NVIDIA Launches GeForce GTX 10 Series For Notebooks

[VagabondWraith]

 

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NVIDIA today launched long awaited mobile GeForce GTX 10 series lineup, based on the new Pascal architecture. The initial mobile GTX 10 series lineup comprises of the GTX 1080 Mobile, GTX 1070 Mobile, and the GTX 1060 Mobile.

Unlike the previous generation, NVIDIA hasn’t cut down on the number of CUDA cores with the mobile offerings. The GTX 1080 Mobile, based on the GP104 silicon, comes with the full 2560 CUDA cores found on the desktop card. It also gets 8GB of 256-bit GDDR5X memory, clocked at 10 Gbps.

The GTX 1070 Mobile on the other hand actually comes with higher number of CUDA cores than its desktop counterpart. While the desktop GTX 1070 comes with 1920 CUDA cores, the GTX 1070 Mobile packs 2048 CUDA cores. It is obviously clocked lower though, with a 1443 MHz core and 1645 MHz boost clock. As for memory, the GTX 1070 Mobile gets the same 8GB of GDDR5 memory as the desktop GTX 1070 card.

The GTX 1060 Mobile features 1280 CUDA cores and 6GB of GDDR5 memory on a 192-bit interface. It comes with a 1405 MHz core and a boost clock of 1569 MHz.

You can expect to see notebooks powered by the new GTX 10 series GPUs to crop up soon. Some of the manufacturers that are ready with GTX 10 series equipped notebooks include MSI, Asus, Eurocom, Razer, Acer, HP, Gigabyte, Clevo, and Hasee.
 

LOTS of interesting stuff here. Lots of options shown in the link. I'm interested in seeing the cooling on these beasts as it's going to be quite difficult. Nice to see NVIDIA hasn't cut down CUDA cores this time, and in fact the 1070 mobile has 2048 compared to 1920 on the desktop. Will be interesting to see how all these stack up as they release over the coming months.

 

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[Misanthrope]

4 minutes ago, Tedny said:

Wait, 1070 mobile is better than 1070 desktop, but lower clock

Probably for easier cooling. Though it's debatable if more cores at less clock help much. 

[Coaxialgamer]

How the f*** are they planning to cool that ? The gtx 980 at ~150W was already hard to cool , how are they planning to do so now with  the 180W gtx 1080 , ~150W gtx 1070 and 120W gtx 1060 ?

[79wjd]

13 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

How the f*** are they planning to cool that ? The gtx 980 at ~150W was already hard to cool , how are they planning to do so now with  the 180W gtx 1080 , ~150W gtx 1070 and 120W gtx 1060 ?

The desktop 1080 has a 180w TDP, not the mobile 1080. The mobile versions are clocked lower and likely better binned. 

[Coaxialgamer]

12 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

The desktop 1080 has a 180w TDP, not the mobile 1080. The mobile versions are clocked lower and likely better binned. 

The article didn't say anything about being underclocked.  And nvidia can't afford to bin chips for a mass market mobile part.  They could with the gtx 980 for laptoo,  as only a few retailers sold them,  and to a select audience.  Mobile parts are typically much more mainstream.  And even so,  even if it does have a lower TDP,  heat density will be higher,  thus harder to cool. 

[Hunter259]

28 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

How the f*** are they planning to cool that ? The gtx 980 at ~150W was already hard to cool , how are they planning to do so now with  the 180W gtx 1080 , ~150W gtx 1070 and 120W gtx 1060 ?

None of those will have that TDP. They will be much lower in clocks and voltage.

[Coaxialgamer]

Just now, Hunter259 said:

None of those will have that TDP. They will be much lower in clocks and voltage.

Once again,  they didn't say anything about underclocking on parts other than the 1070m. Not to mention heat DENSITY will be higher. 

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

The article didn't say anything about being underclocked.  And nvidia can't afford to bin chips for a mass market mobile part.  They could with the gtx 980 for laptoo,  as only a few retailers sold them,  and to a select audience.  Mobile parts are typically much more mainstream.  And even so,  even if it does have a lower TDP,  heat density will be higher,  thus harder to cool. 

The 1060 and 1070 both have clocks listed below that of their desktop counterparts. It's only logical to assume the 1080 would be the same way. And mobile parts in general are usually better binned due to the less efficient cooling. Plus a mobile 1080 will NEVER be mainstream.

 

And again, the 1080 will still be easier to cool than the 980 was. So your point about cooling is moot. 

[Hunter259]

1 minute ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Once again,  they didn't say anything about underclocking on parts other than the 1070m. Not to mention heat DENSITY will be higher. 

Yes it does. It says it in the graph. Come on dude. It WILL be a lower voltage, lower speed chip for sure.

[Hunter259]

9 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

The 1060 and 1070 both have clocks listed below that of their desktop counterparts. It's only logical to assume the 1080 would be the same way. And mobile parts in general are usually better binned due to the less efficient cooling. Plus a mobile 1080 will NEVER be mainstream.

 

And again, the 1080 will still be easier to cool than the 980 was. So your point about cooling is moot. 

No it will not. Higher heat density requires a better cooler.

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

No it will not. Higher heat density requires a better cooler.

I must have missed the fact that Skylake runs significantly hotter than any generation before it. 

[Hunter259]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

I must have missed the fact that Skylake runs significantly hotter than any generation before it. 

Because the die's are of similar size (i think) and that really isn't a very good comparison. The heat density of Pascal is higher. The 1080 has brought back the original titan cooler as the 980's solution simply wasn't good enough. They took Maxwell and shrunk it and made it have a much higher frequency. It is not easier to cool.

[Inkz]

So when will we actually see this in laptops?

[Tech Inquisition]

1 hour ago, Tedny said:

Wait, 1070 mobile is better than 1070 desktop, but lower clock

Not actually better, almost similar due to the lower thermal and power restrictions.

 

1 hour ago, Coaxialgamer said:

The article didn't say anything about being underclocked.  And nvidia can't afford to bin chips for a mass market mobile part.  They could with the gtx 980 for laptoo,  as only a few retailers sold them,  and to a select audience.  Mobile parts are typically much more mainstream.  And even so,  even if it does have a lower TDP,  heat density will be higher,  thus harder to cool. 

They actually did, the silicone for the mobile units differ from the desktop SKU's...

 

21 minutes ago, Inkz said:

So when will we actually see this in laptops?

Paper launched today... expect to see notebooks rolling out by beginning of September.

[rattacko123]

they should've made the desktop 1070 2048 cores in the first place. Now mobile 1070 is better than desktop (when clocked the same)

[themctipers]

2 hours ago, VagabondWraith said:

 

LOTS of interesting stuff here. Lots of options shown in the link. I'm interested in seeing the cooling on these beasts as it's going to be quite difficult. Nice to see NVIDIA hasn't cut down CUDA cores this time, and in fact the 1070 mobile has 2048 compared to 1920 on the desktop. Will be interesting to see how all these stack up as they release over the coming months.

 

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but

who fucking cares?
 

i mean who can afford a GTX 1080m laptop here right now?

[Tech Inquisition]

4 minutes ago, rattacko123 said:

they should've made the desktop 1070 2048 cores in the first place. Now mobile 1070 is better than desktop (when clocked the same)

If it ever will get there is debatable...

[Nowak]

Oh, nice! One of my friends is looking to upgrade to a new laptop this year and was waiting on the GTX 10 series to launch on laptops. He'll like this.

[Tech Inquisition]

I'd definitely keep the 1070 mobile version in mind when I one day replace my Alienware 15 '15 with GTX970M

[Castdeath97]

5 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

How the f*** are they planning to cool that ? The gtx 980 at ~150W was already hard to cool , how are they planning to do so now with  the 180W gtx 1080 , ~150W gtx 1070 and 120W gtx 1060 ?

According to Nvidia per LTTs video on these cards the:

 

The "mobile" 1060 has the same TDP as the 970m (around 100W)

 

The "mobile" 1070 has the same TDP as the 980m (around 122W)

 

The "mobile" 1080 has the same TDP as the last notebook 980 (around 165W)

 

So, we lost around 20Watts or so with every card. While it does still seem a bit farfetched it's doable. Even then we are dealing with a massive increase for the 1060, we jumped from 65W to 100W! 

 

I really hope this TDP increase doesn't translate to price as well, let's be honest the 1080 "notebook edition" wasn't cheap. I hope that at the very least the 1060 laptops would sit somewhere around the 1300-1600 region.

[Tech Inquisition]

Aussie pricing for GTX 1070 MSI laptops are basically A$500 more than the original GTX970M versions at the moment on average.

[kiska3]

*Sigh* This will cost an arm and a leg.

Already got pricing from one retailer

[WereCat]

6 minutes ago, kiska3 said:

*Sigh* This will cost an arm and a leg.

Already got pricing from one retailer

Is that USD? If yes then damn...

[Thony]

Maxwell was supposed to be desktop grade gpus and look what happened, they cut the gpus down anyway...

[kiska3]

Just now, WereCat said:

Is that USD? If yes then damn...

This is AUD, but in USD it won't be too much difference.

$2599 one will probably cost $1899(?) USD

$2999 one will probably cost $2199(?) USD

$3599 one will probably cost $2599(?) USD

$3999 one will probably cost $2999(?) USD