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6 minutes ago, Roy Azami said:

yes

Asus GTX 1070 DUAL 8GB OC GDDR5 DVI 2xHDMI 2xDP PCI-E - 482$

Asus GTX 1070 DUAL 8GB GDDR5 DVI 2xHDMI 2xDP PCI-E - 487$

Asus GTX 1070 FOUNDERS EDITION 8GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI 3xDP PCI-E -497$

Asus GTX 1070 TURBO 8GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI 3xDP PCI-E - 522$

Asus GTX 1070 ROG Strix 8GB GDDR5 DVI 2xHDMI 2xDP PCI-E - 536$

Asus GTX 1070 ROG Strix 8GB OC GDDR5 DVI 2xHDMI 2xDP PCI-E - 557$

 

these are all the versions i could find

Get Asus Dual OC (11gbps), it's still good enough

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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Just now, ZM Fong said:

Get Asus Dual, it's still good enough

which one of them xD or it doesnt matter ?

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Just now, Roy Azami said:

which one of them xD or it doesnt matter ?

The OC one (11gbps)

Doesn't matter much actually but since it's slightly cheaper, get the Dual OC

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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@ZM Fong

‏AMD Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz AM4 - Box‎

 
    ‏Asus Prime B350-PLUS AM4, AMD B350, DDR4, 2xPCI-E, VGA, DVI, HDMI‎  
    ‏HyperX FURY 8GB DDR4 2400Mhz CL15 Kit‎  
    ‏Asus GTX 1070 DUAL 8GB OC GDDR5 DVI 2xHDMI 2xDP PCI-E‎  
    ‏Corsair 550W Active PFC Modular 80+ Gold CS550M PSU‎  
   

‏Corsair SPEC-01 Red LED Mid-Tower Gaming Case No PSU‎

 

so this is the final specs i guess thats even under budget so if there's a critic upgrade i can do it

 
   
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Id reccomend this

CPU: Ryzen 1700
MOBO: Asus Prime B350-plus
GPU: (same)
RAM: (same)
PSU: (same)

 

with a small overclock it will sit right between the 7700 and 7700K and have enough cores to last years.

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2 minutes ago, matthew007800 said:

Id reccomend this

CPU: Ryzen 1700
MOBO: Asus Prime B350-plus
GPU: (same)
RAM: (same)
PSU: (same)

 

with a small overclock it will sit right between the 7700 and 7700K and have enough cores to last years.

He has limited budget as mentioned earlier

 

5 minutes ago, Roy Azami said:

@ZM Fong

‏AMD Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz AM4 - Box‎

 
    ‏Asus Prime B350-PLUS AM4, AMD B350, DDR4, 2xPCI-E, VGA, DVI, HDMI‎  
    ‏HyperX FURY 8GB DDR4 2400Mhz CL15 Kit‎  
    ‏Asus GTX 1070 DUAL 8GB OC GDDR5 DVI 2xHDMI 2xDP PCI-E‎  
    ‏Corsair 550W Active PFC Modular 80+ Gold CS550M PSU‎  
   

‏Corsair SPEC-01 Red LED Mid-Tower Gaming Case No PSU‎

 

so this is the final specs i guess thats even under budget so if there's a critic upgrade i can do it

 
   

Yeah looks good

16GB RAM right?

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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Just now, ZM Fong said:

He has limited budget as mentioned earlier

 

Yeah looks good

16GB RAM right?

yes its 8GB + 8GB just cheaper than 16GB 1 stick 

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Just now, Roy Azami said:

@ZM Fong @matthew007800 @shaharazu @keenhydra

 

Thank you so much guys ! 

Especially Fong :)

and everyone i forgot.

 

Helped me a a lot!!

Welcome

Feel free to ask me questions by PM me. I will try my best to answer them

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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1 hour ago, shaharazu said:

1080X1920

im live in israel 

my budget are 1391$

they spec that in my post cost 1252$

i want to an online games like csgo smite toda PUBG  etc

 

 

The PC doesn't need to be that good, but if you want to future-proof it (basically make it able to run more intensive stuff that will probably be released in the future without needing to buy a new computer), the PC is pretty good.

 

However, if you don't mind getting a new computer, then i would suggest a cheaper computer, as that computer is overkill (overkill = waaaaay too much "horsepower" for what you actually need.) 

Ryzen 7 3700X / 16GB RAM / Optane SSD / GTX 1650 / Solus Linux

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1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

The PC doesn't need to be that good, but if you want to future-proof it (basically make it able to run more intensive stuff that will probably be released in the future without needing to buy a new computer), the PC is pretty good.

 

However, if you don't mind getting a new computer, then i would suggest a cheaper computer, as that computer is overkill (overkill = waaaaay too much "horsepower" for what you actually need.) 

look at the final specs i posted, as the guys here suggested.

you're saying its an overkill for gaming + streaming / GNS3 Lab (which needs cpu power + ram)?

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6 minutes ago, Roy Azami said:

look at the final specs i posted, as the guys here suggested.

you're saying its an overkill for gaming + streaming / GNS3 Lab (which needs cpu power + ram)?

Not overkill, it's perfectly good

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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3 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Not overkill, it's perfectly good

I thought it was for gaming only. I suggested to get a cheaper build because the games that he played only needed a i3 or a i5, and a weaker graphics card too (a GTX 1070 for CSGo and Smite? Like, only if you want to future-proof it...)

Ryzen 7 3700X / 16GB RAM / Optane SSD / GTX 1650 / Solus Linux

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2 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

I thought it was for gaming only. I suggested to get a cheaper build because the games that he played only needed a i3 or a i5, and a weaker graphics card too (a GTX 1070 for CSGo and Smite? Like, only if you want to future-proof it...)

i3 is dead when there is Pentium G4560

i5 is also dead when there are Ryzen 5 CPUs

 

I did tell him to get RX 480/580 or GTX 1060 6GB.

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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1 minute ago, ZM Fong said:

i3 is dead when there is Pentium G4560

i5 is also dead when there are Ryzen 5 CPUs

 

I did tell him to get RX 480/580 or GTX 1060 6GB.

 

"i3 is dead when there is Pentium G4560"

The benchmarks are roughly the same; however, the Pentium has fewer features, such as:

  • You can't overclock (except for Anniversary Edition)
  • The maximum RAM clock speed limit is lower (before Skylake, this also impacts the CPU and GPU)
  • Etcetera/etc.

"i5 is also dead when there are Ryzen 5 CPUs"

 

I can agree with you on that; but just for gaming, you absolutely won't need a Ryzen CPU. Besides, you should spend much more on the GPU and RAM than the CPU.

 

"I did tell him to get RX 480/580 or GTX 1060 6GB"

 

No problem for his purposes.

 

 

 

 

Ryzen 7 3700X / 16GB RAM / Optane SSD / GTX 1650 / Solus Linux

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18 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

"i3 is dead when there is Pentium G4560"

The benchmarks are roughly the same; however, the Pentium has fewer features, such as:

  • You can't overclock (except for Anniversary Edition)
  • The maximum RAM clock speed limit is lower (before Skylake, this also impacts the CPU and GPU)
  • Etcetera/etc.

"i5 is also dead when there are Ryzen 5 CPUs"

 

I can agree with you on that; but just for gaming, you absolutely won't need a Ryzen CPU. Besides, you should spend much more on the GPU and RAM than the CPU.

 

"I did tell him to get RX 480/580 or GTX 1060 6GB"

 

No problem for his purposes.

Onlt 7350K can overclock. Who needs i3 7350K when there are i5 and Ryzen 5

 

Maximum RAM speed for G4560 and Kaby Lake i3 (not talking about the 7350K, it's a VERY VERY bad CPU for its price) is 2400MHz

 

Games will begin to use more cores and threads in future so Ryzen 5 is worth it and i5 will suck after a few years, moreover Ryzen CPUs provide stabler framerates

 

He wants to do streaming so a decent CPU is a must, can't cheap out on that

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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31 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

i3 is dead when there is Pentium G4560

i5 is also dead when there are Ryzen 5 CPUs

 

I did tell him to get RX 480/580 or GTX 1060 6GB.

i5's aren't really dead. USED i5-2400 iwht used LGA 1155 MOTHERBOARD?! WITH A GOOD GRAPHICS CARD?! GAMING PC :D

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3 minutes ago, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

i5's aren't really dead. USED i5-2400 iwht used LGA 1155 MOTHERBOARD?! WITH A GOOD GRAPHICS CARD?! GAMING PC :D

Will become dead in next few years due to lack of cores and threads

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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40 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Will become dead in next few years due to lack of cores and threads

another question sir,

the cpu comes in a box without fan which fan would you suggest?

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21 minutes ago, Roy Azami said:

another question sir,

the cpu comes in a box without fan which fan would you suggest?

Ryzen 5 1600 comes with stock cooler, 1600X doesn't

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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Just now, ZM Fong said:

Ryzen 5 1600 comes with stock cooler, 1600X doesn't

final specs i sent mentioned 1600X tho 

should i get the 1600 instead?

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7 minutes ago, Roy Azami said:

final specs i sent mentioned 1600X tho 

should i get the 1600 instead?

I think the X stands for overclock-able so better go for one of those.

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3 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

Since Israel doesn't have PCPP, I'll list down the parts:

 

You mean they can't access it at all ? Otherwise, why not use it as a price comparison reference ?

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6 minutes ago, elis said:

I think the X stands for overclock-able so better go for one of those.

Both are overclockable, X is just the naming

@Roy Azami go for 1600 non X, lower TDP, same performance with 1600X after overclocked, got a free stock cooler too

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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Just now, ZM Fong said:

Both are overclockable, X is just the naming

@Roy Azami go for 1600 non X, lower TDP, same performance with 1600X after overclocked, got a free stock cooler too

will do sir

 

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