[H] delided a Kaby Lake i7 7700K, the results are .. interesting

[Majestic]

1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

( ಥـْـِـِـِـْಥ) what!?  Please for the love of god... *facepalm* someone needs to explain to them that's not how temperatures work.  For example, 40 C is not "twice as hot" as 20 C since 0 in whatever scale you're using, unless it's absolute is just some arbitrary value with no meaning in this context.

while you're at it, also learn him how to round off numbers

[cluelessgenius]

1 minute ago, Mooshi said:

Would be nice if, you know, a BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY WITH A MONOPOLY ON CPUS, does things right out of the factory regarding temps. 

yeah and if company managers could stop embezzling money and the government could stop favoring products and laws only to make that tax money and bacon would grow on bushes

[Lays]

6 minutes ago, Majestic said:

liquid ultra is 38.4 w/mk, why didn't they use conductonaut? (73w/mk)

 

and anyone afraid of delidding, der8auer made a delid kit

It performs the same from what I've seen.

[Majestic]

6 minutes ago, Lays said:

It performs the same from what I've seen.

I think it takes extreme cases for it to manifest it's difference.

 

4 minutes ago, Kumaresh said:

Where can I get one of those ? And a step by step guide for noobies like me would be welcome.

right now only at caseking.de, but he promised worldwide shipping soon

 

 

[Citadelen]

35 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

-snip-

I'm pretty sure the GTX 480 is even hotter, get four of them with an FX-9590 or a Pentium D.

[Dabombinable]

Just now, Lays said:

It performs the same from what I've seen.

You can only dissipate heat so fast with air and water based cooling....which would be why that's the case.

[Lays]

1 minute ago, Dabombinable said:

You can only dissipate heat so fast with air and water based cooling....which would be why that's the case.

Considering conductonaut and CLU are no good for subzero, it's not really much of a big difference I can't imagine.  I know people who use conducto and people who use CLU, and they always see about that 20-25c drop.

[maybethisnamewillwork]

12 minutes ago, Majestic said:

liquid ultra is 38.4 w/mk, why didn't they use conductonaut? (73w/mk)

Tried both of these pastes and they performed about equal, but the CLU was heaps easier to spread on to the die.

[Lays]

1 minute ago, Kumaresh said:

OK, I can get the delid mate, but what do I get for the new TIM to get this best performance? Some recommend another thermal paste while others say liquid metal Which do I get for the best performance, where do I buy it and how do I apply it ? Sorry for being a noob

Liquid metal is the best, anyone who tells you otherwise has no experience first hand with delidding.

[Dabombinable]

Just now, Lays said:

Considering conductonaut and CLU are no good for subzero, it's not really much of a big difference I can't imagine.  I know people who use conducto and people who use CLU, and they always see about that 20-25c drop.

Is Conductonaut electrically conductive? I really don't want to have to mess around with additional nail polish to make sure I don't short anything on my 4790K, which is currently being run with an adapted Pentium 4 cooler, and thermal compound with only 0.9 w/mk (its the same kind of stuff I find inside OEM machines-but at $25/150g...its worth it for S370/Slot 1 bencharking)

[Majestic]

If you're not going to use liquid metal, don't bother delidding imho.

[Dabombinable]

Just now, Majestic said:

If you're not going to use liquid metal, don't bother delidding imho.

Liquid metal has no tangible benefits over some non metal products...and the jury is still out on how long they last before they need to be re-applied.

[Majestic]

1 minute ago, Dabombinable said:

Liquid metal has no tangible benefits over some non metal products...and the jury is still out on how long they last before they need to be re-applied.

It has a significantly higher thermal conductivity. And mine has been applied for 3 years now.

[deviant88]

Intel = some shit you dont wanna step into.

[Majestic]

2 minutes ago, deviant88 said:

Intel = some shit you dont wanna step into.

amazing contribution

[deviant88]

8 minutes ago, Kumaresh said:

Where do I get the appropriate liquid metal and how do I apply it ? Anybody with prior experience on this forum ?

Its called CoolLaboratory Liquid Pro/Ultra its been known for years https://www.amazon.com/Coollaboratory-Liquid-Thermal-Compound-Syringe/dp/B001PE5XAC

[Majestic]

1 minute ago, Kumaresh said:

Can I also use this in the place of normal thermal paste between the IHS and CPU cooler ? Any performance improvement ?

No, nothing significant

[porina]

31 minutes ago, Majestic said:

right now only at caseking.de, but he promised worldwide shipping soon

Particularly for those in north America, look up the Rockit 88 which has been around for a while.

14 minutes ago, Majestic said:

If you're not going to use liquid metal, don't bother delidding imho.

I lost the IHS lottery on one 6700k, where it would give bad results at 4.2 GHz due to temps above 80C with decent air. After a delid and using Noctua paste the hottest core dropped 15C and all was good again.

[zMeul]

30 minutes ago, Kumaresh said:

I wouldn't normally consider delidding given the risks and voiding of warranty, but it's really hot where I live and I also want to over clock my system I might thermal throttle like crazy and 10-20 degree temperature margins would make a huge difference.

you could use black glue / silicone to attach the IHS  and no one will be the wiser - if you do it properly

[Dabombinable]

Just now, zMeul said:

you could use black glue / silicone to attach the IHS  and no one will be the wiser - if you do it properly

So you'd have to make the IHS look like shit again is what your saying.

[zMeul]

2 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

So you'd have to make the IHS look like shit again is what your saying.

what!?

[H] used red silicone to put it back on

 

[Lays]

1 hour ago, Dabombinable said:

Liquid metal has no tangible benefits over some non metal products...and the jury is still out on how long they last before they need to be re-applied.

I expect better from you man

[Techicolors]

2 hours ago, stealth80 said:

I delidded a 3770k and damaged a memory controller, still worked in single channel its what made me switch to the 4790k, and some guy on ebay got a bargain and fully knew what he was getting

so you sold the 3770k on ebay? 

[Thony]

3 hours ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

Mine was hitting 100C in stress tests while everything was stock. I undervolted my chip just to cool it down.

Haswell situation hmm. 

No wonder there is "Kabylake refresh" coming next.

[JoostinOnline]

2 hours ago, Lays said:

Thermal shock, tldr the die is too small for the heat to dissipate when they solder it, so it will kill chips

I'm not sure TLDR was appropriate there, since the part after it was 643% longer.