Learning how to hack?

[khothmod]

How difficult would it be? Where would one get started? I don't really have any malicious intentions, but I'd rather like to deal with the skids like PoodleCorp and Lizard Squad... They're obnoxious and do things without any real cause, unlike groups such as Anonymous. They just ruin the time of others... 

 

I have no prior experience with really anything other than very basic programming skills and how to build a PC (which probably has nothing to do with anything on this topic.)

[Nineshadow]

Don't.

Learn Computer Science (ie programming). It will be more productive and helpful.

[khothmod]

7 hours ago, Cosmopath said:

Literally the only thing that PoodleCorp, Lizard Squad and Anonymous do are DDoS attacks. They're just a bunch of kids who download LOIC and target whoever. No hacking involved in that.

 

In other words, you need to be a lot more specific.

Exactly why I called them skids. Though they did somehow manage to breach security and get into a few YouTube/Twitter accounts... Maybe brute forcing? 

 

7 hours ago, Cosmopath said:

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I'd like to know how to do the same, not so I can do it to others, but so I can get accounts back to others... Or take people down like PoodleCorp... I don't know if this is against the rules, but as I'm not meaning to do anything harmful I assume it's okay. 

 

7 hours ago, Nineshadow said:

Don't.

Learn Computer Science (ie programming). It will be more productive and helpful.

In that case, where would I start with that? How difficult is that?

 

I wanted to learn how to hack because I'm tired of people like PoodleCorp screwing with others. 

[Lucaz97]

Try hackthiswebsite.com , I started from there, you can look up tutorials and understand how things works, then I also found some online courses, I am trying some I found for almost nothing on deals...

I am doing this because I'm starting college next October and I'm going for computer science engineering, and I don't know if I wanna focus on computer security or robotics , for the second I already had experiences for the first I'm trying now and see how it goes...

[DXMember]

but that' s like illegal...

get a pen testers certificate and join white hat

[Lucaz97]

3 minutes ago, khothmod said:

In that case, where would I start with that? How difficult is that?

 

I wanted to learn how to hack because I'm tired of people like PoodleCorp screwing with others. 

Yes, Ofc white hat hacking is the way to go, you ca also make a living out of it

[manikyath]

you dont "learn to hack"

 

"hacking" is a talent, it is a talent of taking a piece of software or hardware, and make it do things not intended. the term "hacking" basicly means finding a solution to a problem that is not within current accepted norms.

 

example: i needed to charge a lithium cell but had no charger, the "accepted norm" would be to just suck it up and buy a charger, the "hack" would be doing this:

 

the way you get into (not using the word "learn" here) hacking is by just being in an area of expertise, and taking some moments of spare time here and there to experiment with things that shouldnt be experimented with.

 

you dont "learn how to find the heartbleed bug", you sit down on a quiet afternoon and send random crap to a database until suddenly it spurts out tons of data, making you go "oh, thats funny".

 

TL:DR if you want to be a "hacker" its just a matter of getting really good at the area of expertise you want to "be a hacker" in, and spend time finding quirks and funky ways to do things.

[manikyath]

3 minutes ago, Cosmopath said:

Anyways, if you're interested in going a hacking route, I would definitely recommend white-hat hacking and participating in bug bounty programs for various websites and applications. By doing so you're helping out the advancement of computer technology, and it pays well. 

well, as a functioning member of society you shouldnt be recommending anything else than white hat hacking, in the same way you shouldnt be recommending piracy.

 

if people want to go to the dark side of things it should be their own decision, and they should be quiet about it because it's NOT a good public status to say you're taking down websites because you dont agree with their views.

 

hence why "annonymous" is annonymous, and not "people with names".

[khothmod]

7 hours ago, Cosmopath said:

I know that a lot of people have been gaining access to YouTube accounts through multi-channel network backdoors. I don't know the specifics, and even if I did I'm sure the mods would not appreciate me sharing them. Not entirely sure about Twitter accounts. Brute forcing is a reasonable guess, I'd say. 

 

Anyways, if you're interested in going a hacking route, I would definitely recommend white-hat hacking and participating in bug bounty programs for various websites and applications. By doing so you're helping out the advancement of computer technology, and it pays well. 

It's a tough thing to do, especially attempting to take down other DDoSing/hacking groups. IIRC, regardless of if it's for good intent or not, it's still illegal to gain unauthorized access to someone's account. As much as hacking groups like PoodleCorp sound horrible, I'd still stay away from that boat.

I appreciate your input. In that case, do you have any idea on what I can do to get started? 

 

7 hours ago, manikyath said:

well, as a functioning member of society you shouldnt be recommending anything else than white hat hacking, in the same way you shouldnt be recommending piracy.

 

if people want to go to the dark side of things it should be their own decision, and they should be quiet about it because it's NOT a good public status to say you're taking down websites because you dont agree with their views.

 

hence why "annonymous" is annonymous, and not "people with names".

Of course. I wouldn't be giving myself away, I just need to learn how to do things. In any case, I might just stay away from it anyways and go the white hat route, or maybe just get myself into programming. 

[laminutederire]

That subject is very interesting, but brute force and ddos-ing can be facilitated by botnets, and constituting a botnet isn't thaaaaaaaat easy.

I learn a few principles of how they can use breaches to gain control of a machine.

That's an interesting domain, but that's not that easy. I have a friend who used to manage part of an ISP security, and he had a master's degree in networking.

That's how hacking knowledge can be used for good

 

[Enderman]

22 minutes ago, Cosmopath said:

Literally the only thing that PoodleCorp, Lizard Squad and Anonymous do are DDoS attacks. They're just a bunch of kids who download LOIC and target whoever. No hacking involved in that.

 

In other words, you need to be a lot more specific.

if you really think its that easy, go ahead and try it yourself

you will see that that's not how "hacking" works

 

if it was that easy the internet would be unusable from all the 12 year olds doing it

[manikyath]

7 hours ago, khothmod said:

Of course. I wouldn't be giving myself away, I just need to learn how to do things. In any case, I might just stay away from it anyways and go the white hat route, or maybe just get myself into programming. 

the thing about hacking is that it doesnt *have* to be breaching into places you shouldnt be, i actually really enjoy "hardware hacking" to turn old junk into functional pieces of equipment. the thing about staying in that field is you can tell a potential employer that you're able to, and comfortable with going outside of predefined bounds to save the company money and time in places where otherwise there'd be downtime due to hardware failure.

 

besides that, "social engineering" (a more "verbal" way of hacking) is somethingt hat's really wanted in the car salesmen field

 

7 hours ago, Cosmopath said:

Anonymous do

anonymous doesnt "do"

a person "does" while operating under the anonymous banner.

 

the thing about anonymous that a lot of people seem to miss is that by definitoon they're not an "organisation" you can "join". anonymous is a banner created by/for hackers who want to do their work without claiming fame for it. they are still regular joe from the bakery, and take no public pride in what they did.

[Nineshadow]

5 minutes ago, manikyath said:

the thing about hacking is that it doesnt *have* to be breaching into places you shouldnt be, i actually really enjoy "hardware hacking" to turn old junk into functional pieces of equipment. the thing about staying in that field is you can tell a potential employer that you're able to, and comfortable with going outside of predefined bounds to save the company money and time in places where otherwise there'd be downtime due to hardware failure.

 

besides that, "social engineering" (a more "verbal" way of hacking) is somethingt hat's really wanted in the car salesmen field

I'm proud of myself. Today I drilled a couple of holes through quite a thick piece of wood using just a screwdriver.. Sore arms is what I got for not having proper tools :_;.

[manikyath]

4 minutes ago, Nineshadow said:

I'm proud of myself. Today I drilled a couple of holes through quite a thick piece of wood using just a screwdriver.. Sore arms is what I got for not having proper tools :_;.

 

not a single tool meant for drilling was used in the process of making this button.

[GreezyJeezy]

1 hour ago, Cosmopath said:

Literally the only thing that PoodleCorp, Lizard Squad and Anonymous do are DDoS attacks. They're just a bunch of kids who download LOIC and target whoever. No hacking involved in that.

 

In other words, you need to be a lot more specific.

anon doesn't, they Ddos bad guys. they are white hat hackers, they also find and leak info on suspects and stuff 

[GreezyJeezy]

20 minutes ago, Cosmopath said:

No, they're black hat hackers regardless of the moral. DDoSing networks is black-hat even if it's for a "good cause" (in their eyes, that is). White-hat hacking is security penetration testing and bug bounty.

 

They've barely done any of that in my recent memory.

they leaked a lot of isis members, and lol ok whatever you say sir, i bet you have a PHD on this topic xDD 

[BuckGup]

I know this thread is on the edge of CoC but I would like to add the bright side of this. If you are an ethical hacker you can actually make money. You can work for companies and test their security on their website servers and so on. You can also be a bounty hunter for Google and when you find a bug or flaw they will pay you depending on the size of the problem. Most hackers don't read a book other hackers read and become good. You have to do everything on your own and take what you know and learn from that. This is why when you see the big time hackers get caught they either go to prison for 30 years or they work for the FBI and are pardoned. If you don't want to be ethical don't do it.

[GreezyJeezy]

2 minutes ago, Cosmopath said:

"Leaks" with no substantial evidence/proof? Yeah, okay, sure.

 

It's honestly not that hard to just do a Google search for the definition of white hat hacking. No need to be cocky.

no becase you saying if you ddos anyone and i mean ANYONE or group they are a black hat right at the moment and then fro forever on, but your a pro and have 30+ years in experience in this thing called "googling" and it automatically makes you right. 

 

even when you are putting it in your own words,

[GreezyJeezy]

9 minutes ago, Cosmopath said:

This is the literal definition of "white hat hacking":

 

The term "white hat" in Internet slang refers to an ethical computer hacker, or a computer security expert, who specializes in penetration testing and in other testing methodologies to ensure the security of an organization's information systems. 

 

Never implied that...

 

Also never implied that...

im pretty sure its ethical to try to ddos some terrorist. 

 

The term "white hat" in Internet slang refers to an ethical computer hacker, or a computer security expert

[WkdPaul]

5 minutes ago, Cosmopath said:

I'm done arguing with you

I would've stopped before.... and I will just leave this here, it's my favorite quote and I think it sums up what just happened, next time you'll know

 

 

[Mvard]

Honestly depends on what your end goal is... If you want to dabble with messing around networks, cracking wep keys, capturing WPA2 handshakes for passwords, etc.. you'll need a wireless card that supports packet injection and a bit of software to help you along the way (VERY ILLEGAL). If privlage escalation, back-doors, virus creation, remote access, and whatever else you would want, Kali Linux is an operating system dedicated for these sorts of things chock full of a plethora of tools and programs to make your life easier. I by NO  means condone hacking in any way shape or form, and if you do not know what you are doing, you very well may get caught and prosecuted.