Posted July 28, 2017 So I started ordering parts for my new water cooled sli gaming build and have thus far received my 900d, evga supernova 1200 and ordered a binned 5.2ghz 7700k. Was about to order my ram and mobo, but am having second thoughts on the 7700k vs waiting for coffee lake. Will coffee lake possibly have more pcie lanes? Will the 6 cores actually perform better then the 4 core 7700k? The clock speeds of coffee lake that leaked actually look like they wont be better then the 7700k. Is clock speed still king when it comes to gaming? I thought that most games are not even utilizing multi cores so is it possible the 7700k will still beat out coffee lake chips in the gaming department? We all saw intels claims of 30% faster. Is that believable? So many questions which make this decision really hard for me. I am trying to do a 1080ti sli watercooled build in a 900d. Any help,opinions, or advice is greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, SiCkHiTrEg said: We all saw intels claims of 30% faster. Is that believable? No. Look the i7 8700k will be an i7 7700k with 2 extra cores, that's all. If you can wait for it all the better if not the i7 7700k is still fine but for 1080ti SLI I would go with a Ryzen 7 chip (personally I'd get the 1800x but the 1700 OC'ed is fined too). Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said: No. Look the i7 8700k will be an i7 7700k with 2 extra cores, in theory, that's 30% faster they dont lie to you, they just bend the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 28, 2017 Author Oh so since it has 6 cores instead of 4 cores they are saying 30% faster. I would like to stay away from AMD also. The decision at hand is that I ordered a 5.2ghz binned 7700k already and have 14 days to return it. The reason I ordered it was because I kept reading that coffee lake was getting pushed back to feb 2018. Also the clock speed on the leaked coffee lake cpu's seemed rather low and I am not sure if that is due to more cores etc... But when it comes to gaming is coffeelake 8700k going to beat out a 5.2ghz 7700k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 28, 2017 What are you planning to do that needs more PCIe lanes? If you don't have a use case of "I need 6 cores" right now then you don't need 6 cores. It can have arguable "future proofing" benefits, but are you planning on not upgrading again for 4 years? We aren't going to see much if any of an IPC improvement of Coffeelake, it's just more cores at possibly the same clock speeds as Kaby Lake (14nm++). You can ignore "buy Ryzen" because you don't need 8 slow cores. Workstation: 14700nonk || Asus Z790 ProArt Creator || MSI Gaming Trio 4090 Shunt || Crucial Pro Overclocking 32GB @ 5600 || Corsair AX1600i@240V || whole-house loop. LANRig/GuestGamingBox: 9900nonK || Gigabyte Z390 Master || ASUS TUF 3090 650W shunt || Corsair SF600 || CPU+GPU watercooled 280 rad pull only || whole-house loop. Server Router (Untangle): 13600k @ Stock || ASRock Z690 ITX || All 10Gbe || 2x8GB 3200 || PicoPSU 150W 24pin + AX1200i on CPU|| whole-house loop Server Compute/Storage: 10850K @ 5.1Ghz || Gigabyte Z490 Ultra || EVGA FTW3 3090 1000W || LSI 9280i-24 port || 4TB Samsung 860 Evo, 5x10TB Seagate Enterprise Raid 6, 4x8TB Seagate Archive Backup || whole-house loop. Laptop: HP Elitebook 840 G8 (Intel 1185G7) + 3080Ti Thunderbolt Dock, Razer Blade Stealth 13" 2017 (Intel 8550U) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 28, 2017 OP go for the 7700k, it's the best gaming CPU on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said: OP go for the 7700k, it's the best gaming CPU on the market. I agree, even with your 1080 ti sli, the 7700k will be fine, I don't the feel the additional lanes is worth worrying about, I stuck my friends 1080ti in my rig and ran it at 2x8lanes. The performance was awesome. On a side note, are we thinking that the 7800k will work in our 270 chipset with a bios mod. If so, my plan is to use my 7700k for a bit and then go for a 7800k once bios's are updated. CPU: Intel Core i7-7700k @ 4.8ghz | Motherboard: GIGABYTE Gaming Z270XP-SLI | Graphics Card: AORUS GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti | RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3200mz |Storage: 1 x Samsung 250GB 960 Evo PCIe NVMe | 2 x Seagate 1TB [raid1] - overflow stuff | 2 x Samsung 850 EVO 500gb [raid0] - games | PSU: Corsair CX750M | Case: Corsair 400C | Cooling: Kraken x62 AIO | 3 x Corsair AF140 | 1x Noctua NF-F12 | Sound: Soundblaster Zx through KRK Rokit G5 monitors To be updated... when I get time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 28, 2017 19 minutes ago, chris cooper said: I agree, even with your 1080 ti sli, the 7700k will be fine, I don't the feel the additional lanes is worth worrying about, I stuck my friends 1080ti in my rig and ran it at 2x8lanes. The performance was awesome. On a side note, are we thinking that the 7800k will work in our 270 chipset with a bios mod. If so, my plan is to use my 7700k for a bit and then go for a 7800k once bios's are updated. Not sure about this. But it would be very nice indeed to have that option. But I doubt Intel would do such a nice gesture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 28, 2017 Author No matter how much I read I still don't know what to do . The toughest thing I think is that if I knew coffee lake was coming in August its an easy wait, but nobody knows. And if its pushed back to 2018 7700k is easy pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 28, 2017 Actually, I don't think that you could feel the difference between Kaby and Coffee Lake. Ofc, they would say: 30% faster, but in reality it may be about 15-20% faster in bechmarks. Nothing else. For gaming I think that Kaby Lake i7-7700K is a nice choice. PS. I have one i7-7700K, OC to 5,1 and cooled with Thermaltake Watercooling system with 3 RGB fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 28, 2017 Yeah I know the feeling, but that's part of the fun with PC's, doing all the research, reading the reviews, looking at benchmarks. I spent a good month or so decided my options when I did my recent upgrade. CPU: Intel Core i7-7700k @ 4.8ghz | Motherboard: GIGABYTE Gaming Z270XP-SLI | Graphics Card: AORUS GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti | RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3200mz |Storage: 1 x Samsung 250GB 960 Evo PCIe NVMe | 2 x Seagate 1TB [raid1] - overflow stuff | 2 x Samsung 850 EVO 500gb [raid0] - games | PSU: Corsair CX750M | Case: Corsair 400C | Cooling: Kraken x62 AIO | 3 x Corsair AF140 | 1x Noctua NF-F12 | Sound: Soundblaster Zx through KRK Rokit G5 monitors To be updated... when I get time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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