Ryzen 1700X OC to 4GHz - High Temps

[BuckGT]

So the other night I was able to get a stable 4.0 GHz but running Cinebench the CPU temperatures were peaking at 89ºC which made me very uncomfortable, as well as froze for a second but still finished.  Also Idles around 54ºC.

 

I'm using the Corsair 240mm H100i to cool with the fans at max, I think I had the voltage at 1.45v should I try to fine tune and back that down?

 

I would like to do a custom loop but that's slightly outside my budget.  

 

The options I was considering were either buy a second H100i for the fans so I can put the one I have in a push/pull config. (2700 Max RPM\; 77 CFM; Pressure 4mm/H20)

But 4 of the Corsair SP120 PWM fans.  Since they are a little lower on the scale from the ones that come with H100i I couldn't just by 2 and add them, could I?  (2350 Max RPM; 62 CFM; Pressure 3.1mm/H20)

Or I was looking at Noctua's NF-F12 Focused Flow Industrial fans for the same price.  (3000 Max RPM; 110 CFM; Pressure 7.63mm/H20)

 

Which do you guys think I should use?  Or who thinks I should just get them all and make a video comparing them?

[Singhstar]

just play around wiht it

[GirlFromYonder]

1 minute ago, BuckGT said:

So the other night I was able to get a stable 4.0 GHz but running Cinebench the CPU temperatures were peaking at 89ºC which made me very uncomfortable, as well as froze for a second but still finished.  Also Idles around 54ºC.

 

I'm using the Corsair 240mm H100i to cool with the fans at max, I think I had the voltage at 1.45v should I try to fine tune and back that down?

 

I would like to do a custom loop but that's slightly outside my budget.  

 

The options I was considering were either buy a second H100i for the fans so I can put the one I have in a push/pull config. (2700 Max RPM\; 77 CFM; Pressure 4mm/H20)

But 4 of the Corsair SP120 PWM fans.  Since they are a little lower on the scale from the ones that come with H100i I couldn't just by 2 and add them, could I?  (2350 Max RPM; 62 CFM; Pressure 3.1mm/H20)

Or I was looking at Noctua's NF-F12 Focused Flow Industrial fans for the same price.  (3000 Max RPM; 110 CFM; Pressure 7.63mm/H20)

 

Which do you guys think I should use?  Or who thinks I should just get them all and make a video comparing them?

All ryzen X cpus have a 20C offset. So 89C on a 1700X is actually 69C..

[79wjd]

Just now, DeezNoNos said:

All ryzen X cpus have a 20C offset. 

ummmm....why

[genexis_x]

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

ummmm....why

Just AMD things

[Simon771]

3 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

All ryzen X cpus have a 20C offset. So 89C on a 1700X is actually 69C..

That isn't 100% true.

Hwmonitor is displaying correct temps now.

 

To the OP: What software were you using to monitor your temps? Try using AMD Master or Ryzen Master ... that software should tell you the right temps.

[dizmo]

Some chips simply don't OC as well as others, you shouldn't push it super hard trying to get that 4ghz. You might have just lost the silicone lottery.

6 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

All ryzen X cpus have a 20C offset. So 89C on a 1700X is actually 69C..

I'm 99% sure they fixed that and it's no longer true.

[BuckGT]

20 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

That isn't 100% true.

Hwmonitor is displaying correct temps now.

 

To the OP: What software were you using to monitor your temps? Try using AMD Master or Ryzen Master ... that software should tell you the right temps.

I've been using HWMonitor, but I'll look up AMD Master, I feel like I had trouble finding it for some reason, but I'll look for that.

 

Edit:  I must have been high when I looked for it before..... found it.

 

Again:  I remember now, the download I had wouldn't install before... but I just remoted home and think it installed correctly with a new download, yay.

Edited May 9, 2017 by BuckGT
update

[BuckGT]

OKAY I can confirm for everyone HWMonitor is reporting higher core temp.

[knightslugger]

i rolled a tight one last night and got a multi of 40.75 but at a very high 1.5 volts (highest reported was 1.558v). temps were in the green though, never above 62*C with the H115i.

 

ran a CB15 and got 1700 with RAM at 2133MHz, and i know it'll go 2933MHz with 15 timinings so that's my next step. should see CB score jump up top around 1750 or so.

[Tech Wizard]

 

 

Product Name	True Junction Temp (Example)	tCTL Offset for Fan Policy	Temp Reported by tCTL
AMD Ryzen™ 7 1800X	38°C	20°C	58°C
AMD Ryzen™ 7 1700X	38°C	20°C	58°C
AMD Ryzen™ 7 1700	38°C	0°C	38°C

 

 

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/03/13/amd-ryzen-community-update

[GirlFromYonder]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Some chips simply don't OC as well as others, you shouldn't push it super hard trying to get that 4ghz. You might have just lost the silicone lottery.

I'm 99% sure they fixed that and it's no longer true.

OOh thx. 

 

 

 

@BuckGT Ur voltage is insane. get it lower and yes you might have lost the lottery.

 

 

 

Was ur TIM enough?

[BuckGT]

23 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

i rolled a tight one last night and got a multi of 40.75 but at a very high 1.5 volts (highest reported was 1.558v). temps were in the green though, never above 62*C with the H115i.

 

ran a CB15 and got 1700 with RAM at 2133MHz, and i know it'll go 2933MHz with 15 timinings so that's my next step. should see CB score jump up top around 1750 or so.

I've got 16GBx2 3000MHz Corsair Dominator platinums and I haven't been able to get them to boot with 2997MHz the bios updated A-XMP profile does 2667 fine, but I setting the timings that are on the sticker won't stabilize.

 

Have you seen the "gaming mode" OC presets ont eh MSI x370 Titanium?  I'll try and get some screenshots when I get home from work but the first level sets it to 1.45v for a 3.8 or 3.9 oc.   Level 2 and 3 are up into 1.55v

 

 

13 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

OOh thx. 

 

 

 

@BuckGT Ur voltage is insane. get it lower and yes you might have lost the lottery.

 

 

 

Was ur TIM enough?

yyyeah it makes me worry to do it so I usually back it down after a few minutes of seeing the temps go up with the high voltage.

[GirlFromYonder]

5 minutes ago, BuckGT said:

 

 

 

yyyeah it makes me worry to do it so I usually back it down after a few minutes of seeing the temps go up with the high voltage.

What I have heard is 1.42 is the best voltage for ryzen. If you can do 3.8 with that, that is fine.

[Mr.Meerkat]

39 minutes ago, BuckGT said:

OKAY I can confirm for everyone HWMonitor is reporting higher core temp.

69C is fine then no  

Anyway, first world problems when AyyyyMD does something weird...

[knightslugger]

12 minutes ago, BuckGT said:

Have you seen the "gaming mode" OC presets ont eh MSI x370 Titanium? L'll try and get some screenshots when I get home from work but the first level sets it to 1.45v for a 3.8 or 3.9 oc.   Level 2 and 3 are up into 1.55v

If they are anything like Asus' One Click OC (which i'm sure it is) that doesn't surprise me. Stability with voltage isn't linear when you get to the top.

[igetaroundd]

1 hour ago, Singhstar said:

just play around wiht it

wow thanks for the great advice

[Singhstar]

3 hours ago, igetaroundd said:

wow thanks for the great advice

you are welcome!

[dylants]

Use sp120 fans to push because they are made for handling resistance (thus their static pressure name). Use Af120 fans for pulling air through because they are optimized for pushing / pulling as much air as possible (thus their air flow name). Although this would be the most optimal push / pull configuration, you will have minimalistic improvements UNLESS you are not using sp120 fans right now.

[BuckGT]

20 minutes ago, dylants said:

Use sp120 fans to push because they are made for handling resistance (thus their static pressure name). Use Af120 fans for pulling air through because they are optimized for pushing / pulling as much air as possible (thus their air flow name). Although this would be the most optimal push / pull configuration, you will have minimalistic improvements UNLESS you are not using sp120 fans right now.

They're the Static Pressure fans that come with the H100i.

 

So it would actually help to have high airflow low pressure for the pull side?  Would the different fan types be okay for push/pull?  Is it as long as their RPMs are the same?

[knightslugger]

25 minutes ago, dylants said:

Use sp120 fans to push because they are made for handling resistance (thus their static pressure name). Use Af120 fans for pulling air through because they are optimized for pushing / pulling as much air as possible (thus their air flow name). Although this would be the most optimal push / pull configuration, you will have minimalistic improvements UNLESS you are not using sp120 fans right now.

The fan curve should be set to the water temp, not the processor temp. I see absolutely no reason to use a push/pull config. they dont need to spin that fast to cool the water as it is and a clean rad isn't that restrictive as I'm using SW3 1000rpm fans on my H115i, and I never saw CPU temps rise above 65*C with a 1.558V max @ 41.25 multi just before crashing (and that's after ramp loading for half an hour).