light ones, so it wouldn't matter much if you upgrade GPU or not, so just wait on GPU upgrade until GPU demands get lower and prices go down significantly. An SSD would be a good upgrade if you don't have one yet, but again, it is probably best to wait a little bit as SSD prices seem to have peaked and is going down at the moment.

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3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

micro-atx or mini-itx?

micro-atx, sorry. Fixed in the main post. But this is not a necessity, ATX would do fine.

 

Holding off on the GPU is a very good idea though! This might be my course of action and just focus on the £600 price range to save up for a GPU in the future. I'll be moving over my 512GB of SSD so will not need one.

 

If anyone has a build they made for another person previously that fits to me, i'd be happy to see some!

 

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1 minute ago, Snortan said:

Holding off on the GPU is a very good idea though! This might be my course of action and just focus on the £600 price range to save up for a GPU in the future. I'll be moving over my 512GB of SSD so will not need one.

that post was from another forumer, not me.

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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£267.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£73.99 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£119.50 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Mini Video Card  (£259.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£50.28 @ Box Limited) 
Other: Aria F3 (£21.18)
Total: £791.94
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What are your full specs? Case, psu, etc. included.

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Ryzen 8 core+mobo without vrm heatsinks is a big uh oh for me. It means you don't really want to oc, and with a 1700 you do...

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9 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

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These boards would be better:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dWL7YJ/asrock-ab350m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350m-pro4

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Ryzen 8 core+mobo without vrm heatsinks is a big uh oh for me. It means you don't really want to oc, and with a 1700 you do...

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These boards would be better:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dWL7YJ/asrock-ab350m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350m-pro4

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AB350m Pro4 is better than AB350m Pro4? xD

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AB350m Pro4 is better than AB350m Pro4? xD

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5 hours ago, Snortan said:

Hey guys, i've been out of the pc building for a while so i'm not exactly sure what the current standards are

 

But basically i was wondering about upgrading my pc. My current setup (quite old, 8gb ram, i5-3570k, gtx 560ti) is not doing too badly but i was wondering if I can do better

 

Firstly, i'd want to ask if I'd even see a substantial change. I'm mainly a developer, I play some games every now and then (rocket league, dota, torchlight) but that's about it. Would upgrading help me much with compile times and such? (where the GPU is not considered for processing)

 

Other than that, I will be porting over my storage, some fans, and peripherals. If possible, I'd like a micro atx case/motherboard but not essential

 

Cheers!

Here's my recommended computer build that will be more than sufficient for your needs.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£187.99 @ Box Limited) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming K3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£127.72 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£123.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£85.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 560 4GB PULSE Video Card  (£128.50 @ Box Limited) 
Case: Corsair - Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case  (£52.94 @ Box Limited) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Total: £786.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-04 19:46 BST+0100

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Storage -- 223 GB SanDisk Ultra II 240GB (SSD) -- 256 GB Crucial_CT275MX300SSD1 (SSD) -- 931 GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-00BN5A0 (SATA) -- 2794 GB BUFFALO External HDD USB Device
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3 hours ago, Buzzsaw said:

Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£94.43 @ Box Limited) 

GIGABYTE B350 BOARDS ARE BADDDDDD

3 hours ago, Buzzsaw said:

Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 560 4GB PULSE Video Card  (£128.50 @ Box Limited) 

You should be going for a higher end GPU rather than a higher end CPU.

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1 minute ago, JDE said:

GIGABYTE B350 BOARDS ARE BADDDDDD

You should be going for a higher end GPU rather than a higher end CPU.

If my brain is working, there are better cases for the price.

 

 

1. Where is YOUR proof that the Gigabyte B350 mainboards are bad?

2. Why does a developer need a high end graphics card? Explain yourself.

3. Not sure why you wondered if your brain was working. Why open the door for commentary on your brain?

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4 minutes ago, Buzzsaw said:

1. Where is YOUR proof that the Gigabyte B350 mainboards are bad?

There is a website with VRM reviews, I can't remember it's name right now but @dave_k does.

 

4 minutes ago, Buzzsaw said:

2. Why does a developer need a high end graphics card? Explain yourself.

Even if he doesn't need one, everyone else can fit a R7 1700 and at least a 1050 Ti in the budget.

 

5 minutes ago, Buzzsaw said:

3. Not sure why you wondered if your brain was working. Why open the door for commentary on your brain?

:D

 

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9 minutes ago, Buzzsaw said:

1. Where is YOUR proof that the Gigabyte B350 mainboards are bad?

2. Why does a developer need a high end graphics card? Explain yourself.

3. Not sure why you wondered if your brain was working. Why open the door for commentary on your brain?

Gigabyte AM4 boards have either very shitty VRM or BIOS issues, K7 had bios build where it pushed 1.8V into the CPU and already killed few Ryzens.

 

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Gigabyte AM4 boards have either very shitty VRM or BIOS issues, K7 had bios build where it pushed 1.8V into the CPU and already killed few Ryzens.

Where's the proof? I won't accept crappy Reddit stuff. Legit links to these proofs.

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Where's the proof? I won't accept crappy Reddit stuff. Legit links to these proofs.

This is very legit

Everyone uses it.

Even budzoid approved these information

You have to understand and know VRMs and mosfets otherwise this is just a group of letters and numbers for u.

4C10N is bad part

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/pga-am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html

 

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4 hours ago, Snortan said:

micro-atx, sorry. Fixed in the main post. But this is not a necessity, ATX would do fine.

 

Holding off on the GPU is a very good idea though! This might be my course of action and just focus on the £600 price range to save up for a GPU in the future. I'll be moving over my 512GB of SSD so will not need one.

 

If anyone has a build they made for another person previously that fits to me, i'd be happy to see some!

 

since your work is more of cpu intensive & your idea of holding the gpu is better felt to me. save up & pair gtx 1070/1080 or equivalent later would be overall perfect system for work & gaming experience as well. the psu selected here with ample headroom to fit even 1080ti later so you dont have to purchase psu 2nd time again. I will recommend not to pair b350 boards with ryzen 1700 to avoid any unnecessary headache . I excluded storage since you got one but get an optional Hdd if it requires. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£267.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£131.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£149.10 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£62.21 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£84.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £695.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Hey guys, sorry I got home late

 

So in the end I won't buy a graphics card until later. I've also just checked and I have a Cooler Master M600 RS-600-AMBA-D3 power supply, could I hold on to this?

 

I also decided I'll just go full atx case. But the question is, do I get the 1600x or the 1700? Is there any real benefit between the two? This is the only thing i need to decide. For everything else Fardin's build looks good

 

Cheers, I hope to order this by tomorrow!

 

LE: nvm, i have learnt that the 1600x is not very good. Any other last minute recommandations? I'm thinking of sticking with my old power supply

 

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