AMD ZEN Chipset Specs

[Ryujin2003]

Guru 3D press release on new chips ets that will support AM4 socket.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-to-offer-x370b350-and-a320-socket-am4-chipsets.html

 

AMD looks like they are gearing up for full spectrum warfare against Intel. They seem to have listed specific targets of the different budget ranges, and seem to be trying to cater to specific budget groups.

 

http://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-zen-am4-chipset

 

This article provides more insight as well. All AMD chips ets will support unlocked multipliers. No more black edition or other special marketing tactics to provide consumers with locked and unlocking capabilities. AMD also appears to make overclocking a mainstream activity, instead of having this as a reserved right for high end boards.

 

Again, like the usual, tons of speculation and nice to haves, but we will have to wait and see how it plays out. Hopefully AMD is serious. With all of the hypes and promises, I totally understand Linus's reservations on the topic of AMD'S future.

[That Norwegian Guy]

About time RE: overclocking on budgets again

[CostcoSamples]

I think at this point everybody is either openly or secretly hoping AMD Zen is awesome.  

[patrickjp93]

2 minutes ago, That Norwegian Guy said:

About time RE: overclocking on budgets again

Hah! You funny... AMD doesn't want to be the cheap brand anymore, 14nm is not a cheap node, 8-core dies will not have incredibly good yields, and AMD owes JP Morgan 600 million USD in raw cash in a couple years after just dropping money on a new HQ and sinking money into Polaris and Zen without yet breaking even for either one.

 

AMD either needs to soar or get out of the way and give RTG to Intel, everything CPU to Nvidia, and everything APU to both. 

[IAEInferno]

I'm all new to this stuff, I read something about equal specifications of the RX 480 but only uses 95W of power, will it perform like the RX 480 in that regard especially in gaming? Vulkan, Dx 12?

 

 

I'm just confused.

[patrickjp93]

Just now, IAEInferno said:

I'm all new to this stuff, I read something about equal specifications of the RX 480 but only uses 95W of power, will it perform like the RX 480 in that regard especially in gaming? Vulkan, Dx 12?

 

 

I'm just confused.

That is the rumored spec of the Scorpio SOC (6TFlops) but that's going to be at least a 50W CPU and a 90W iGPU even with process tweaks and using Vega architecture with either Zen or Puma+. A more conservative and reasonable (disclosure: mine) bet would be a 200W SOC with 4 3.5GHz cores and a full Rx 480 with integrated HBM to keep down costs for the consoles. 

[DarkBlade2117]

2 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

That is the rumored spec of the Scorpio SOC (6TFlops) but that's going to be at least a 50W CPU and a 90W iGPU even with process tweaks and using Vega architecture with either Zen or Puma+. A more conservative and reasonable (disclosure: mine) bet would be a 200W SOC with 4 3.5GHz cores and a full Rx 480 with integrated HBM to keep down costs for the consoles. 

Wait.. Consoles with RX 480 performance?

[IAEInferno]

Just now, patrickjp93 said:

That is the rumored spec of the Scorpio SOC (6TFlops) but that's going to be at least a 50W CPU and a 90W iGPU even with process tweaks and using Vega architecture with either Zen or Puma+. A more conservative and reasonable (disclosure: mine) bet would be a 200W SOC with 4 3.5GHz cores and a full Rx 480 with integrated HBM to keep down costs for the consoles. 

 

I understood half of what you said, thanks for the explanation though!

[Coaxialgamer]

nice . If this is true it'll be bck to the athlon xp days !

[SuperShires]

Sounds like SFF is a big thing for AMD and Zen, I cant wait!

[DarkBlade2117]

2 hours ago, SuperShires said:

Sounds like SFF is a big thing for AMD and Zen, I cant wait!

Advanced-MICRO-Devices

 

[YongKang]

YES!!! Don't have to pay to Intel for overclocking. Please Zen, be great and slap Intel a good one. I still a bit worried with the RAM speed though. It looks like they are going to limits it to 2400. 

[Doobeedoo]

High end chipset is definitely main appeal, ow and nice as far as OC support they're going.

[SuperShires]

Just now, Doobeedoo said:

High end chipset is definitely main appeal, ow and nice as far as OC support they're going.

Im interested in that high end X300, top spec mini ITX? yes please.

[TheRandomness]

STX overclocking AM4 please. 

[Sreno1]

52 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

I think at this point everybody is either openly or secretly hoping AMD Zen is awesome.  

Anyone who likes lower prices should support Zen and hope it's successful. Competition = lower prices.

[CostcoSamples]

5 minutes ago, Sreno1 said:

Anyone who likes lower prices should support Zen and hope it's successful. Competition = lower prices.

I wonder though...  If Zen sucks, should AMD really still be in the CPU business?  There are other players in the processor market that could easily expand to desktop and laptop CPUs.  Samsung has already shown interest in purchasing AMD.  It's not like there would be a monopoly if AMD went under.  Somebody else would enter the market very quickly.

 

I sincerely hope Zen is everything we want it to be.  If it's awesome I'll probably buy it.  But if it sucks, I'm not going to cry for AMD.

[Notional]

Wasn't that chipset news leaked weeks ago? Anyways, can't wait so see X based ITX motherboards.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Just now, Notional said:

Wasn't that chipset news leaked weeks ago? Anyways, can't wait so see X based ITX motherboards.

The am4 non zen ones were, but not the top zen ones.

 

Also same.

[Misanthrope]

56 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

That is the rumored spec of the Scorpio SOC (6TFlops) but that's going to be at least a 50W CPU and a 90W iGPU even with process tweaks and using Vega architecture with either Zen or Puma+. A more conservative and reasonable (disclosure: mine) bet would be a 200W SOC with 4 3.5GHz cores and a full Rx 480 with integrated HBM to keep down costs for the consoles. 

200 watts, damn how is that any better than an i5 and a 1060? Seems quite stupid. I think best you can get out of an APU will be 460 or slightly worst.

[Ryujin2003]

1 minute ago, CostcoSamples said:

I wonder though...  If Zen sucks, should AMD really still be in the CPU business?  There are other players in the processor market that could easily expand to desktop and laptop CPUs.  Samsung has already shown interest in purchasing AMD.  It's not like there would be a monopoly if AMD went under.  Somebody else would enter the market very quickly.

 

I sincerely hope Zen is everything we want it to be.  If it's awesome I'll probably buy it.  But if it sucks, I'm not going to cry for AMD.

Blackberry still sells phones, so that is a hard question to answer. They might benefit for the leadership of answer other corporation, but I answer bothersome agree, someone else will step up. I think it's mainly Intel and AMD for mainstream consumer PC CPU's; however, I think that will drastically change when we end the silicon Era in favor of more efficient materials.

 

I do have faith in AMD. They knew their previous generation didn't perform answernotherlsogs expected, so I don't blame them for not wasting time or money on recreating those CPUs. I do think Intel and even NVIDIA are a little nervous.

 

Even during the WAN show, Linus commented on the unprecedented GPU andndlonelways VR news drops. It seems like they are tying to pull a Trump card on AMD. Everytime AMD talks about what it's planning on bringing, Intel or NVIDIA seem to counter with TITAN XX-XP 1080 ExtremUltimateEditions or drop hints of a 10nm future generations.

 

If AMD does well with the future CPU, APU, and GPUs, then there will finally be some competition. If not, they've shot themselves in the other foot, (because excavator  was the first foot).

[Ryujin2003]

I'm also seeing a bunch of gossip regarding Apples interest in Zen APU. http://techfrag.com/2016/09/27/amd-zen-soc-opted-upcoming-apple-macbook-pro/

 

More rumors, but I wonder what would happen to the market if Apple did make a shift. That would be huge. But I don't think Apple would change unless they had evidence, such as a production sample, to test. Apple would probably require some hardcore evidence, not engineering samples dipped in a bucket of purified unicorn tears and fanboy prayers.

[TheCakeIsNaOH]

2 hours ago, YongKang said:

YES!!! Don't have to pay to Intel for overclocking. Please Zen, be great and slap Intel a good one. I still a bit worried with the RAM speed though. It looks like they are going to limits it to 2400. 

 

 

 

Z170 only supports 2400- any higher any you have to enable XMP- before XMP you had to manually adjust your ram to a faster speed(like x58 will default to 1066mhz and I have to manually up it to 1600).

[YongKang]

16 minutes ago, relaxative said:

Z170 only supports 2400- any higher any you have to enable XMP- before XMP you had to manually adjust your ram to a faster speed(like x58 will default to 1066mhz and I have to manually up it to 1600).

Zen supports XMP or not? I haven't seen a guide which teach people to manually oc their Ram.

[Sreno1]

2 hours ago, CostcoSamples said:

I wonder though...  If Zen sucks, should AMD really still be in the CPU business?  There are other players in the processor market that could easily expand to desktop and laptop CPUs.  Samsung has already shown interest in purchasing AMD.  It's not like there would be a monopoly if AMD went under.  Somebody else would enter the market very quickly.

 

I sincerely hope Zen is everything we want it to be.  If it's awesome I'll probably buy it.  But if it sucks, I'm not going to cry for AMD.

I mean right now AMD CPU's are basically a non-competitor to Intel.