Intel Skylake SP 8176 Review vs AMD Epyc 7601

[VerticalDiscussions]

3 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

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LOL, the precious metal marketing hype again!

 

The box art looks dope, but naming something like "Xeon platinum" and "Xeon gold" is so cringy... just like the 80 plus rating, which has titanium coming after platinum (a metal hundreds of times more common xD).

 

 

[NumLock21]

29 minutes ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

LOL, the precious metal marketing hype again!

 

The box art looks dope, but naming something like "Xeon platinum" and "Xeon gold" is so cringy... just like the 80 plus rating, which has titanium coming after platinum (a metal hundreds of times more common xD).

 

 

Forget about putting these into a motherboard. Now you can rock them on your neck, with a gold chain!

 

On the a serious side, they don't come with coolers. just like X99 and X299, but for those we know where to get them. These on the other hand, there are no coolers for out on the market yet available for purchase. The only cooling company to ever show off some was Noctua, but that was in 2016 and it's a prototype. This year's Computex, that cooler is missing or no one took newer pictures of it?

 

 

 

[viggy96]

On 7/11/2017 at 1:06 PM, The Benjamins said:

the 8176 that is being tested it $8000~ and the 8160 is $4700. basically if you are using databases or HPC stuff (AVX 2/512) use intel otherwise AMD seems to be better.

Their database test was flawed. They used a dataset whose entirety would fit inside the L3 caches of these CPUs. Because of the non-uniform nature of EPYC's non-unified L3 cache, EPYC didn't have a good showing in that test. However, in a real dataset that is huge, that wouldn't completely fit inside L3 cache, the lead that the Skylake chip would close significantly. 

[Taf the Ghost]

AMD has like .3-.4% market share in the server space. Getting up to 3% would be massive for them.

[VerticalDiscussions]

8 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

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Maybe their supposed to be used raw, so that you can see the gold and platinum on them after all.

 

Hopefully the head spreader is made of unobtainium so that it doesnt need fans or water blocks to work with .

 

Not to mention... at 8000$+, maybe whoever buys them could have the means to make custom cooling solutions xD.

[cj09beira]

21 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

One of the discussion points is that part of the Ryzen launch issues is that AMD closed off that ability for motherboard makers at the last minute. So, hopefully, when we get a new IMC with the next Ryzen revision, they'll open up access to them.

 

@leadeater The fact companies now have something to test against is just good overall. I'm still followed that CPUs became exciting again for the first time in ages.

You mean ryzen 2 or ryzen step 2. If it's the latter will we have a new imc ?? The info I have seen only points to silicon bug fixes on some instructions

[leadeater]

7 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

AMD has like .3-.4% market share in the server space. Getting up to 3% would be massive for them.

One sale is one more than they are currently getting. You can't even buy a new AMD server right now, something that seems to be a little lost on people. It's a situation where AMD can't actually sell any worse than they are now lol.

[Valentyn]

Oh intel! First they try and slate Epyc for the NUMA clustering, implying it's inferior; then put out an optimization manual that says to do the same for best local latency.
 

 

[Taf the Ghost]

40 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

You mean ryzen 2 or ryzen step 2. If it's the latter will we have a new imc ?? The info I have seen only points to silicon bug fixes on some instructions

There's a current Zen revision coming, but we know nothing about it right now. And we don't know what "14nm+" is either, but it was on AMD's slides about their CPU roadmap. An improved IMC would be really valuable in a refresh, but we'll have to wait until next year, probably, to find out.

18 minutes ago, leadeater said:

One sale is one more than they are currently getting. You can't even buy a new AMD server right now, something that seems to be a little lost on people. It's a situation where AMD can't actually sell any worse than they are now lol.

I thought they still sold some ARM servers? Almost none, but some oddities in the space. Anyway, I expect them to have some pull in parts of China (as that seems a bigger market for AMD than others) and with something like the Dell turn-key solutions.