OOTL: What is Kaby Lake?

[mrjordann]

Hey guys. Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but I've been out of the loop for a couple months when it comes to PCs.

 

What is Kaby Lake? And how are they any different than other CPUs?

 

Thanks

[NumLock21]

Look at topics on this forum. You will find your answer.

[bgibbz]

It's the optimized version of skylake. Slightly faster, slightly more power efficient, and that's about it. 

[MegaDave91]

Kaby Lake is codename for the 7th (latest) generation of Intel processors.

[xc3ll]

Kaby lake = intels new architecture, 7th generation. So i5 7600, i7 7700 ....

 

Basicly a little higher clocks than skylake, but that's it. Also support for some faster peripherals like more m.2 pci ssds etc...

[App4that]

Kabylake uses the same 14nm process as Skylake but has been refined so Intel is calling 14nm+.

 

It offers better overclocking, more lanes downstream for storage, Much better video encoding and decoding, Octane support, and yadda yadda.

 

If you're buying new, you want it. If you have Skylake, you don't. 

[Trav_X]

A slightly optimized version of Skylake that adds a little clock speed but intrudes a new Chipset (Z270) and is a little faster. Not worth the money over Skylake unless the price is really close together. And Ryzen is going to come out from AMD and actually bring good competition to Intel.

[App4that]

1 minute ago, Trav_X said:

A slightly optimized version of Skylake that adds a little clock speed but intrudes a new Chipset (Z270) and is a little faster. Not worth the money over Skylake unless the price is really close together. And Ryzen is going to come out from AMD and actually bring good competition to Intel.

Ryzen won't be competition for the k skew Kabylake CPU though. Ryzen lacks the features required to be competition. 

[Trav_X]

Just now, App4that said:

Ryzen won't be competition for the k skew Kabylake CPU though. Ryzen lacks the features required to be competition. 

I suppose. Should bring a nice introduction to the market for Team Red fanboys. Heard Ryzen stock can beat 6700k but we'll just have to see upon release.

[App4that]

6 minutes ago, Trav_X said:

I suppose. Should bring a nice introduction to the market for Team Red fanboys. Heard Ryzen stock can beat 6700k but we'll just have to see upon release.

Always nice to have options but in gaming there's little hope AMD can de throne Intel. Price, there they have a shot. 

[Trav_X]

21 minutes ago, App4that said:

Always nice to have options but in gaming there's little hope AMD can de throne Intel. Price, there they have a shot. 

I'm personally a little more interest how it performs in multi core performance. I'm not so sure about the results I've heard that Ryzen can beat a 6850k on that front, but it'd be nice to have an option for a workstation that isn't like $400+ with like a $200 motherboard.

[App4that]

15 minutes ago, Trav_X said:

I'm personally a little more interest how it performs in multi core performance. I'm not so sure about the results I've heard that Ryzen can beat a 6850k on that front, but it'd be nice to have an option for a workstation that isn't like $400+ with like a $200 motherboard.

You already do, Xeon lol. The workstation PC's we use in the lab run them. Cheaper than my rig, though they're not sitting on 2 980ti lol.

 

But I agree. For the home workstation that doesn't do a lot of editing Ryzen should fit in nicely. 

[Trav_X]

3 minutes ago, App4that said:

You already do, Xeon lol. The workstation PC's we use in the lab run them. Cheaper than my rig, though they're not sitting on 2 980ti lol.

 

But I agree. For the home workstation that doesn't do a lot of editing Ryzen should fit in nicely. 

Yeah, some Xeons can sustain gaming, but I'm talking more like a home video editing and content creation + gaming + media consumption build. Id totally get a decacore Xeon clocked at 2ghz stock if I was going straight up multi-core performance on a lower budget but for a home gaming station, idk about that  

[App4that]

6 minutes ago, Trav_X said:

Yeah, some Xeons can sustain gaming, but I'm talking more like a home video editing and content creation + gaming + media consumption build. Id totally get a decacore Xeon clocked at 2ghz stock if I was going straight up multi-core performance on a lower budget but for a home gaming station, idk about that  

That's what I do, and that takes lanes. You might get away with one card, but Ryzen doesn't have the lanes for mass storage. So you'll be leaning on a NAS. Why I'm pissed a mainstream Kabylake CPU has the same CPU lanes as Ryzen. In comparison Ryzen has 16 lanes, a 6850k or above has 40. I just don't see how AMD expects that to work.