pcie 4.0 Will 1080 Ti have PCIe 4.0?

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I've been looking online for about 20 minutes, and I can't find any sources confirming or denying whether or not the 1080 Ti will have PCIe 4.0; does know more details on this?

Thanks,

 

(also, is it just me or has the text for posts become bold?)

[2FA]

1080ti isn't even confirmed to exist.

[Energycore]

7 minutes ago, rm -rf said:

I've been looking online for about 20 minutes, and I can't find any sources confirming or denying whether or not the 1080 Ti will have PCIe 4.0; does know more details on this?

Thanks,

 

(also, is it just me or has the text for posts become bold?)

It's like asking whether the 2024 president of the US will be a self proclaimed feminist.

[Curufinwe_wins]

doubtful. Pcie 4.0 probably wouldn't come until after cannonlake, and by then the 10-series gpu will be far obsolete.

[i_build_nanosuits]

There probably won't even be a 1080ti unless AMD come up with something to compete with the titan XP or something (very unlikely, maybe in 2017 they will)...nvidia will not lower the price or trow out a bargain GPU for the fun of it...Titan XP is the king, and 1200$ is the cost if you want that level of performance, end of the story

[Sakkura]

The final PCIe 4.0 specification is supposed to arrive next year. Then it usually takes a little while before consumer motherboards launch with support for it. In addition, PCIe 3.0 still has way plenty bandwidth for regular graphics cards. And all the other Pascal-based cards use PCIe 3.0, including the Titan XP that the 1080 Ti would presumably be a cut-down version of.

 

So I would consider it highly unlikely that it would support PCIe 4.0.

[ARikozuM]

I would love to see PCIe 4.0 in consumer boards! Then again, the 1080 is barely affected, if at all, going from x16 to x8. Unless the true performance comes from allowing GPU's to use x4 for the same performance as PCIe 3.0 x16/8 with no performance loss as less lanes would be better for SLI and expansion cards.

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1 hour ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

There probably won't even be a 1080ti unless AMD come up with something to compete with the titan XP or something (very unlikely, maybe in 2017 they will)...nvidia will not lower the price or trow out a bargain GPU for the fun of it...Titan XP is the king, and 1200$ is the cost if you want that level of performance, end of the story

That's a fair point, though I don't want to be running XP, I need the features in Windows 9.

[mariushm]

It's unlikely but not impossible.

 

If gtx1080 ti uses the same chip used on gtx1080, just better binned (with bigger potential for overclocking) then the video card in theory should only support what the current video cards with this chip support. Changing the internals of a chip to support a new version of something would be very expensive (basically hundreds of thousands of dollars to redesign that section of the chip and to manufacture a  limited number of chips for testing the changes which would take a few months and then a month or so for testing and then another few months to actually start manufacturing the new revision of the chip.

 

However, I said "not impossible" because technically the pci-e v4.0 is technically similar to pci-e v3.0 , the way the bits are packaged in data packets and sent through the wires on the motherboard is the same, just the speed is much higher, besides some changes that would make it easier for devices to reduce power consumed by the section of the chip making pci-e v4.0 possible.

 

Basically, it's like the differences between DDR3 running at 1866 Mhz and DDR3 running at 2600-2933 Mhz.  If the section in the chip that handles pci-express was over-engineered with very good transistors and fine tuned stuff inside, it may be possible for nVIdia to just upload a new version of the microcode inside the chip (think of it as a new bios for the video card) which would make the chip say it supports pci-e v4.0 and achieve speeds higher than what's possible on v3.0

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

There probably won't even be a 1080ti unless AMD come up with something to compete with the titan XP or something (very unlikely, maybe in 2017 they will)...nvidia will not lower the price or trow out a bargain GPU for the fun of it...Titan XP is the king, and 1200$ is the cost if you want that level of performance, end of the story

 

1 hour ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

1080ti isn't even confirmed to exist.

Though hasn't the GeForce lineup always been upgraded every year since the GeForce 256 SDR upgraded to the GeForce 256 DDR?