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HeLiOn PrImE
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Thanks for clearing it up for me, guys.

Hey there guys!

I hope I'm posting this in the right section. I've searched over the internet about this detail I see on today's motherboards, but honestly I didn't catch all the details.

A lot of gaming motherboards have the feature called Killer LAN. I've seen that you can monitor traffic and performance, but...are there any other advantages over a normal LAN port?

What exactly makes this thing stand out? Or better said, does it really stand out, or it's just a marketing thing? I've used the search function here, but I only found people reporting issues with it.

 

Soo...yeah... I'd appreciate a 1.01.

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It's software-optimized Atheros LAN chips with a fancy colour and a cool name. No benefit, and sometimes a disadvantage compared to Intel NICs.

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It sucks, get something with intel LAN instead.

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26 minutes ago, HeLiOn PrImE said:

Hey there guys!

I hope I'm posting this in the right section. I've searched over the internet about this detail I see on today's motherboards, but honestly I didn't catch all the details.

A lot of gaming motherboards have the feature called Killer LAN. I've seen that you can monitor traffic and performance, but...are there any other advantages over a normal LAN port?

What exactly makes this thing stand out? Or better said, does it really stand out, or it's just a marketing thing? I've used the search function here, but I only found people reporting issues with it.

 

Soo...yeah... I'd appreciate a 1.01.

Same reason why apple is better then PC.

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Killer LAN does a bit more work in hardware, where other LAN would use CPU cycles.

It uses more power.

It has more bugs, or a different set of bugs.

Its not worth the extra cost/performance.

 

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15 minutes ago, Marshnt said:

Same reason why apple is better then PC.

Better security and reliability? I don't see how that fits here.

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53 minutes ago, Marshnt said:

More money for the same result in the end.

And how does that in any way relate to

1 hour ago, Marshnt said:

why apple is better then PC.

 

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4 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

And how does that in any way relate to

 

You tell me, why a comparable MAC is more then a PC the ill tell you why killer is worth more then Intel or Broadcom.

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1 hour ago, Marshnt said:

You tell me, why a comparable MAC is more then a PC the ill tell you why killer is worth more then Intel or Broadcom.

1. Better Security

2. Better Reliability

3. Is UNIX based

4. Has a great coherent ecosystem

5. Comes with Pages, Numbers, Keynote, etc. instead of having to subscribe yearly.

6. Doesn't spy on your every move

7. Looks better

8. Is a status symbol

 

Now, please, tell me why killer is better.

 

And honestly, I don't want to derail this thread into a Mac vs PC flame war, so this will be my last post on this topic (of Macs vs. PCs).

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CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X w/PBO on (6c 12t for host, 6c 12t for guest)

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus X470-F Gaming

RAM: 32GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz (12GB for host, 20GB for guest)

GPU: Guest: EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 ULTRA Host: 2x Radeon HD 8470

PSU: EVGA G2 650W

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HDD: Guest: WD Caviar Blue 1 TB

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Other: White LED strip to illuminate the interior. Extra fractal intake fan for positive pressure.

 

unRAID server (Plex, Windows 10 VM, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 6.11.2

CPU: Ryzen R7 2700x @ Stock

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus Prime X470-Pro

RAM: 16GB G-Skill Ripjaws V + 16GB Hyperx Fury Black @ stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

SSD: Samsung 970 evo NVME 250GB, Samsung 860 evo SATA 1TB 

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity)

Case: Sillverstone GD08B

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

Details: 12GB ram, GTX 1080, USB card passed through to windows 10 VM. VM's OS drive is the SATA SSD. Rest of resources are for Plex, Duplicati, Spaghettidetective, Nextcloud, and game servers.

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6 hours ago, sazrocks said:

1. Better Security

2. Better Reliability

3. Is UNIX based

4. Has a great coherent ecosystem

5. Comes with Pages, Numbers, Keynote, etc. instead of having to subscribe yearly.

6. Doesn't spy on your every move

7. Looks better

8. Is a status symbol

 

Now, please, tell me why killer is better.

 

And honestly, I don't want to derail this thread into a Mac vs PC flame war, so this will be my last post on this topic (of Macs vs. PCs).

While this is off-topic, all of those points are anecdotal evidence of why it's better rather than quantitative. Number 6 is also a complete lie. The rest are objective.

 

On topic: I think it was originally marketed as one of those QoS programs with better LAN drivers to enable that... however I think now they just want to get rid of the stock they have and try use it as a selling point.

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On 9/3/2017 at 7:34 PM, edutechie said:

It's software-optimized Atheros LAN chips with a fancy colour and a cool name. No benefit, and sometimes a disadvantage compared to Intel NICs.

On 9/3/2017 at 7:41 PM, Enderman said:

It sucks, get something with intel LAN instead.

Can confirm; it's a marketing gimick that doesn't work properly. Both my desktop and Dell XPS 15 have Killer LAN / WiFi chipsets. In both cases I chose to nuke the Killer Management Software since it caused my connection to drop or flat out fail (have an IP but no connection) and only use the generic Atheros drivers that Windows provides for me.

 

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