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Crossfire on Rx 480 14% faster then gtx 1070

DAnewguy
By DAnewguy
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2 minutes ago, DAnewguy said:

Here is a review http://www.hardwareunboxed.com

Or on YouTube "hardware unboxed" (youtuber)

So guys what do you think is the CF480  worth it? 

No

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

No

Why not??

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What happened to it de-throning the 1080?

 

2 minutes ago, DAnewguy said:

Why not??

 

A single powerful, efficient GPU is always preferable to two lower-end GPUs. CF is great until it isn't supported, then you're stuck with a single, much less powerful card.

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1 minute ago, SSL said:

What happened to it de-throning the 1080?

 

 

A single powerful, efficient GPU is always preferable to two lower-end GPUs. CF is great until it isn't supported, then you're stuck with a single, much less powerful card.

True.......

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1 minute ago, SSL said:

A single powerful, efficient GPU is always preferable to two lower-end GPUs. CF is great until it isn't supported, then you're stuck with a single, much less powerful card.

(apparently that isn't a thing anymore, got torn a new one by other forum members that "Any game that needs that horsepower supports sli/crossfire") 

Yeah i thought it was retarded as well...

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3 minutes ago, DAnewguy said:

Why not??

The 480X then maybe. As it is a dual GPU board but the gains for two are not worth it. Considering CF support and so on. 

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RX480 wasnt made to de-throne the top-end of Nvidia's GPU's. They are "king" in some other area.

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2 minutes ago, derick90 said:

(apparently that isn't a thing anymore, got torn a new one by other forum members that "Any game that needs that horsepower supports sli/crossfire") 

Yeah i thought it was retarded as well...

So do you think it's worth trying it

??

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Overhyping of the card from zealous supporters of AMD has led to a lot of disappointments and lots of promises of account suicides to be made. Wonder how many of it will be kept.

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2 minutes ago, DAnewguy said:

So do you think it's worth trying it

??

No, i still stand by a single powerful GPU, when its all said and done you could afford a 1080 when prices stabilize, or wait for AMD's "top tier" offering. 

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2 minutes ago, Dutch-stoner said:

RX480 wasnt made to de-throne the top-end of Nvidia's GPU's. They are "king" in some other area.

The RX 480 doesn't dethrone Nvidia's previous-generation mid-tier card, the GTX 970, either. It could be that the GTX 1060, Nvidia's low-end 10XX GPU, outperforms the RX 480.

 

At $200, if any actually sell for that price, the RX 480 has the best price-to-performance ratio for gaming GPUs currently released, and that's great. But it's a low-mid-end GPU, and not very future-proofed, if at all.

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Overhyping of the card from zealous supporters of AMD has led to a lot of disappointments and lots of promises of account suicides to be made. Wonder how many of it will be kept.

I'm just confused as to why they would release their bottom of the barrel card first, isn't that counter productive?

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single more powerful GPU >>>> two weaker ones

 

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3 minutes ago, DAnewguy said:

So do you think it's worth trying it

??

 

"Trying it"? Meaning what? Frankly, no. Multi GPU makes sense if you can't afford the price of a single powerful card upfront, but want to save up for more later; or if you're at the top end of single GPU performance and the only way to get more is multi-GPU. Going for CF/SLI out of the gate is silly.

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I'm just confused as to why they would release their bottom of the barrel card first, isn't that counter productive?

No. Not everyone is a super enthusiast with a lot of money to spend on a gpu. Most people are probably very happy gaming at 1080p without spending crazy amounts of cash.

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I'm just confused as to why they would release their bottom of the barrel card first, isn't that counter productive?

extremely smart marketing move.

 

95% of consumers play @1080p or less. Most GPU customers exist in the bracket that they have marketed this card to. 

 

This gets cash flow moving and allows them to reinvest in other projects for the future. 

 

It's also an area with no other competition right now. Unless you can pick up a 980 for 199.99, then this is the best value for the money. 

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No. Not everyone is a super enthusiast with a lot of money to spend on a gpu. Most people are probably very happy gaming at 1080p without spending crazy amounts of cash.

In the history of GPU launches, the order is typically "Top tier", then lesser models follow, reason being price gouging the enthusiasts/early adopters while the prior gen cards drop in price for the (as you stated) "Non super enthusiast"

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Well in EU GTX 1070 cost around 480€.

RX 480 cost 270€.

 

So 2x RX 480 would cost around 12% more.

Performance would be around 10% better in games that acctually support crossfire and scale well.

Power draw from single GTX 1070 or RX 480 crossfire is 200W difference.

More heat.

 

In benchmarks it might be better, but for acctual gaming ... probbably not the best idea.

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Well in EU GTX 1070 cost around 480€.

RX 480 cost 270€.

 

So 2x RX 480 would cost around 12% more.

Performance would be around 10% better in games that acctually support crossfire and scale well.

Power draw from single GTX 1070 or RX 480 crossfire is 200W difference.

More heat.

 

In benchmarks it might be better, but for acctual gaming ... probbably not the best idea.

Thx finally a good straight answer (almost) but thx

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extremely smart marketing move.

 

95% of consumers play @1080p or less. Most GPU customers exist in the bracket that they have marketed this card to. 

 

This gets cash flow moving and allows them to reinvest in other projects for the future. 

 

It's also an area with no other competition right now. Unless you can pick up a 980 for 199.99, then this is the best value for the money. 

Even with the 1060 around the corner? While AMD has one product out, nVidia is releasing its 3rd. one for each "tier" of spenders. 

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2 minutes ago, DAnewguy said:

Thx finally a good straight answer (almost) but thx

 

lmao? This is a fine answer, and moreover it's just repeating what everyone has already said.

 

It really seems like you just want to be told what you want to hear so you can get 480 CF and have "better than 1070" for slightly less money. At which point, do what you want.

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7 minutes ago, derick90 said:

In the history of GPU launches, the order is typically "Top tier", then lesser models follow, reason being price gouging the enthusiasts/early adopters while the prior gen cards drop in price for the (as you stated) "Non super enthusiast"

Yeah, and for a long time people thought the earth was flat. Changes happen. Maybe an attempt to grab more market share by releasing cards more people could afford was their reasoning.

If we have always done things how they were always done, doctors would still practice blood letting and not washing their hands.

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3 minutes ago, DAnewguy said:

Thx finally a good straight answer (almost) but thx

It's simple: RX 480 have better performance in SOME games.

You get 10% better performance, for 12% more price, 50% more power draw, 50% more heat and 99 more problems with corssfire.

 

Answer: No, RX 480 crossfire isn't better than GTX 1070 for gaming.

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4 minutes ago, derick90 said:

Even with the 1060 around the corner? While AMD has one product out, nVidia is releasing its 3rd. one for each "tier" of spenders. 

And typically a large company such as AMD wouldn't need to count on lower models return to reinvest in its higher quality cards unless its hemorrhaging money. 

future is not to be interpreted as product launching this year. But thanks for putting words in my mouth. 

 

everyone will rush to buy what is the best thing out for their budget and the first one to hit the market will usually have the leg up because the initial wave of buyers won't need to buy for some time. 

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