cpu Get Kaby Lake, or wait for Canonlake? (CAD Computer)

[TVwazhere]

I have two computer's I'm looking at upgrades for (one is my person rig at home with a 4790k, but I'm probably not going to upgrade for a while, not needed yet IMO) so we will focus of computer #2

 

Computer #2 is a Workstation PC that is using a E5 1607 (V0!!!) xeon, manufactured from the end of 2011/beginning of 2012 @3GHz, quad core no hyperthredding. This PC was assembled in 2012/2013 (not sure) and we have been using it since 2013. It's primary role is Autodesk Inventor and AutoCAD. They're not big projects though; we aernt building an entire skid model for a power station with 100,000+ parts in it.Much more simple, sub 100 parts so in my opinion a lot of the "workstation" hardware is wasted (Nvidia m2000, ECC memory). Mostly because our 3D software only has parts of it that are multi threaded enabled, which are parts we use very rarely here. I have determined that Core Clock is more important than number of cores, though I still like hyper threading. So I've convinced my boss to let me choose the next computer (Sadly I cannot build it myself as it "needs a warranty" so I'll have to *sob* buy it pre built)

 

With that out of the way, Would it be better to get Kaby Lake computers when they release in early 2017, or wait for the new 10nm architecture in the Canonlake series (is it worth the wait)? I've heard that Kaby Lake is sort of "Skylake+", as Intel broke their tick tock schedule which I'm just learning about. Obviously either would be a improvement to the current CPU I have. I have been tracking a "Benchmark thread" (http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/how-fast-is-your-inventor-pc-really/td-p/5950908/page/24 my post is the IPI score of 5.02) on Autodesk's website for Inventor and so far the Best CPU for Autodesk Inventor is currently the 6700K (hence the moving away from workstation internals) so in theory Canonlake with it's improved clock speeds would definitely be better than Skylake in this regard. (For example, I'd love to get a Mainstream enabled Turbo Boost 3.0 CPU as this would be the perfect use case for the Single threaded optimized software, but I dfont know if that will be on Canonlake's list of features.)

 

I've basically done the research and am now looking for opinions. Are there any features of Canonlake that I would want to wait for? My computer isnt "smoking, bout to catch fire" or anything  but when comparing it to some of the computers on that thread, it's night and day.

[Lyte Starr]

It really depends on when you are planning on building and how far off the next processor is. Right now I would probably still do a Skylake over Kabylake. I wouldn't wait over a 2 month period for the minor update. Canonlake is a die shrink so that might also be a factor. Theoretically architecture update(features) will happen on the processor after Canonlake.

Edited October 24, 2016 by Lyte Starr

[Enderman]

Obviously newer hardware will perform better than kaby lake...

But do you really want to wait 2+ years for that?

[TVwazhere]

4 minutes ago, Lyte Starr said:

It really depends on when you are planning on building and how far off the next processor is. Right now I would probably still do a Skylake over Kabylake. I wouldn't wait over a 2 month period for the minor update. Canonlake is a die shrink so that might also be a factor. Theoretically architecture update(features) will happen on the processor after Canonlake.

Sadly I wouldn't be able to get this computer from my company unti after Kaby Lake has released anyways. And yes the 10nm architecture could be a factor yes but I just wasnt sure if it would launch with new features.

3 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Obviously newer hardware will perform better than kaby lake...

But do you really want to wait 2+ years for that?

Kaby lake is slated to launch beginning of next year with Canon lake launching at the end of 2017, so really only one year. 

 

I dont want to wait, but if there's a good Feature that Canonlake has that I need I would wait

[ARikozuM]

Might as well wait for whatever comes after the lakes... River, maybe?

 

I'd get Kaby Lake. The 7000-series is looking somewhat promising but there are too few benchmarks to go off of.

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Kaby lake is slated to launch beginning of next year with Canon lake launching at the end of 2017, so really only one year. 

 

I dont want to wait, but if there's a good Feature that Canonlake has that I need I would wait

It is 12-24 months in between generations. Not 6.

And the "good feature" is just more performance.

[QBtech]

Improvements between generations from intel are around 5-10%. So it isnt like waiting will give you a twice as powerfull product for half the price. In my opinion:

 

There is always the next gen to wait for, if you start waiting for it you will never buy anything.

[NumLock21]

Coffeelake

[TVwazhere]

4 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Coffeelake

I read that Coffee Lake will be released after Canonlake but still use the 14nm architecture from Skylake. (it also releases in 2018 so)

 

17 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Might as well wait for whatever comes after the lakes... River, maybe?

 

I'd get Kaby Lake. The 7000-series is looking somewhat promising but there are too few benchmarks to go off of.

11 minutes ago, QBtech said:

Improvements between generations from intel are around 5-10%. So it isnt like waiting will give you a twice as powerfull product for half the price. In my opinion:

 

There is always the next gen to wait for, if you start waiting for it you will never buy anything.

I dont plan on waiting past 2017, so this is the year I buy,  it's just how long into 2017 do I wait is the question.

 

15 minutes ago, Enderman said:

It is 12-24 months in between generations. Not 6.

And the "good feature" is just more performance.

Duely noted.

[kelvinhall05]

27 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Sadly I wouldn't be able to get this computer from my company unti after Kaby Lake has released anyways. And yes the 10nm architecture could be a factor yes but I just wasnt sure if it would launch with new features.

Kaby lake is slated to launch beginning of next year with Canon lake launching at the end of 2017, so really only one year. 

 

I dont want to wait, but if there's a good Feature that Canonlake has that I need I would wait

 

Maybe you should wait until features are leaked, not released, then use that information to decide whether to get Kaby or Canon.

[Enderman]

41 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

I dont plan on waiting past 2017, so this is the year I buy,  it's just how long into 2017 do I wait is the question.

Then you should not wait for cannonlake.

[TVwazhere]

6 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Then you should not wait for cannonlake.

Thank you!