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OCZ Vertex 450 128GB Solid State Drive (soon to arrive, first ssd ever bought)
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I am planing to upgrade my Motherboard to:
 
Also my upgrading my CPU to:
 
I figured that I don't care for overclocking my CPU and that I won't need a i7-4770k. I am a light gamer but I love my eye candy effects and performance when I do. Then I remember reading somewhere, that in order to have a RAM speed running at 2133 you'll need to overclock your CPU. Does this mean that getting a i7-4770 rather than a i7-4770k, would not make the most out of my ram?
 
Simply put, is the i7-4770 compatible with 2133 RAM speeds? Or do I need a i7-4770k for that?
 
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Current Rig:

AMD FX-4100
Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970
EVGA 660ti 3GB superclocked edition
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache
OCZ Vertex 450 128GB Solid State Drive (soon to arrive, first ssd ever bought)
RaidMax Hybid-series RX-530SS 530watt power supply
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133
 
I am planing to upgrade my Motherboard to:
 
Also my upgrading my CPU to:
Intel Core i7-4770 Haswell 3.4GHz
 
I figured that I don't care for overclocking my CPU and that I won't need a i7-4770k. I am a light gamer but I love my eye candy effects and performance when I do. Then I remember reading somewhere, that in order to have a RAM speed running at 2133 you'll need to overclock your CPU. Does this mean that getting a i7-4770 rather than a i7-4770k, would not make the most out of my ram?
 
Simply put, is the i7-4770 compatible with 2133 RAM speeds? Or do I need a i7-4770k for that?
 
Disclaimer: THIS IS MY FIRST EVER FORUM POST! So ya.....

 

 

First, 2133mhz RAM is useless, get a good CL9 or CL8 1600MHz and it will be as fast and lower latency. But since you already have the RAM, yes it's compatible without problems.

 

Second, get Xeon e3-1230v3 (it's exactly Haswell i7 4770 but no iGPU included, not like you would ever use it) - you're gonna save some money. The motherboard you've chosen is great as it will allow you to eventually Crossfire/SLI if you ever wanted and yes it will support the i7/Xeon e3-1230v3.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116906

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131981

 

or if you wanted you could get a cheaper motherboard that wont allow you to SLI/Crossfire but otherwise is as good since you are not overclocking anyway with Xeon e3-1230v3:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130697

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Yes it will be compatible but if you are just using it for gaming I would just get 1600MHz CL9 ram. If you are talking about putting eye candy on your windows, you wouldn't need 2133mhz ram imo.

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1866MHz ram is the perfect speed for HAswell CPUs. But for gaming, it won't matter.

 

4670K is like $100 cheaper I think? Get 16GB of RAM with that $100 at 1600MHz. Future proof for the time being with at least that.

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1866MHz ram is the perfect speed for HAswell CPUs. But for gaming, it won't matter.

 

4670K is like $100 cheaper I think? Get 16GB of RAM with that $100 at 1600MHz. Future proof for the time being with at least that.

 

But 4670k is not i7, and Xeon e3-1230v3 is essentialy i7 and they are same price. So if he wants i7, recommending i5 is silly.

So... If Jesus had the gold, would he buy himself out instead of waiting 3 days for the respawn?

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If its for gaming only. Get any set of 1600mhz dimms by whatever brand. And for christ's sake get a 4670K

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If its for gaming only. Get any set of 1600mhz dimms by whatever brand. And for christ's sake get a 4670K

 

Why not i7? it's got hyperthreading and the price is the same of 4670k and locked i7 so i dont see any reason not to get i7 if you dont want to OC.

So... If Jesus had the gold, would he buy himself out instead of waiting 3 days for the respawn?

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Why not i7? it's got hyperthreading and the price is the same of 4670k and locked i7 so i dont see any reason not to get i7 if you dont want to OC.

 

Building a pc is not about "what someone wants". Its about getting the best bang for the buck. Recommending a Xeon, Really? Mobo's to fit a Xeon are really expensive. He is only gonna game. He needs a good consumer grade cpu. I'm going with a 4770k in my build and I have an Ares II.

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But 4670k is not i7, and Xeon e3-1230v3 is essentialy i7 and they are same price. So if he wants i7, recommending i5 is silly.

Having an i7 for gaming only is just loltastic.

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Why not i7? it's got hyperthreading and the price is the same of 4670k and locked i7 so i dont see any reason not to get i7 if you dont want to OC.

Because you're paying $100 for hyperthreading essentially.

 

Games don't use hyperthreading.

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Having an i7 for gaming only is just loltastic.

I got my i7 for gaming only :D

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Because you're paying $100 for hyperthreading essentially.

 

Games don't use hyperthreading.

 

Yes they do use hyperthreading if they support all threads your CPU can handle. look at i3 vs pentium.

So... If Jesus had the gold, would he buy himself out instead of waiting 3 days for the respawn?

CPU: Phenom II x6 1045t ][ GPU: GeForce 9600GT 512mb DDR3 ][ Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P ][ RAM: 2x4GB Kingston 1333MHz CL9 DDR3 ][ HDD: Western Digital Green 2TB ][ PSU: Chieftec 500AB A ][ Case: No-name without airflow or dust filters Budget saved for an upgrade so far: 2400PLN (600€) - Initial 2800PLN (700€) - Upgraded already: CPU

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Building a pc is not about "what someone wants". Its about getting the best bang for the buck. Recommending a Xeon, Really? Mobo's to fit a Xeon are really expensive. He is only gonna game. He needs a good consumer grade cpu. I'm going with a 4770k in my build and I have an Ares II.

 

What did you smoke? Xeon e3-1230v3 is an i7 without iGPU, go read something about Xeons before you start talking idiotic things about Xeons being meant for workstations... that crap is so false.

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/58498-intel-xeon-e3-1230v2-any-good/

So... If Jesus had the gold, would he buy himself out instead of waiting 3 days for the respawn?

CPU: Phenom II x6 1045t ][ GPU: GeForce 9600GT 512mb DDR3 ][ Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P ][ RAM: 2x4GB Kingston 1333MHz CL9 DDR3 ][ HDD: Western Digital Green 2TB ][ PSU: Chieftec 500AB A ][ Case: No-name without airflow or dust filters Budget saved for an upgrade so far: 2400PLN (600€) - Initial 2800PLN (700€) - Upgraded already: CPU

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Yes they do use hyperthreading if they support all threads your CPU can handle. look at i3 vs pentium.

You're talking about a dual core being seen as four cores.

 

It does not matter for i7 cores. 3570K will perform the same as 3770K. 4670K will perform the same as a 4770K in games.

 

This has been stated numerous times around the internet.

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Well its gonna perform really good, but you don't need it.

I know, I just don't like number 5 in i series and besides, games ain't using more than 4 threads YET, but maybe in the near future they will... So, it's always better to pick up i7 than i5

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You're talking about a dual core being seen as four cores.

 

It does not matter for i7 cores. 3570K will perform the same as 3770K. 4670K will perform the same as a 4770K in games.

 

This has been stated numerous times around the internet.

 

Aha yea it was stated numerous times because there are no games that use more than 4 threads... yet... except... you are looking into FX threads and all the amd blind fanboys say their quad modules FX 83xx will destroy i5 because games start to use 4 FPUs and 8 ALUs so essentially more than 4 threads... so decide yourself guys. Deal or no deal? And yes i3 wins with pentium because it has hyperthreading in some games like Crysis 3:

 

http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/radek/2013/pentiumhsw/wykresy/def_n/crysis3_jungle_r.png

 

http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/radek/2013/pentiumhsw/wykresy/def_n/crysis3_jungle_gf.png

So... If Jesus had the gold, would he buy himself out instead of waiting 3 days for the respawn?

CPU: Phenom II x6 1045t ][ GPU: GeForce 9600GT 512mb DDR3 ][ Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P ][ RAM: 2x4GB Kingston 1333MHz CL9 DDR3 ][ HDD: Western Digital Green 2TB ][ PSU: Chieftec 500AB A ][ Case: No-name without airflow or dust filters Budget saved for an upgrade so far: 2400PLN (600€) - Initial 2800PLN (700€) - Upgraded already: CPU

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Why are you even bringing up i3s and Pentium? We're not talking about them. We're talking about i5-4670K and the i7-4770K. There is no difference in performance for these two

 

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@Dravic I have 8 Dell racks running in my garage and i'm 16. I know something about Xeons.

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What did you smoke? Xeon e3-1230v3 is an i7 without iGPU, go read something about Xeons before you start talking idiotic things about Xeons being meant for workstations... that crap is so false.

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/58498-intel-xeon-e3-1230v2-any-good/

This is the same thing as GTX vs Quadro Gpu's. Yes they are the same chips, they are optimized for other things. Xeon's are not optimized for gaming, the mobo's are darn expensive. And damn I would trust someone that's running a gt9600 these days. Now let that guy get a 4670k, he will be ever happy. 

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This is the same thing as GTX vs Quadro Gpu's. Yes they are the same chips, they are optimized for other things. Xeon's are not optimized for gaming, the mobo's are darn expensive. And damn I would trust someone that's running a gt9600 these days. Now let that guy get a 4670k, he will be ever happy. 

 

i7 is not optimized for gaming, and xeon is not optimized for gaming, i5 is not optimized for gaming. They all share the same architecture except i7 and xeon e3-1230v3 have additional cache and hyperthreading (the same feature set). And all of those CPUs are intel's x86. Games use x86 instruction set. So how do you say it's not optimized for gaming? did you even READ the thread i linked?

 

You are wrong, Xeons are i7 and you can use them for the same stuff.

So... If Jesus had the gold, would he buy himself out instead of waiting 3 days for the respawn?

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You are wrong, Xeons are i7 and you can use them for the same stuff.

If Xeons are i7s then why are the separate?

 

Why don't we just sell i7s for servers?

 

Your logic is flawed and you're wrong.

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