PC parts people overspend on

[BingoFishy]

-Storage (higher end and lower end SATA SSDs aren't all that different in real world performance)

-Motherboards (No need to get more than you need)

-RAM

-AIO CPU coolers (air coolers are cheaper and better in most cases)

 

Pretty much it though. I get that cases can be expensive and don't affect performance, but at the same time I get that aesthetics are important to certain people. I wouldn't use a case over $100 personally, but I get the tempered glass stuff, and I'd probably get an S340 Elite if I were to choose a case for a personal build rn. 

 

Prebuilts, even desktops, are fine as long as you aren't spending more than like $800.

[Mooshi]

4 hours ago, Minibois said:

^this.

It's not the thought about wanting a silent PC that is wrong, it's the pre-conception that all watercoolers are quieter than air coolers: they are not (always).

 

Yeeeeep.  AIO coolers aren't inherently quieter than tower coolers if they have pump noise and/or loud stock fans.

[Praesi]

I bought a custom 980Ti in its Release Week..sooo.....ya overspend alot there.

[ElZamo92]

Well, I bough an AIO to cool a G3258 for one, but it was funny how it never reached more than 40ºC. To be fair I got it for only $40 USD. 

[Beef Boss]

I've heard a lot of bad things about Samsung SSD'S

[Clanscorpia]

4 minutes ago, BadluckBrian said:

I've heard a lot of bad things about Samsung SSD'S

They used to have issues. Now they are the best on the market.

 

For me its definitely 1060's. The amount of people saying they will only go Nvidia is ridiculous

[Beef Boss]

1 minute ago, Clanscorpia said:

They used to have issues. Now they are the best on the market.

 

For me its definitely 1060's. The amount of people saying they will only go Nvidia is ridiculous

Would it be better to have an SSD that's really fast but a rather small storage and just have the OS on it and have a hard drive with all my programs in it. Or what 

[ThomasD]

21 hours ago, Mooshi said:

lmao I have an i7 with a 1060. To be fair, I can afford to get a more expensive GPU, I simply don't get to use my PC as much as I'd like due to work and tend to upgrade every 4ish years so I went with an i7 and will upgrade the GPU and monitor sometime 2017 when the new gen comes out. 

I agree, (although my current rig is 4790k/1070.)   Your monitor and the sorts of games you prefer might mean there is no appreciable benefit to be gained from a more expensive GPU.

 

I upgrade GPUs about once every 2-3 years, but prefer my CPU to last at least five.

[Clanscorpia]

1 minute ago, BadluckBrian said:

Would it be better to have an SSD that's really fast but a rather small storage and just have the OS on it and have a hard drive with all my programs in it. Or what 

The difference in OS time on an SSD like mine (SanDisk SSDPlus) and a 960 Pro is very small so not really. Id just get something like a decent cheap 120GB SSD and an HDD

[Princess Luna]

The feeling I have is that going with PCI-e SSDs is yet to be an overkill and waste of money when SATA3 SSDs are more than capable of giving the full real world performance you need Especially when your main purpose for the PC lays in gaming.

[Beef Boss]

4 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

The difference in OS time on an SSD like mine (SanDisk SSDPlus) and a 960 Pro is very small so not really. Id just get something like a decent cheap 120GB SSD and an HDD

Okay thank you!

[ThomasD]

7 hours ago, Energycore said:

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- RAM (dammit guys RAM is not hard to make and doesn't fail with time, just buy the Adata or Avexir)

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I did by ADATA RAM.

 

All 32 GB of it...

[aisle9]

2 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

People's requirements are very subjective. Can you define how NVIDIA(and even Linus in that regard) are spreading myths that you need a powerful video card for Minesweeper/3D pinball. If anything, I just see joke comments being made about both those games with those video cards. 

 

Where does NVIDIA imply that any of those games require a 1070? I think you're over exaggerating in order to make a point that doesn't actually exist.

NVIDIA has a marketing department. Their marketing department pitches the 1080 as the next big thing, something every PC gamer needs. Linus and Jay and Austin and Awesomesauce all do reviews of the 1080 telling us how it's the best thing ever. You really have to come here to find people preaching the need to buy the parts that play the games you want to play. Even then, there are more than a few people on LTT who have bragged about their 6700K/1070 combo...for CS:GO at 1440p. Do any reviewers sit there and say that you need a 1080 for Minesweeper? No, but they don't really challenge the notion either, and if someone wants to buy a 1080 for Minesweeper, NVIDIA is sure as hell going to tell them what a great idea it is and sell them one.

2 hours ago, elkenrod said:

Full Disclosure, I'm guilty of this.

 

 

CASES.... people overspend on cases.

 

It's just a box.

It's just a box until someone picks out a freaking DIYPC box for their build, and you spend the next three hours of your life trying to get the parts to fit securely into a flimsy metal case and shoving cables wherever you can find to fit them, then head to the hospital afterwards because you've lost a pint of blood from gashing yourself three thousand times.

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

-snip-

And I honestly don't see why is that wrong in the first place? Marketing, Propaganda, Advertising, Promoting, etc... all are part of the capitalism, every single company for any product from electronics to cloths to cosmetics and drugs etc will always sell 2 things, the product and the image.

You can't blame nVidia for your lack of patience to sit down and read articles and talk to people and actually understand what hardware are capable of and what fits better in what, people want nVidia marketing department to write them technical lectures on cost-benefice? I mean come on people should quit being so easy to be influenced and start thinking and studying things for themselves if they feel a company is "taking advantage of you because you got yourself driven by the hype they built"

 

[Beef Boss]

5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

And I honestly don't see why is that wrong in the first place? Marketing, Propaganda, Advertising, Promoting, etc... all are part of the capitalism, every single company for any product from electronics to cloths to cosmetics and drugs etc will always sell 2 things, the product and the image.

You can't blame nVidia for your lack of patience to sit down and read articles and talk to people and actually understand what hardware are capable of and what fits better in what, people want nVidia marketing department to write them technical lectures on cost-benefice? I mean come on people should quit being so easy to be influenced and start thinking and studying things for themselves if they feel a company is "taking advantage of you because you got yourself driven by the hype they built"

 

Drug advertising

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, BadluckBrian said:

Drug advertising

Yeah? have you never seen a single ad of a pain killer or whatever in the television in your life?

[elkenrod]

8 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

 

It's just a box until someone picks out a freaking DIYPC box for their build, and you spend the next three hours of your life trying to get the parts to fit securely into a flimsy metal case and shoving cables wherever you can find to fit them, then head to the hospital afterwards because you've lost a pint of blood from gashing yourself three thousand times.

 

In my experience the bleeding has more to due with the CPU heat sink than anything else.  But I do see your point.  Most case reviews never talk about that aspect of it.  Sharp edges I mean.

[Energycore]

2 hours ago, Bleedingyamato said:

How do you think a 120mm NF-A Noctua fan would compare to a Corsair ML-120?

If you mean the NF-S12A, it runs at half the max RPM of a ML120 so it's a totally different beast. You could compare the ML120 to an NF-F12 iPPC 2000RPM (the ML120 seems to win here by a bit)

[Lord Nicoll]

23 hours ago, Mooshi said:

Upon browsing some threads with users asking suggestions for their new rig part selection, I kept silently telling myself some selections were overpriced for the intended function. Does anyone else do this and what parts do you feel get over spent on? 

 

This isn't a thread to mock people's budgets or to start any flame wars, it's mostly for observation. By all means if you have the money, go all out if you can afford it! For me personally, I think it's the CPU coolers and RAM. My kit is nothing special, it's a G.Skill Ripjawz set running at 2666mhz--I can not justify for the life of me a Platinum 3200+ kit when considering real world performance to price difference. Same for CPU coolers. I can understand the AIO aesthetic, but $100 vs $30 for a modestly overclocked system..H7 will do haha. 

 

How does the LTT community feel about certain parts and their price tags? 

Hmmmm, nope, can't think of a single part I over paid for really........

[B16CXHatch]

3 hours ago, Bleedingyamato said:

How do you think a 120mm NF-A Noctua fan would compare to a Corsair ML-120?

Couldn't tell ya. I was considering some ML-140 Blue LED fans at one point cause I do still like to rice it up a bit with my main PC but I just couldn't justify the cost. I'd rather have the Noctuas and an LED strip instead. I might still try the ML-140s some time though. Maybe when I get my tax return in a couple of months. I do kinda need to quit buying fans. Speaking of over spending, there's seriously a very large stack of fans piling up on a counter in my house created by my constant swapping. I finally picked the ones I think I'm gonna stick with but I love trying out different ones still. It just gets kind of expensive.

[Bleedingyamato]

2 hours ago, ElZamo92 said:

Well, I bough an AIO to cool a G3258 for one, but it was funny how it never reached more than 40ºC. To be fair I got it for only $40 USD. 

You know it's funny I was just thinking the other day it would be interesting/fun/funny to get either a crazy big tower CPU cooler or a AIO water cooler for the G3258 in my secondary desktop and then attempt to learn how to OC it crazy high and see what happens. 

 

Seriously I was really thinking of doing that.   Though also partly just to have a little firsthand experience with a basic AIO cooler.  

 

1 hour ago, aisle9 said:

It's just a box until someone picks out a freaking DIYPC box for their build, and you spend the next three hours of your life trying to get the parts to fit securely into a flimsy metal case and shoving cables wherever you can find to fit them, then head to the hospital afterwards because you've lost a pint of blood from gashing yourself three thousand times.

I know that feeling.  ?

 

Last soeing I used this POS Rosewill case when I first built my secondary deaktop and it sucked.  I cut myself pretty bad getting the front panel off when I was building the computer.  Though looking back idk why I thought I needed to take the panel off when I wasn't putting in an optical drive (there wasn't room with all the PSU cables in the way anyway) or changing the front fan.  

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006BCK7RM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

I actually like the front fan grill, it seems to have a decent amount of open length inside for a GPU, and I like how the front fan is directly in front of the GPU.  But especially if you use a non-modular PSU you won't have any room to use the optical drive bay, there's only 1 HDD bay, (at least room for a second or a single ssd would be a huge improvement) and in general you can tell just from touching it that it's a low quality case with lots of pointy and rough edges.  ?

 

It was only a few months later after someone on LTT showed me a Corsair 88R that I quickly switched my secondary desktop to one of those.  Though I wish I'd known about the Spec-M2 version of it since I like the front panel better.

 

1 hour ago, elkenrod said:

In my experience the bleeding has more to due with the CPU heat sink than anything else.  But I do see your point.  Most case reviews never talk about that aspect of it.  Sharp edges I mean.

When I put the Cryorig H7 in the Usagi build I did for my friend I defintely had to be a little careful since it was a little sharp in spots but thankfully not enough to cut me.

 

58 minutes ago, Energycore said:

If you mean the NF-S12A, it runs at half the max RPM of a ML120 so it's a totally different beast. You could compare the ML120 to an NF-F12 iPPC 2000RPM (the ML120 seems to win here by a bit)

Idk.  I was referring to the Noctua fan he put on the CPU cooler.  A 120mm version of it if there is one.

 

53 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

Hmmmm, nope, can't think of a single part I over paid for really........

I still wonder how with the covering around the PCIE slots how it doesn't get in the way of putting anything in the slots.  It looks like that surrounding the slots like it would either prevent their use of at least make it tricky.  Nice looking board otherwise.  

 

33 minutes ago, B16CXHatch said:

Couldn't tell ya. I was considering some ML-140 Blue LED fans at one point cause I do still like to rice it up a bit with my main PC but I just couldn't justify the cost. I'd rather have the Noctuas and an LED strip instead. I might still try the ML-140s some time though. Maybe when I get my tax return in a couple of months. I do kinda need to quit buying fans. Speaking of over spending, there's seriously a very large stack of fans piling up on a counter in my house created by my constant swapping. I finally picked the ones I think I'm gonna stick with but I love trying out different ones still. It just gets kind of expensive.

Do you at least know if there's a 120mm version of that Noctua fan you put on the Cryorig cooler?

 

 

By stick with I assume you mean some Noctua fans?  What model?

[Energycore]

2 minutes ago, Bleedingyamato said:

Idk.  I was referring to the Noctua fan he put on the CPU cooler.  A 120mm version of it if there is one.

Oh you mean the NF-A15 or A14 which are 140mm

 

Well the NF-F12 is what I would call the 120mm equivalent. They're static pressure oriented fans that don't give up airflow.

[Lord Nicoll]

13 minutes ago, Bleedingyamato said:

I still wonder how with the covering around the PCIE slots how it doesn't get in the way of putting anything in the slots.  It looks like that surrounding the slots like it would either prevent their use of at least make it tricky.  Nice looking board otherwise.  

 

Hmm, it is very well designed not to interfere, the cover (called ROG armour or something like that, yep, has it on the box) is only barely taller than the slots, it really don't get in the way at all

 

[Lord Nicoll]

22 minutes ago, Bleedingyamato said:

I still wonder how with the covering around the PCIE slots how it doesn't get in the way of putting anything in the slots.  It looks like that surrounding the slots like it would either prevent their use of at least make it tricky.  Nice looking board otherwise

as you can see cards fit in with plenty of room. 

[Bleedingyamato]

45 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Oh you mean the NF-A15 or A14 which are 140mm

 

Well the NF-F12 is what I would call the 120mm equivalent. They're static pressure oriented fans that don't give up airflow.

Maybe?  But he'd said the Noctua fan he put on the cooler is 92mm not 140 so idk.

 

32 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

Hmm, it is very well designed not to interfere, the cover (called ROG armour or something like that, yep, has it on the box) is only barely taller than the slots, it really don't get in the way at all

 

Ah.  That's good.  I wasn't worried that armor thing would be an issue.  ?

 

Possibly dumb question for the day: what's a FirePro?