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1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

It will work, but id get a z170 board instead.

z170 doesn't support 4th generation CPUs

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The 950 pro is a waste of money for almost every possible person interested in buying it.

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If I was you, I would use the 950 pro for OS and games, and use a HDD for movies.

Also I would rather get sm961 (if it is in stock) instead of the 950 pro as it is better for around the same price

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850 EVO because

1) games and files take up a lot of space

2) games and movies and browsing get no benefit from 2000MBps+ speeds of NVME

3) unless you are a video editor or data analyst as your daily job, NVME is a waste of money

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1 minute ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

The 950 pro is a waste of money for almost every possible person interested in buying it.

Well it is a good choice for people who need NVMe but don't want to spend ridiculous amounts of money

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A 2013 laptop with a regular sized battery still has better battery life than a 2017 laptop with a massive battery! I think this is a testament to apple's ability at making laptops, or maybe how little CPU technology has improved even 4+ years later (at least, until the recent introduction of 15W 4 core CPUs). Anyway, I'm never going to get a 35W CPU laptop again unless battery technology becomes ~5x better than as it is in 2018.

Apple knows how to make proper consumer-grade laptops (they don't know how to make pro laptops though). I guess this mostly software power efficiency related, but getting a mac makes perfect sense if you want a portable/powerful laptop that can do anything you want it to with great battery life.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, secendFTW said:

Hi 

does the SSD samsung 950 pro fit in this motheboard 

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty Z97 Professional/

and what would you prefer the 

SSD 850 EVO 1TB 

or the 950 512 GB 

my use: play games , movies and browse 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, jkeasley said:

not NVMe, and slow (in terms of iops) compared to the 950 pro

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A 2013 laptop with a regular sized battery still has better battery life than a 2017 laptop with a massive battery! I think this is a testament to apple's ability at making laptops, or maybe how little CPU technology has improved even 4+ years later (at least, until the recent introduction of 15W 4 core CPUs). Anyway, I'm never going to get a 35W CPU laptop again unless battery technology becomes ~5x better than as it is in 2018.

Apple knows how to make proper consumer-grade laptops (they don't know how to make pro laptops though). I guess this mostly software power efficiency related, but getting a mac makes perfect sense if you want a portable/powerful laptop that can do anything you want it to with great battery life.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, secendFTW said:

Hi 

does the SSD samsung 950 pro fit in this motheboard 

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty Z97 Professional/

and what would you prefer the 

SSD 850 EVO 1TB 

or the 950 512 GB 

my use: play games , movies and browse 

 

 

and if you only play games, etc, then just get a 2TB SSHD

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13 minutes ago, secendFTW said:

Hi 

does the SSD samsung 950 pro fit in this motheboard 

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty Z97 Professional/

and what would you prefer the 

SSD 850 EVO 1TB 

or the 950 512 GB 

my use: play games , movies and browse 

 

 

and if you only play games, etc, then just get a 2TB SSHD

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12 minutes ago, rattacko123 said:

If I was you, I would use the 950 pro for OS and games, and use a HDD for movies.

Also I would rather get sm961 (if it is in stock) instead of the 950 pro as it is better for around the same price

For OS and games, an 850 evo and 950 pro perform essentially the same.

http://techreport.com/review/29221/samsung-950-pro-512gb-ssd-reviewed

 

Its only in transferring large files where nvme drives actually perform significantly better than ahci ones. In day to day tasks that the average user does, an 850 evo will feel identical to a 950 pro. It's only for content creators and stuff that an nvme drive actually makes sense.

 

That's why for any gamer out there I always recommend the 850 evo. It's a good drive that won't let you down and that will perform identically to a 950 pro in an average user's workload.

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11 minutes ago, rattacko123 said:

Well it is a good choice for people who need NVMe but don't want to spend ridiculous amounts of money

No actually isn't, because who needs NVMe? 

 

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Intel's new firmware does seem to have helped the 750 along, but it still boots quite a bit slower than its contemporaries. The 950 Pro boots promptly, as fast as any run-of-the-mill SATA drive. NVMe may not make your computer boot any faster, but the 950 Pro is proof that it doesn't have to slow you down, either.

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I'm running out of ways to say that modern SSDs all perform mostly the same in real-world load time tests, even when their scores in synthetics vastly differ. The 950 Pro does a fine job loading our productivity programs. Let's move on.

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Margin of error to maximum of 3% improvements in literally the most I/O intensive stuff a prosumer is going to be using...

 

Can we please all come together and stop recommending it to consumers? If you want the e-peen, sweet go for it. But lets all agree it has next to no practical worth.

 

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18 minutes ago, jkeasley said:

Like seriously, you dont need an ssd if you only play games, watch movies and browse the internet

Jump between SSHD and SSD is larger than the jump between HDD and SSHD, and SSHD suffers from literally all the same bad things HDDs do (including the dreaded I/O holds on startup after years of use).

 

But no you don't need an SSD. It is however a "good" time value of money investment.

 

12 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

For OS and games, an 850 evo and 950 pro perform essentially the same.

http://techreport.com/review/29221/samsung-950-pro-512gb-ssd-reviewed

 

Its only in transferring large files where nvme drives actually perform significantly better than ahci ones. In day to day tasks that the average user does, an 850 evo will feel identical to a 950 pro. It's only for content creators and stuff that an nvme drive actually makes sense.

 

That's why for any gamer out there I always recommend the 850 evo. It's a good drive that won't let you down and that will perform identically to a 950 pro in an average user's workload.

Not even then in most cases.... See http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-950-pro-ssd,4313-5.html

 

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12 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

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Well in that case, the 850 evo is the better choice. If you need extra performance, the Intel 600P is a decent choice. 950 pro is only for people who need lots of really fast cache/temporary storage. 

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PSU: EVGA G2 750w

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Dell was having a $600 off sale for the fully specced out model, so I decided to get it :P

 

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Fully specced out early 2013 Macbook "pro" with gt 650m and constant 105c temperature on the CPU (GPU is 80-90C) when doing anything intensive...

A 2013 laptop with a regular sized battery still has better battery life than a 2017 laptop with a massive battery! I think this is a testament to apple's ability at making laptops, or maybe how little CPU technology has improved even 4+ years later (at least, until the recent introduction of 15W 4 core CPUs). Anyway, I'm never going to get a 35W CPU laptop again unless battery technology becomes ~5x better than as it is in 2018.

Apple knows how to make proper consumer-grade laptops (they don't know how to make pro laptops though). I guess this mostly software power efficiency related, but getting a mac makes perfect sense if you want a portable/powerful laptop that can do anything you want it to with great battery life.

 

 

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Could meet in the middle of all your options with an intel 600p 512gb drive for around the same price.

 

Check the asrock website, your mobo has had a few nvme bios updates.

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1 hour ago, AlphaPolack said:

If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch

More like buying a Lambo for street only use.

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