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NVIDIA Launches GeForce GTX 10 Series For Notebooks

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17 minutes ago, kiska3 said:

*Sigh* This will cost an arm and a leg. :(

Already got pricing from one retailer

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HOLY SHIT!

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1 minute ago, Castdeath97 said:

HOLY SHIT!

Indeed! These are Australian prices however.......

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1 hour ago, Castdeath97 said:

According to Nvidia per LTTs video on these cards the:

 

The "mobile" 1060 has the same TDP as the 970m (around 100W)

 

The "mobile" 1070 has the same TDP as the 980m (around 122W)

 

The "mobile" 1080 has the same TDP as the last notebook 980 (around 165W)

 

So, we lost around 20Watts or so with every card. While it does still seem a bit farfetched it's doable. Even then we are dealing with a massive increase for the 1060, we jumped from 65W to 100W! 

 

I really hope this TDP increase doesn't translate to price as well, let's be honest the 1080 "notebook edition" wasn't cheap. I hope that at the very least the 1060 laptops would sit somewhere around the 1300-1600 region.

I'd be interested to see how it translates into battery run time.

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Clevo 15,4" model with desktop CPU and no dedicated GPU is cheap, like ~850-800 USD locally here. Add even basic dGPU and the prices start doubling or tripling quickly.

 

We need way more external GPU options for better price/performance ratios if someone doesn't need to carry 10XX with him/her.

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1 hour ago, riklaunim said:

Clevo 15,4" model with desktop CPU and no dedicated GPU is cheap, like ~850-800 USD locally here. Add even basic dGPU and the prices start doubling or tripling quickly.

 

We need way more external GPU options for better price/performance ratios if someone doesn't need to carry 10XX with him/her.

eGPU is wonky as fuck. Not portable either.

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these chips and USB C could well mean having a laptop and desktop will soon be a thing of the past, and you can just get a laptop and a dock. 

 

i have an XPS 15 for on the go, and a 6700k/1080 desktop at home. my laptop with a 1080 instead of the 960m would be lovely

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2 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

eGPU is wonky as fuck. Not portable either.

Plus expensive and has to deal with some notebooks CPU limitations (looking at you razer stealth).

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Why didn't they just put an M after the model number like the last gens? It would have been so much shorter...

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Pretty cool. Will be interesting to see reviews and real performance benchmarks. I would get one but I don't really need a "gaming" laptop for on the go gaming. My rMBP does a decent enough job playing WoW and CSGO when traveling. 

 

But now I am sort of curious as to who Apple will use for their next 15" rMBP dGPU. I'm assuming they'll stick with AMD for a while, but it would be pretty neat to see something like a 1050 or something in the next refresh. 

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14 hours ago, Hunter259 said:

Because the die's are of similar size (i think) and that really isn't a very good comparison. The heat density of Pascal is higher. The 1080 has brought back the original titan cooler as the 980's solution simply wasn't good enough. They took Maxwell and shrunk it and made it have a much higher frequency. It is not easier to cool.

Skylake (6700k) is 30% smaller at 122mm compared to Haswel (4790k), which was 177mm. Ivy Bridge at 160mm is more of a fair comparison due to Haswell still having FIVR and a non-shitty TIM. 

 

Pascal runs hotter in general (and has a higher listed tdp) than Maxwell did. That doesn't mean it automatically comes from the higher density of the chip, the chip itself just runs hotter due to being clocked higher and thus needs a beefier cooler. 

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Just now, djdwosk97 said:

Skylake (6700k) is 30% smaller at 122mm compared to Haswel (4790k), which was 177mm. Ivy Bridge at 160mm is more of a fair comparison due to Haswell still having FIVR and a non-shitty TIM. 

 

Pascal runs hotter in general (and has a higher listed tdp) than Maxwell did. That doesn't mean it automatically comes from the higher density of the chip, the chip itself just runs hotter due to being clocked higher and thus needs a beefier cooler. As for the cooler, Nvidia likely wanted to leave more headroom for GPU Boost 3.0 and some overclocking (especially considering the $100 price premium).

Reason why I say CPU's are not a good comparison is there are 3 things in between the die and the cooler itself while a GPU has one. A CPU has a thermal transfer material between it and the IHS and then another thing of material between that and the cooler while a GPU just has TIM and the cooler so it's not a fair comparison. But anytime you do not significantly drop the TDP of a chip and make it smaller it will be harder to cool than a chip that has a larger die and the same TDP. It's simple physics.

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8 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

eGPU is wonky as fuck. Not portable either.

That's correct, but still the only reason I had to upgrade my laptop or dump it in favour of PC was GPU. I could pay shit-ton of money for MXM based gaming laptop with some upgrade options and hope the vendor won't block upgrade to newer compatible GPU. But still I would pay a lot, got a heavy laptop, and over time loose a lot of money ;)

 

And the only need for better-than-integrated GPU for me are games. PyCharm, Docker, Python and what not from the dev toolkit doesn't use CUDA cores in my case ;) So they only place I need eGPU would be home, and a dock would work. Others may have reversed cases with up to Quadro GPUs at work...

 

I hope Clevo meets MSI - MSI gives their PCIe x16 connector while Clevo their lightweight laptop with no dGPU and up to desktop SkyLake CPU, sane keyboard layout and no flex, good cooling etc.

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