What is my bottleneck?

[bmx95ify]

Hey guys!

I'm new here, the only posts before this one were for giveaways XDDDD

Anyway, I have a question that's bothering me: What is my bottleneck? Whenever I play games I feel like I'm bottlenecking somewhere, but couldn't ever figure out what is the cause of the problem.

I have an Asus M5A97 R2.0 mobo, AMD FX-8320E (yes I know) and a GTX 660. 

The games I mostly play are: CS:GO, Rust (that is where I feel like my PC is underperforming), and maybe Portal 2 or some simulator like ETS 2 or ATS 2. I am also looking forward to Forza Horizon 3.

Thanks!

[Godlygamer23]

Why do you think your PC is underperforming?

[Gravemind]

Your GPU. I had a friend with a 660 and it used to be good, but it's certainly past its prime.

[bmx95ify]

Just now, Godlygamer23 said:

Why do you think your PC is underperforming?

It seems slow. I've had games like TDU 2 (which shouldn't be hard to run) be pretty laggy for me.

Also, I don't think that my GPU would be able to run Forza Horizon 3 at high settings, along with other new games.

Also #2: The reason why I want to play FH3 on high settings is to see the detail. I haven't experienced a game like this ever before. Maybe it's just hype.

[bmx95ify]

5 minutes ago, Gravemind said:

Your GPU. I had a friend with a 660 and it used to be good, but it's certainly past its prime.

I know it's a 2012 GPU. I was thinking of upgrading to a 1060, maybe 1070 or even 1080 (if I got a small loan of a dead meme) by March or so.

[Jack Dvorak]

1 minute ago, bmx95ify said:

I know it's a 2012 GPU. I was thinking of upgrading to a 1060, maybe 1070 or even 1080 (if I got a small loan of a dead meme) by March or so.

Here is that small loan of a dead meme to get that 1060. BTW that cpu will bottleneck a 1070 and 1080

[Godlygamer23]

5 minutes ago, bmx95ify said:

It seems slow. I've had games like TDU 2 (which shouldn't be hard to run) be pretty laggy for me.

Also, I don't think that my GPU would be able to run Forza Horizon 3 at high settings, along with other new games.

Also #2: The reason why I want to play FH3 on high settings is to see the detail. I haven't experienced a game like this ever before. Maybe it's just hype.

What's your GPU usage in CSGO?

[bmx95ify]

2 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

What's your GPU usage in CSGO?

Heck, I actually don't know how to do this. Is it in net_graph 1?

[DarkBlade2117]

1 minute ago, bmx95ify said:

Heck, I actually don't know how to do this. Is it in net_graph 1?

Mostly the GPU, I'd see how the GTX 1050 performs or just get a RX 460/470, I wouldn't personally pair a 8370E with a 1060 but you could put it with a 1060/70 or RX 480/490 if you plan on getting a CPU upgrade to either Zen or switch to Intel

[Godlygamer23]

3 minutes ago, bmx95ify said:

Heck, I actually don't know how to do this. Is it in net_graph 1?

Download MSI Afterburner, launch it while playing a game, close the game after 5 or so minutes of gameplay, and then look at the GPU usage graph and tell me what you see.

[bmx95ify]

Just now, DarkBlade2117 said:

Mostly the GPU, I'd see how the GTX 1050 performs or just get a RX 460/470, I wouldn't personally pair a 8370E with a 1060 but you could put it with a 1060/70 or RX 480/490 if you plan on getting a CPU upgrade to either Zen or switch to Intel

Sorry, but If I'm changing my GPU I will go only for 4GB+. I know that it doesn't really matter, but I want to see for myself.

I am considering changing my CPU and mobo instead of upgrading to a 1060.

[DarkBlade2117]

1 minute ago, bmx95ify said:

Sorry, but If I'm changing my GPU I will go only for 4GB+. I know that it doesn't really matter, but I want to see for myself.

I am considering changing my CPU and mobo instead of upgrading to a 1060.

4GB is fine, my 290 kicks ass in 1080p.

Anyway the 460/470/480 all have 4GB variants, I'd personally go for a 480 if you plan on keeping it for awhile. Despite what people say, AMD performs so far except for 1 game has performed much much better in DX12/Vulkan which more devs will start to incorporate.

I don't know if id upgrade your CPU/Mobo yet, with Kaby Lake and Zen around the corner Skylake will drop in price, especially in the used market.

[bmx95ify]

2 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

4GB is fine, my 290 kicks ass in 1080p.

Anyway the 460/470/480 all have 4GB variants, I'd personally go for a 480 if you plan on keeping it for awhile. Despite what people say, AMD performs so far except for 1 game has performed much much better in DX12/Vulkan which more devs will start to incorporate.

I don't know if id upgrade your CPU/Mobo yet, with Kaby Lake and Zen around the corner Skylake will drop in price, especially in the used market.

"Sorry I couldn't hear your comment my PC is too loud"

Should I buy an aftermarket cooler for my CPU?

Spoiler

YES

I don't live in USA or the UK, so I don't really use the used market here. You can't really trust any person here in central europe XDDDD

[bmx95ify]

9 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Download MSI Afterburner, launch it while playing a game, close the game after 5 or so minutes of gameplay, and then look at the GPU usage graph and tell me what you see.

I am in the process on installing it, though I think I will test my usage tommorow. It's 01:41 rn in Poland.

[DarkBlade2117]

1 minute ago, bmx95ify said:

"Sorry I couldn't hear your comment my PC is too loud"

Should I buy an aftermarket cooler for my CPU?

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YES

 

Eh, that's $20-$35.

I'd suggest a BeQuiet! PURE ROCK ir a Cryorig M9a for your CPU, still stand with my RX 480 statement though.

Also what's the rest if your specs? PSU mostly

[bmx95ify]

1 minute ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

Eh, that's $20-$35.

I'd suggest a BeQuiet! PURE ROCK ir a Cryorig M9a for your CPU, still stand with my RX 480 statement though.

Also what's the rest if your specs? PSU mostly

PSU: Antec 500W

WD Hard Drive (1TB)

8GB of ram at 936Mhz (??? should be about 1k ???)

[Godlygamer23]

41 minutes ago, bmx95ify said:

PSU: Antec 500W

WD Hard Drive (1TB)

8GB of ram at 936Mhz (??? should be about 1k ???)

What Antec power supply?

[bmx95ify]

9 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

What Antec power supply?

VP500PC

[bmx95ify]

11 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Download MSI Afterburner, launch it while playing a game, close the game after 5 or so minutes of gameplay, and then look at the GPU usage graph and tell me what you see.

I see 60-70% usage.

[Godlygamer23]

44 minutes ago, bmx95ify said:

I see 60-70% usage.

What is your maximum temperature? 

In the graph for the GPU temperature, you should see a minimum value and a maximum value(and that applies to each respective graph). What's the highest value that you're seeing?

[bmx95ify]

1 minute ago, Godlygamer23 said:

What is your maximum temperature? 

In the graph for the GPU temperature, you should see a minimum value and a maximum value(and that applies to each respective graph). What's the highest value that you're seeing?

99 degrees celsius. fuck

[Godlygamer23]

Just now, bmx95ify said:

99 degrees celsius. fuck

Your GPU is overheating big time. 

[bmx95ify]

1 minute ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Your GPU is overheating big time. 

I knew it. How do I overcome this issue? More fans?

This is how my setup looks.

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http://imgur.com/a/tch8d

 

[Godlygamer23]

1 minute ago, bmx95ify said:

I knew it. How do I overcome this issue? More fans?

This is how my setup looks.

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http://imgur.com/a/tch8d

 

Can you get an internal picture of your computer? How many case fans do you have? And what GTX 660 do you have?

[bmx95ify]

Just now, Godlygamer23 said:

Can you get an internal picture of your computer? How many fans do you have? And what GTX 660 do you have?

Pic

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http://imgur.com/a/FAngN

4 fans (1 pc, 1 cpu, 2 gpu). Gigabyte GTX 660.

Also, I didn't assemble the PC.