Edward Snowdens petition goes (probably) Supreme Court of Norway

[Mihle]

Earlier this year, Edward Snowden started to "sue" the Norwegian state.

Now, The petition will most likely go to the Supreme Court of Norway.

 

Borgarting Court of Appeal came to the same conclusion as Oslo District Court, that they wont process the case.

The reason is that they wont process the case before there is a extradition request from the United States.

But United States would not do that before he already was in Norway.

 

For those who don know, the case is that Snowden want to know, if he is safe from being sent to USA because of the extradition law paragraph five.

He want to come to Norway to get the price he did win, The Ossietzky Prize.

 

Edward snowden will also have to pay ~2350€ to the state for legal cost.

Spoiler

"We will probably appeal"

-Vidar Strømme, Snowdens Norwegian Lawyer
 

Spoiler

"This decision will be appealed to the highest authorities."

- Norwegian PEN

 

My opinion:

If the petition does not go trough, it is bad, and Snowden probably wont come to Norway.

If it does, it would be great, and he probably will come to Norway to pick up his prize.

 

Sources:

(in Norwegian)

http://www.aftenposten.no/norge/Lagmannsretten-avviser-Snowdens-anke_-na-varsler-hans-advokat-anke-til-Hoyesterett-605542b.html

https://www.nrk.no/norge/vil-anke-avvisning-av-snowden-soksmal-til-hoyesterett-1.13154003

http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/8622824/

 

 

[Prysin]

who cares, its just legal squabble and holds no real meaning UNTIL he is arrested or not anyways.

[Mihle]

3 minutes ago, Prysin said:

who cares, its just legal squabble and holds no real meaning UNTIL he is arrested or not anyways.

not actually, if it goes trough, he is defended by law.

 

It it where in USA, maybe they would care about the law.

[tlink]

On 28-9-2016 at 10:09 PM, Mihle Gaming said:

not actually, if it goes trough, he is defended by law.

 

It it where in USA, maybe they would care about the law.

exactly, not every country has weird patriot act laws like the US. i hope snowden can pick up his price and europe stops being the bitch of the USA for once.

[patrickjp93]

11 minutes ago, tlink said:

exactly, not every country has weird patriot act laws like the US. i hope snowden can pick up his price and europe stops being the bitch of the USA for once.

Snowden put millions of lives at risk and sold state secrets to both China and Russia in exchange for protection from U.S. legal authorities. He deserves the gallows.

 

Yes, he did a few good things in revealing programs, but it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that U.S. foreign intelligence agents in China, North Korea, Iran, and Russia have died because of his actions. He's not a patriot. He's a traitor.

[Ronda]

5 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

sold state secrets to both China and Russia ... it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that U.S. foreign intelligence agents ... died because of his actions.

Source?

[Centurius]

4 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Snowden put millions of lives at risk and sold state secrets to both China and Russia in exchange for protection from U.S. legal authorities. He deserves the gallows.

 

Yes, he did a few good things in revealing programs, but it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that U.S. foreign intelligence agents in China, North Korea, Iran, and Russia have died because of his actions. He's not a patriot. He's a traitor.

Pretty much this, even if he were extradited he'd probably get less time than he deserves.

[tlink]

6 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Snowden put millions of lives at risk and sold state secrets to both China and Russia in exchange for protection from U.S. legal authorities. He deserves the gallows.

 

Yes, he did a few good things in revealing programs, but it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that U.S. foreign intelligence agents in China, North Korea, Iran, and Russia have died because of his actions. He's not a patriot. He's a traitor.

that doesn't mean it was his intention. cover him in tar and feathers as much as you want, you have zero proof of bad intentions, we can even argue that he helped the people more than he harmed them. the agents in those countries knew the risks, snowden did not choose what to release or not, the news agents did that, are they traitors too?. occam's razor is at proof here.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

8 minutes ago, tlink said:

that doesn't mean it was his intention. cover him in tar and feathers as much as you want, you have zero proof of bad intentions, we can even argue that he helped the people more than he harmed them. the agents in those countries knew the risks, snowden did not choose what to release or not, the news agents did that, are they traitors too?. occam's razor is at proof here.

"Agents died because of him" is like "attacks were prevented thanks to Guantanamo" or "attacks were prevented thanks to e-mail mass surveillance". You know... those... attacks... we can't tell much about, but trust me, it helped, it's all justified.  Similarly, trust me, it happened, thousands dead, Snowden bad dog, bad dog. 

 

I find it embarrassing how little support he got given how important his contribution to keep governments under public scrutiny he made. Yet you cannot do something as simple as crating an official ID without people complaining about too much government intervention... 

[patrickjp93]

12 minutes ago, tlink said:

that doesn't mean it was his intention. cover him in tar and feathers as much as you want, you have zero proof of bad intentions, we can even argue that he helped the people more than he harmed them. the agents in those countries knew the risks, snowden did not choose what to release or not, the news agents did that, are they traitors too?. occam's razor is at proof here.

A real patriot, just as in days of old, stays behind and rallies the people. He doesn't go fleeing into the arms of far worse tyrants.

 

BS. He harmed them more. Russia and China are both far more malignant forces that are aligned with Iran and North Korea. Giving them any larger influence in world affairs in their current forms does enormous damage to personal freedoms everywhere whether you want to admit it or not.

 

Snowden had every choice on what to release. He had his closest friends hold and release that information in pieces during and after negotiations with the Russians and Chinese.

 

The news agents released it only after it had been aired via Wikileaks and foreign news. Snowden is still the primary fault in this.

6 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

"Agents died because of him" is like "attacks were prevented thanks to Guantanamo" or "attacks were prevented thanks to e-mail mass surveillance". You know... those... attacks... we can't tell much about, but trust me, it helped, it's all justified.  Similarly, trust me, it happened, thousands dead, Snowden bad dog, bad dog. 

 

I find it embarrassing how little support he got given how important his contribution to keep governments under public scrutiny he made. Yet you cannot do something as simple as crating an official ID without people complaining about too much government intervention... 

He only made ignorant people aware of what the vast majority already knew for half a decade.

 

Sarah Harding, Moscow counterintelligence, died by poisoning while escaping Russia within 24 hours of having her identity leaked onto wikileaks thanks to Snowden. That blood is on Snowden's hands.

[tlink]

15 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

A real patriot, just as in days of old, stays behind and rallies the people. He doesn't go fleeing into the arms of far worse tyrants.

 

BS. He harmed them more. Russia and China are both far more malignant forces that are aligned with Iran and North Korea. Giving them any larger influence in world affairs in their current forms does enormous damage to personal freedoms everywhere whether you want to admit it or not.

 

Snowden had every choice on what to release. He had his closest friends hold and release that information in pieces during and after negotiations with the Russians and Chinese.

 

The news agents released it only after it had been aired via Wikileaks and foreign news. Snowden is still the primary fault in this.

He only made ignorant people aware of what the vast majority already knew for half a decade.

 

Sarah Harding, Moscow counterintelligence, died by poisoning while escaping Russia within 24 hours of having her identity leaked onto wikileaks thanks to Snowden. That blood is on Snowden's hands.

give me any evidence of the breach in those personal freedoms bigger than the breach that the mass surveillance was and is. the american government brought this on themselves, if they do not want to hand power to said forces than they should lead the people, not spy on them. Snowden had every choice yes, but he has no control over how things get published. he did not know that the censoring on the files could be removed easily, since he did not censor them all himself by hand. you literally have no ground to stand on in this, its all just opinions that you show, not facts. snowden is only stuck in russia because the us revoked his passport while traveling after the chinese government was trying to extradite him to the US. if you have ANY evidence that things went otherwise than you might have a point, but its just your word against the words of a large group of people that surrounded snowden during the leaks. i favor snowden because his story is the simplest and most logical, anyone could've done it in his situation. it made sense. either show sources or accept already that its just a conspiracy theory.

[Mihle]

I am just gonna say, sources?

[goodtofufriday]

17 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

A real patriot, just as in days of old, stays behind and rallies the people. He doesn't go fleeing into the arms of far worse tyrants.

 

BS. He harmed them more. Russia and China are both far more malignant forces that are aligned with Iran and North Korea. Giving them any larger influence in world affairs in their current forms does enormous damage to personal freedoms everywhere whether you want to admit it or not.

 

Snowden had every choice on what to release. He had his closest friends hold and release that information in pieces during and after negotiations with the Russians and Chinese.

 

The news agents released it only after it had been aired via Wikileaks and foreign news. Snowden is still the primary fault in this.

He only made ignorant people aware of what the vast majority already knew for half a decade.

 

Sarah Harding, Moscow counterintelligence, died by poisoning while escaping Russia within 24 hours of having her identity leaked onto wikileaks thanks to Snowden. That blood is on Snowden's hands.

Got any links to back up what youre saying. Since unless every search engine was purged of this info it seems youre just spouting nonsense and should be ignored. 

[JAKEBAB]

5 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

Sarah Harding, Moscow counterintelligence, died by poisoning while escaping Russia within 24 hours of having her identity leaked onto wikileaks thanks to Snowden.

Link? This is the first im hearing of this would like to read up on it.

 

I've looked on google but can't find anything :S.

[Mihle]

1 minute ago, JAKEBAB said:

Link? This is the first im hearing of this would like to read up on it.

 

I've looked on google but can't find anything :S.

I ether find things about Snowden or things about a singer.

[suicidalfranco]

9 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

A real patriot, just as in days of old, stays behind and rallies the people. He doesn't go fleeing into the arms of far worse tyrants.

[bobhays]

People always say Snowden should've stayed if he were a patriot. That's not how it works when the system is trying to take him in. People are blaming Snowden for leaking information but he wouldn't have to if the government was responsible in the first place.