What's the deal with AMD vs Nvidia?

[GenialGiraffe]

This will no doubt degrade very rapidly but why is this usually such a polarizing topic? They're both companies that make graphics cards that are fairly comparable, are one of their business practices really that bad/good? Or do people want to feel justified in what they purchased? 

[79wjd]

fanboys

[TommyW2061]

its not that, its just green team masterrace..... jokes. i dont know why people make such a big deal out of it sometimes. IMO amd is some more budget oriented than Nvidia, whilst still packing great performance.

[Guest Kloaked]

5 minutes ago, GenialGiraffe said:

This will no doubt degrade very rapidly but why is this usually such a polarizing topic?

 

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

fanboys

^

 

5 minutes ago, GenialGiraffe said:

They're both companies that make graphics cards that are fairly comparable

Exactly. =)

 

5 minutes ago, GenialGiraffe said:

are one of their business practices really that bad/good?

Nope. One is just better at selling themselves.

 

5 minutes ago, GenialGiraffe said:

Or do people want to feel justified in what they purchased? 

That and people have massive egos when they're behind a keyboard.

[Guest Kloaked]

1 minute ago, TommyW2061 said:

IMO amd is some more budget oriented than Nvidia, whilst still packing great performance.

That's not an opinion, that's a fact, Jack.

[Squibbies18]

9 minutes ago, GenialGiraffe said:

This will no doubt degrade very rapidly but why is this usually such a polarizing topic? They're both companies that make graphics cards that are fairly comparable, are one of their business practices really that bad/good? Or do people want to feel justified in what they purchased? 

I've also been wondering this to be honest. I don't understand why some people hate one side over the other. I used to have a gtx 960 (which i paid £180 for in 2015) but recently switched to an r9 fury (which i paid £275 for last November) not because i think AMD is better than Nvidia. I think that both companies make good GPUs but i'm not going to specifically chose one company over the other, if i need a new GPU i'll just look for the best price to performance i can get at the time.  

[Mooshi]

AMD has driver issues (don't deny it) and Nvidia has dumb proprietary tech (GSync anyone?) 

 

Depending on what you do or what games you play, buy accordingly.  I'm currently using a GTX 1060 because I work too much to game as much as I'd like. I did have an RX480 before that was rma'd due to AMD having awful driver support for older openGL stuff. 

 

Ignore fanboys and buy what's best for you. 

[S_Project]

I just go with the best bang for buck.  Right now, that means the RX480 4GB as compared to the GTX1070.  I've had great cards from both lineups in the past.

[TheRandomness]

I think we shall be watching this thread quite closely..

Just an advanced notice, could we please keep this thread civil and organised?

[Tech Inquisition]

18 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

fanboys

That there... TRIGGERED!

[MegaDave91]

Elitism 

[njmyers3]

I think we can all agree that Intel makes the best GPUs!

[Godlygamer23]

9 minutes ago, njmyers3 said:

I think we can all agree that Intel makes the best GPUs!

That's not a GPU.

[njmyers3]

43 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

That's not a GPU.

I couldn't find a picture of the really old one that they made  this is close enough. It's like a stock RX480 with a skin. What is is really though? I can't imagine an SSD would need a fan.

[Godlygamer23]

Just now, njmyers3 said:

I couldn't find a picture of the really old one that they made  this is close enough. It's like a stock RX480 with a skin. What is is really though? I can't imagine an SSD would need a fan.

It's probably a compute card, like NVIDIA's Tesla series.

[0ld_Chicken]

4 minutes ago, njmyers3 said:

I couldn't find a picture of the really old one that they made  this is close enough. It's like a stock RX480 with a skin. What is is really though? I can't imagine an SSD would need a fan.

 

4 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

It's probably a compute card, like NVIDIA's Tesla series.

I don't know how accurate it is, but this came up with the image in google

http://gizmodo.com/intel-plans-to-put-its-insane-8-teraflop-supercomputer-1742966590

edit: maybe better, looks like a xeon phi

        http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/12/intel_xeon_phi_coprocessor_launch/

 

[GenialGiraffe]

4 hours ago, Mooshi said:

AMD has driver issues (don't deny it) and Nvidia has dumb proprietary tech (GSync anyone?) 

 

Depending on what you do or what games you play, buy accordingly.  I'm currently using a GTX 1060 because I work too much to game as much as I'd like. I did have an RX480 before that was rma'd due to AMD having awful driver support for older openGL stuff. 

 

Ignore fanboys and buy what's best for you. 

To me it seems that AMD is slow on getting drivers that use their tech properly and Nvidia offers solid performance day one and up (I have an RX 480 so i dont know what Nvidia's drivers are like).

 

Despite that AMD seems to be more consumer and developer friendly when it comes to freesync and opensource stuff.

[Carclis]

Gotta protect your investment yo!

[TheRandomness]

6 hours ago, 0ld_Chicken said:

 

I don't know how accurate it is, but this came up with the image in google

http://gizmodo.com/intel-plans-to-put-its-insane-8-teraflop-supercomputer-1742966590

edit: maybe better, looks like a xeon phi

        http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/12/intel_xeon_phi_coprocessor_launch/

 

 

6 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

It's probably a compute card, like NVIDIA's Tesla series.

 

6 hours ago, njmyers3 said:

I couldn't find a picture of the really old one that they made  this is close enough. It's like a stock RX480 with a skin. What is is really though? I can't imagine an SSD would need a fan.

It's a Xeon Phi (no display outputs), probably the 7120P (61 cores, 244 threads). 

[Morgan MLGman]

9 hours ago, TheRandomness said:

I think we shall be watching this thread quite closely..

Just an advanced notice, could we please keep this thread civil and organised?

It's funny how we both already know that if this thread gets more popular and the discussion is longer, it's gonna get closed eventually

9 hours ago, Mooshi said:

AMD has driver issues (don't deny it)

Same goes for Nvidia atm. Actually, nowadays there are more issues with Nvidia drivers, although in that regard both companies are comparable.

[jeremymwilson]

9 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

fanboys

The second syllable is what is relevant here - most of the nonsense posted re this issue (and other polarizing issues online) come from teenage boys who are (generally) ill-informed. But worse than that, being online means that there is no real comeback to anything they post, so all their small-mindedness, pettiness and viciousness comes out without the normal repercussions of face to face interactions. It's just another type of bullying - as reprehensible as all bullying is. 

 

 

[Dabombinable]

Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

It's funny how we both already know that if this thread gets more popular and the discussion is longer, it's gonna get closed eventually

Same goes for Nvidia atm. Actually, nowadays there are more issues with Nvidia drivers, although in that regard both companies are comparable.

I'd argue that no Nvidia driver could give some graphics cards more issues than they already have (story of my GTX 970; it can't do a 50MHz OC with a 12% power increase, it puts out as much heat as a 290X and runs louder+almost as hot with a clean heatink+loads of airflow, half the vRAM is needlessly on the back without thermal pads for the backplate, and its apparently binned for overclocking).

[Morgan MLGman]

6 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

I'd argue that no Nvidia driver could give some graphics cards more issues than they already have (story of my GTX 970; it can't do a 50MHz OC with a 12% power increase, it puts out as much heat as a 290X and runs louder+almost as hot with a clean heatink+loads of airflow, half the vRAM is needlessly on the back without thermal pads for the backplate, and its apparently binned for overclocking).

I honestly were with Nvidia for a long time until I got my 290X and I upgraded to an R9 Fury because their drivers in the past 1,5 year gave me MUCH less issues, now that they have ReLive it's even better cause it's really super-good, extremely easy to set up and works as it should.

[Dabombinable]

Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

I honestly were with Nvidia for a long time until I got my 290X and I upgraded to an R9 Fury because their drivers in the past 1,5 year gave me MUCH less issues, now that they have ReLive it's even better cause it's really super-good, extremely easy to set up and works as it should.

AMD's 2010 for-OEM-driver did well with my old laptop, slightly lower DX performance than Catalyst 15.7 drivers yes. But the 2010 drivers were far lighter, more stable and had far greater OpenGL performance (but no OpenCL support). That laptop consumed under 700MB of RAM with the 2010 drivers and Windows 7 Pro 64bit, as opposed to 1.2GB with Catalyst 15.7

[GenialGiraffe]

This conversation has been pretty civil, so thank you for that. One question, how important is power efficiency in the real world? Like, say the difference between the RX 480 amd the GTX 1060