RX 480 vs GTX 1060

[Bleedingyamato]

18 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Ok.

 

So this is how things work in GPUs and CPUs.

 

Normally one year a company focuses on making a new architecture which has better performance

 

The next year they make a new architecture with the same deisgn as the previous one but built on a different manufacturing process.

 

 

I see.  So you mean that while there will likely be a 1080ti it will use the same design and manufacturing process as other 1000 series cards and so won't be any better for DX12?

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Bleedingyamato said:

I see.  So you mean that while there will likely be a 1080ti it will use the same design and manufacturing process as other 1000 series cards and so won't be any better for DX12?

Yes it will use same manufacturing process and same architecture. SO it won't be better for DX 12.

[App4that]

What is so hard to understand about DX12? Seriously? DX12 is not asynchronous compute. Asynchronous compute is a feature of DX12 that the developers are responsible for implementing, or not. 

[GirlFromYonder]

5 minutes ago, App4that said:

What is so hard to understand about DX12? Seriously? DX12 is not asynchronous compute. Asynchronous compute is a feature of DX12 that the developers are responsible for implementing, or not. 

but it is the future right?

[Sintezza]

Funny to see all those people say that the reference cooler of the RX480 is SHIT... yada yada.

Well as far as i concerned the Founders Editions coolers are just as shit.

 

As you can see trowing shit at one or the other company as fansboys allways do, doesnt make a whole lot of sense.

You should look at things objectivaly, wenn the GTX1060 gets out, we will see some compairissons on both cards.

Then we know which card is the best price to performance buy.

Till now there is totaly nothing too say about it.

 

 

[Briggsy]

10 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

but it is the future right?

It depends entirely on adoption. AMD have invested too much in GCN design to do any radical changes now, so a more accurate description is that Async Compute is the future for RTG - and RTG won't survive without it. Based on normal timelines of GPU design and production, Vega is probably a year away from launching. Honestly, its probably better that way because you don't want something that large launching right now, when only a few titles are using async compute effectively on GCN hardware. It works for the 480 because its a relatively inexpensive purchase, but even so its not enough right now to pull people away from the 1060. Until async compute is used widescale, its a marketing gimmick. I wouldn't be surprised if the 1060 vs 480 battle goes down in history as either a make or break moment for the survival of Radeon.

[GirlFromYonder]

16 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

It depends entirely on adoption. AMD have invested too much in GCN design to do any radical changes now, so a more accurate description is that Async Compute is the future for RTG - and RTG won't survive without it. Based on normal timelines of GPU design and production, Vega is probably a year away from launching. Honestly, its probably better that way because you don't want something that large launching right now, when only a few titles are using async compute effectively on GCN hardware. It works for the 480 because its a relatively inexpensive purchase, but even so its not enough right now to pull people away from the 1060. Until async compute is used widescale, its a marketing gimmick. I wouldn't be surprised if the 1060 vs 480 battle goes down in history as either a make or break moment for the survival of Radeon.

Is AMD really in that much trouble?

[GirlFromYonder]

40 minutes ago, Sintezza said:

Funny to see all those people say that the reference cooler of the RX480 is SHIT... yada yada.

Well as far as i concerned the Founders Editions coolers are just as shit.

 

As you can see trowing shit at one or the other company as fansboys allways do, doesnt make a whole lot of sense.

You should look at things objectivaly, wenn the GTX1060 gets out, we will see some compairissons on both cards.

Then we know which card is the best price to performance buy.

Till now there is totaly nothing too say about it.

 

 

Well but have u seen the quailty. Plastic and just a block of aluminum. 

[Briggsy]

1 minute ago, DeezNoNos said:

Is AMD really in that much trouble?

Not at the moment. It's just that they've locked themselves down a set path, and put all their eggs in one basket.

[GirlFromYonder]

1 minute ago, Briggsy said:

Not at the moment. It's just that they've locked themselves down a set path, and put all their eggs in one basket.

i see.

[Sintezza]

9 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

Well but have u seen the quailty. Plastic and just a block of aluminum. 

I doesnt matter if they perform just as shit.

Even if it was gold plated.

 

The shrout of aluminium vs plastic isnt going to improve cooling at all.

[App4that]

53 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

but it is the future right?

DX12 is one API, with many features. Our community is divided, it is separated by red and green because of the misconception that one is better than the other. What adds to the problem is multiple API features and builds making it easy to paint a picture that supports that idea, both ways. 

 

You ou run the settings that will get you the best performance? Right? So why would you expect a user of another card to use settings that hurt their performance? That's what biased benchmarks do though. They compare different cards without taking into consideration how each is effected by the settings used. 

 

Chill my brother. Nether company is in any danger and nether is out to get you. They'll both get away with what we allow them to get away with. Developers want to make money so will continue to make sure both companies are supported and vicariously you. I've been here since the beginning, this is a very exciting time to be a PC gamer. Enjoy it. Don't let brand loyalty have you more concerned with beating the opposing fans than enjoying the times we live in.

[Masada02]

20 hours ago, App4that said:

Hey, I chose a Hybrid over a Lightning for the same reason so I'm not judging  *IF* The rumors are true though in this case the Nitro is almost as far away from the reference 480 to be called a 490. Not even joking. I've seen reports of the Nitro 480 beating a Fury in everything and all things. The reference 480 barely beats a 970 even when Vulcan is used to give it a boost in Doom.

God I hope that's true. That would be one hell of a factory overclock.

[GirlFromYonder]

36 minutes ago, App4that said:

DX12 is one API, with many features. Our community is divided, it is separated by red and green because of the misconception that one is better than the other. What adds to the problem is multiple API features and builds making it easy to paint a picture that supports that idea, both ways. 

 

You ou run the settings that will get you the best performance? Right? So why would you expect a user of another card to use settings that hurt their performance? That's what biased benchmarks do though. They compare different cards without taking into consideration how each is effected by the settings used. 

 

Chill my brother. Nether company is in any danger and nether is out to get you. They'll both get away with what we allow them to get away with. Developers want to make money so will continue to make sure both companies are supported and vicariously you. I've been here since the beginning, this is a very exciting time to be a PC gamer. Enjoy it. Don't let brand loyalty have you more concerned with beating the opposing fans than enjoying the times we live in.

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