GTX 980Ti or GTX 1070

[RhysMusique]

Hey guys!

I was thinking of upgrading my GPU from a GTX 760. 
 

My two options are:
GTX 980Ti (used) for £250
GTX 1070 (new) for £350

Both have very similar Pass Mark benchmarks, but the 980Ti edges it. 1070 has more VRAM though... 
Which one would you choose? And is the £100 extra for the Pascal card worth it over the 980Ti?

(Rest of my system is: 3570K @ 4.2GHz, 16GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM, RM850 PSU, Z77 Motherboard)

[WereCat]

Get the 980ti, they perform very similarly and for  £100 difference the 1070 is not worth the 5%-10% more performance.

[Rupe]

I would be careful buying used as it will have on average a reduced lifespan. The fact its new and is slightly more powerful for games I would go for the 1070  and just take the financial hit

[Nicnac]

but think of the lower tdp! 

.... jk

[xAcid9]

+£100 is alot, not worth it if the 980 Ti come with good cooler, if reference 980 Ti then go for 1070.

[JoostinOnline]

I would absolutely go for the 980 Ti.

[RhysMusique]

2 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

+£100 is alot, not worth it if the 980 Ti come with good cooler, if reference 980 Ti then go for 1070.

The card's an ASUS Strix i believe. So cooler would be totally fine. 

 

 

[Hunter-97-G]

Be sure that the 980 Ti funcions perfectly before buying it. If you cant, 1070.

[xAcid9]

2 hours ago, RhysMusique said:

The card's an ASUS Strix i believe. So cooler would be totally fine. 

 

 

The Strix is almost mediocre cooler i believe on 980 Ti.

[30op]

The 1070 is more power efficient so it can be smaller, also it should oc better compared to the 980ti due to cooling being a lot better (because of the power efficiency)

 

Also the 1070 will have a warranty and you will know that it has been in a box straight from a factory, whereas the 2nd hand one could have been running on a high voltage and been overclocked running 24/7 in a taped up cardboard box.  

[maartendc]

Just now, 30op said:

The 1070 is more power efficient so it can be smaller, also it should oc better compared to the 980ti due to cooling being a lot better (because of the power efficiency)

 

Also the 1070 will have a warranty and you will know that it has been in a box straight from a factory, whereas the 2nd hand one could have been running on a high voltage and been overclocked running 24/7 in a taped up cardboard box.  

You are right that the 1070 is more power efficient. However, you state that the 1070 should OC better. This is not true. The Maxwell and Pascal Nvidia cards are really held back by their power limits and just the chip not being able to handle higher clocks, not by temperatures. My 980Ti doesnt go over 60 degrees C, yet I cannot overclock it any further than it is. Its really the luck of the draw that determines whether your chip overclocks well, either 980Ti or 1070.

 

I would get the 980Ti. The 980Ti even performs 2% better. The VRAM won't really be an issue any time soon. Most games still use under 4GB, the 980TI has 6GB.

 

That's a big price difference anyway, I would get the cheaper of the 2.

 

I guess it depends on the OP's tolerance for risk for used hardware. There is the risk that the card breaks 2 months into its use, and you don't have warranty.. It is always a gamble.

[maartendc]

4 hours ago, RhysMusique said:

Hey guys!

I was thinking of upgrading my GPU from a GTX 760. 

I went from a 760 to a 980ti myself, really nice upgrade. 1070 is a great card too. I would just get the cheaper of the two, if you don't mind going with used hardware and gambling on the warranty issue.

[TheSuspect]

Depends if you're comfortable buying used, not to mention that a 980ti is a more power hungry card. 

[MicrowavedGerbil]

I would get the 980Ti. I don't think the 1070 is worth it for an extra $100

[Princess Luna]

I would personally go for the 980ti

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, 30op said:

also it should oc better compared to the 980ti due to cooling being a lot better (because of the power efficiency)

You're very wrong the 980ti is by all means a much superior overclocker, not to mention the performance scale from overclock is much higher.

[jjohnthedon1]

5 hours ago, WereCat said:

Get the 980ti, they perform very similarly and for  £100 difference the 1070 is not worth the 5%-10% more performance.

Both oced the 980ti is faster and at 1500mhz it's on par with a stock 1080

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

at some point i had both a 980ti strix and a GTX 1070 MSI gaming X and the GTX 980ti overclocked to 1450mhz and the 1070 overclocked to 2050mhz and the 980ti was faster across the board...around 10% faster, sure it does run quite a bit hotter and has 2gb less VRAM though, but honestly if you need the performance the 980ti is worth it over a 1070, especially if it's cheaper.

[i_build_nanosuits]

5 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Both oced the 980ti is faster and at 1500mhz it's on par with a stock 1080

 

no no no, 1500mhz is faster than an overclocked GTX 1070 but nowhere near as fast as a stock 1080...a stock 1080 boost to 1800 to 1900mhz on it's own and is around 25% faster than a GTX 1070...so even if you'd overclock the GTX 980ti to 1550mhz it would still be quite a bit slower than a stock

1080.

 

1080 >> 980ti > 1070

 

compairing a 980ti to a 1080 honestly is pushing it a fair bit, these cards are in different leagues, i know i owned both.

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

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It still makes me upset all these 980ti's getting ditched for 1080's and 1080ti's without true need, I seen people with even 1080p 144hz or 1440p 60hz do the switch for barely noticeable difference in graphical quality on their games.

 

Meanwhile my TITAN XM at 1582mhz core clock is driving me perfectly fine for Volta [:

 

Will drop quite the $ though, planning to upgrade from 1080p ultrawide to 1440p ultrawide and throw a TITAN XV on it, should be enough for the next 5 years at least

[jjohnthedon1]

6 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

no no no, 1500mhz is faster than an overclocked GTX 1070 but nowhere near as fast as a stock 1080...a stock 1080 boost to 1800 to 1900mhz on it's own and is around 25% faster than a GTX 1070...so even if you'd overclock the GTX 980ti to 1550mhz it would still be quite a bit slower than a stock

1080.

 

1080 >> 980ti > 1070

 

compairing a 980ti to a 1080 honestly is pushing it a fair bit, these cards are in different leagues, i know i owned both.

I don't have Experian e with both just what Iv heard,

a oced 980ti should be loads better than a 1070 tho 

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

a oced 980ti should be loads better than a 1070 tho 

Actually no, as the owner of the second fastest 1070 on the Superposition leaderboard I can tell you that I'm only 9 points off a 980Ti I wouldn't call that 'loads better' 

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jvq_--P35FbqY8Iv_jn3YZ_7iP1I_hR0_vk7DjKsZgI/edit#gid=0 (I'm rank 39) 

[WereCat]

18 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Both oced the 980ti is faster and at 1500mhz it's on par with a stock 1080

 

no

 

[jjohnthedon1]

8 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Actually no, as the owner of the second fastest 1070 on the Superposition leaderboard I can tell you that I'm only 9 points off a 980Ti I wouldn't call that 'loads better' 

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jvq_--P35FbqY8Iv_jn3YZ_7iP1I_hR0_vk7DjKsZgI/edit#gid=0 (I'm rank 39) 

Ok let's compare that to the fastest 980ti because some 980tis have gone up to 1900mhz 

[xAcid9]

49 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Actually no, as the owner of the second fastest 1070 on the Superposition leaderboard I can tell you that I'm only 9 points off a 980Ti I wouldn't call that 'loads better' 

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jvq_--P35FbqY8Iv_jn3YZ_7iP1I_hR0_vk7DjKsZgI/edit#gid=0 (I'm rank 39) 

You referring to my 4016 score? My 980 Ti only clock at 1430mhz in that benchmark.