Posted August 6, 2017 Hey guys, as the name suggests can a Pentilim run a pelt media server. thanks, BDunkz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 A modern Pentium? Sure. Transcoding isn't that hard on a chip. From the Plex recomendation page CPU Requirements The most basic thing to remember is that the more Plex apps you have playing content at the same time, the more CPU power you'll need. Generally speaking, if you have two Plex apps requiring transcoded content at the same time, that will require about twice the CPU processing power compared to if there was only one app playing content. If you want very basic minimum suggestions: No transcoding: Core 2 Duo 1.6GHz (NAS devices based on ARM or PowerPC processors should also be capable of at least one stream with no transcoding) Single 720p transcode: Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz Single 1080p transcode: Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz I have personally run plex on an Avatron Atom (8 core at 2.4ghz) with no issue. If you want to make things easyer save your media in a format that dosn't need to be transcoded on the remote device (x264 is a good one). Direct playback is your best friend, make sure it's enabled. ________ how many devices are you looking to allow streaming at once? What resolution for playback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dlog said: Transcoding isn't that hard on a chip. It really depends on what you're transcoding. "It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brain falls out." - Carl Sagan. "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you" - Edward I. Koch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, BDunkz said: Hey guys, as the name suggests can a Pentilim run a pelt media server. thanks, BDunkz 7 minutes ago, Dlog said: A modern Pentium? Sure. Transcoding isn't that hard on a chip. From the Plex recomendation page CPU Requirements The most basic thing to remember is that the more Plex apps you have playing content at the same time, the more CPU power you'll need. Generally speaking, if you have two Plex apps requiring transcoded content at the same time, that will require about twice the CPU processing power compared to if there was only one app playing content. If you want very basic minimum suggestions: No transcoding: Core 2 Duo 1.6GHz (NAS devices based on ARM or PowerPC processors should also be capable of at least one stream with no transcoding) Single 720p transcode: Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz Single 1080p transcode: Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz I have personally run plex on an Avatron Atom (8 core at 2.4ghz) with no issue. If you want to make things easyer save your media in a format that dosn't need to be transcoded on the remote device (x264 is a good one). Direct playback is your best friend, make sure it's enabled. ________ how many devices are you looking to allow streaming at once? What resolution for playback? and are you planning on recording shows using the dvr feature? i have a fx 8120 and it smashes my cpu if im streaming at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 Author 4 minutes ago, jarreddean said: and are you planning on recording shows using the dvr feature? i have a fx 8120 and it smashes my cpu if im streaming at the same time I'm not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, BDunkz said: I'm not sure have a think about data backup as well. try to squeeze that into the budget if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, jarreddean said: have a think about data backup as well. try to squeeze that into the budget if you can. This is my build so far https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KXbZbj this is probably my server. For plex, game servers and backups please help me make some improvements https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KXbZbj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, BDunkz said: This is my build so far https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KXbZbj this is probably my server. For plex, game servers and backups please help me make some improvements https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KXbZbj Bear this in mind(you can find this in the warning just above where your parts list starts): Quote Some Intel Z170 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Kaby Lake-S CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions. "It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brain falls out." - Carl Sagan. "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you" - Edward I. Koch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, BDunkz said: This is my build so far https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KXbZbj this is probably my server. For plex, game servers and backups please help me make some improvements https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KXbZbj whats your plan with the ssd's, and hdds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 Author 39 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said: Bear this in mind(you can find this in the warning just above where your parts list starts): Yes i know it was my old pc's mobo so i can flash the bios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 Author 34 minutes ago, jarreddean said: whats your plan with the ssd's, and hdds? Nothing it was just I query Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 dont think you will need 2 for your build, your could reduce it to one and save some money or even get just one 500gb ssd. if your really want the black drives keep them, however your could get cheaper 4gb hdds, then spend a bit more on the cpu. just an idea to save some $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 Author 22 minutes ago, jarreddean said: dont think you will need 2 for your build, your could reduce it to one and save some money or even get just one 500gb ssd. if your really want the black drives keep them, however your could get cheaper 4gb hdds, then spend a bit more on the cpu. just an idea to save some $$ Could you alar the parts list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 20 minutes ago, BDunkz said: Could you alar the parts list? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LLqJ3F have a look at this one? about $40 more and a quad core cpu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 5 hours ago, jarreddean said: and are you planning on recording shows using the dvr feature? i have a fx 8120 and it smashes my cpu if im streaming at the same time I'm running a Plex server on freenas with a phenom ii x6 and it's not breaking a sweat with dvr and live tv so kinda odd your newer 8 core is struggling. Main Rig: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/58641-the-i7-950s-gots-to-go-updated-104/ | CPU: Intel i7-4930K | GPU: 2x EVGA Geforce GTX Titan SC SLI| MB: EVGA X79 Dark | RAM: 16GB HyperX Beast 2400mhz | SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256gb | HDD: 2x Western Digital Raptors 74gb | EX-H34B Hot Swap Rack | Case: Lian Li PC-D600 | Cooling: H100i | Power Supply: Corsair HX1050 | Media Center: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/284546-living-room-gaming-pc-revamp-mini-itx-with-h80i-and-h55kraken-g10/ (in loving memory of amd 1969-2011) Pfsense Build (Repurposed for plex) https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/715459-pfsense-build/ Server Rack https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/929084-server-rack-upgrade/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 2 hours ago, ltguy said: I'm running a Plex server on freenas with a phenom ii x6 and it's not breaking a sweat with dvr and live tv so kinda odd your newer 8 core is struggling. Depends on your settings and how many people are using it. I generally have about 4 people remotely connected and transcoding is always high due to their devices. And I convert as it's records which uses a percentage of CPU power. I could be doing something incorrectly in terms of setting. What do u recommend? I find my CPU is up to 80% alot of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 Author 1 hour ago, jarreddean said: Depends on your settings and how many people are using it. I generally have about 4 people remotely connected and transcoding is always high due to their devices. And I convert as it's records which uses a percentage of CPU power. I could be doing something incorrectly in terms of setting. What do u recommend? I find my CPU is up to 80% alot of the time. I will only have 2-3 streams going at once. Will a pentilim suffice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, BDunkz said: I will only have 2-3 streams going at once. Will a pentilim suffice? A duel core will work however if you do anything else, such as record movies or convert them you may have some trouble. I think a quad core would definately future proof your server for any further features that Plex develops. Do you have Plex pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 Author 17 minutes ago, jarreddean said: A duel core will work however if you do anything else, such as record movies or convert them you may have some trouble. I think a quad core would definately future proof your server for any further features that Plex develops. Do you have Plex pass? I do not, at this point I'm only planning, how would I record movies and then upload them to the server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, BDunkz said: I do not, at this point I'm only planning, how would I record movies and then upload them to the server? You need a device call hd home run connect. It's around $200 from scorptec. Atm it's still in beta. Can play live tv on a few devices Android and iPhone and can record off there. All recordings automatically go into your Plex folder. Watch some videos on YouTube and see what you think. Good in capital cities in terms of the guide. Not so good in country areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 11 hours ago, jarreddean said: Depends on your settings and how many people are using it. I generally have about 4 people remotely connected and transcoding is always high due to their devices. And I convert as it's records which uses a percentage of CPU power. I could be doing something incorrectly in terms of setting. What do u recommend? I find my CPU is up to 80% alot of the time. You could try a GPU and offloading transcoding. it started with Intel HD graphics at first, but I believe it may have been extended now to include other GPU types. Its still a Beta feature iirc. 9 hours ago, BDunkz said: I will only have 2-3 streams going at once. Will a pentilim suffice? It's a Pentium not a pentilim or pentilium But a Pentium G4560 should be just fine - it has 4 Kaby Lake threads and can offload to the Intel IGP on the chip. Spoiler Desktop: Ryzen9 5950X | ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (Wifi) | EVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | 32GB (2x16GB) Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB Pro 3600Mhz | EKWB EK-AIO 360D-RGB | EKWB EK-Vardar RGB Fans | 1TB Samsung 980 Pro, 4TB Samsung 980 Pro | Corsair 5000D Airflow | Corsair HX850 Platinum PSU | Asus ROG 42" OLED PG42UQ + LG 32" 32GK850G Monitor | Roccat Vulcan TKL Pro Keyboard | Logitech G Pro X Superlight | MicroLab Solo 7C Speakers | Audio-Technica ATH-M50xBT2 LE Headphones | TC-Helicon GoXLR | Audio-Technica AT2035 | LTT Desk Mat | XBOX-X Controller | Windows 11 Pro Spoiler Server: Fractal Design Define R6 | Ryzen 3950x | ASRock X570 Taichi | EVGA GTX1070 FTW | 64GB (4x16GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000Mhz | Corsair RM850v2 PSU | Fractal S36 Triple AIO + 4 Additional Venturi 120mm Fans | 14 x 20TB Seagate Exos X22 20TB | 500GB Aorus Gen4 NVMe | 2 x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe | LSI 9211-8i HBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 6, 2017 Author 2 hours ago, Jarsky said: It's a Pentium not a pentilim or pentilium Spellings hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2017 13 hours ago, Jarsky said: You could try a GPU and offloading transcoding. it started with Intel HD graphics at first, but I believe it may have been extended now to include other GPU types. Its still a Beta feature iirc. looked into it. unfortunately support is non existent for alot of hardware (GPU's) atm. ill show you what streaming 4k is like on the cpu. Just incase you decide to transcode 4k at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2017 Author On 07/08/2017 at 7:29 PM, jarreddean said: looked into it. unfortunately support is non existent for alot of hardware (GPU's) atm. ill show you what streaming 4k is like on the cpu. Just incase you decide to transcode 4k at some point. Is this with a Pentium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 9, 2017 2 hours ago, BDunkz said: Is this with a Pentium? On 8/7/2017 at 9:29 PM, jarreddean said: looked into it. unfortunately support is non existent for alot of hardware (GPU's) atm. ill show you what streaming 4k is like on the cpu. Just incase you decide to transcode 4k at some point. I already can play some 4K via Plex but only some of it. They can take anywhere from 15% CPU to 100% and stutter. You'll probably find the more intensive ones are DTS audio or something like Dolby Atmos - they can put a significant strain on the CPU for transcoding, if you don't have a DTS compatible receiver. I use Kodi to DirectPlay all my 4K content since I have a DTS/TrueHD/Dolby Atmos receiver - so I do GPU decoding in Kodi with a 10 series card that keeps power usage much lower. I just use Plex for remotely streaming 720p/1080p content. Spoiler Desktop: Ryzen9 5950X | ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (Wifi) | EVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | 32GB (2x16GB) Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB Pro 3600Mhz | EKWB EK-AIO 360D-RGB | EKWB EK-Vardar RGB Fans | 1TB Samsung 980 Pro, 4TB Samsung 980 Pro | Corsair 5000D Airflow | Corsair HX850 Platinum PSU | Asus ROG 42" OLED PG42UQ + LG 32" 32GK850G Monitor | Roccat Vulcan TKL Pro Keyboard | Logitech G Pro X Superlight | MicroLab Solo 7C Speakers | Audio-Technica ATH-M50xBT2 LE Headphones | TC-Helicon GoXLR | Audio-Technica AT2035 | LTT Desk Mat | XBOX-X Controller | Windows 11 Pro Spoiler Server: Fractal Design Define R6 | Ryzen 3950x | ASRock X570 Taichi | EVGA GTX1070 FTW | 64GB (4x16GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000Mhz | Corsair RM850v2 PSU | Fractal S36 Triple AIO + 4 Additional Venturi 120mm Fans | 14 x 20TB Seagate Exos X22 20TB | 500GB Aorus Gen4 NVMe | 2 x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe | LSI 9211-8i HBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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