Dravic

I can't resist; enjoy: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8i1Ddj1Sw8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DY8i1Ddj1Sw8

Irrelevant, afaik you need to put the cpu inside a Q-series mobo to even get to use virtualisation features with intel CPUs.

Finally somebody who noticed this as well. Every thread - wait for rebadge...

Irrelevant. The ECC memory support also is irrelevant if you put the Xeon in lga 1150 socket motherboard with a 'regular' chipset like b85, h87 or z87 since they support normal DDR3.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/75036,75052,75047 http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Chip-Processor-3-1-BX80646E31220V3/dp/B00D697OEW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380661153&sr=8-1&keywords=e3-1220v3 http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4430-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00CO8T9VC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380661176&sr=8-1&keywords=i5-4430 http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4670-Quad-Core-Processor-BX80646I54670/dp/B00CO8TBR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380661553&sr=8-1&keywords=i5-4670 Xeon e3-1220v3 (i5-like) doesn't look as amazing of a bargain as 1230v3 (i7) but it has 2mb more l3 cache which does positively influence the performance (albeit really small), it DOES have similiar clocks when compared to other i5s and it has all the goodies that all higher-end i5 and all i7 Haswell have: Intel TSX-NI which for example i5-4430 doesn't have.

Mantle is supported on GCN so all 7970, 7950, 7870xt etc. will be supported as well as the new cards and rebadges. But i'll quote myself here:

it is, but the prices from databases are recommended, not real-world. check newegg and other stores, it's around 250$ or in other words 10-20$ more than 4670k.

The thoughts are as follow: If you were to buy i7: a) Want to overclock - 4770k B) Don't want to overclock - Xeon E3-1230v3 c) Want the iGPU of 4770 but don't want to overclock - you are doing it wrong, you should get a dedicated GPU If you were to buy i5: a) Want to overclock - 4670k B) Don't want to overclock but have enough money (around 250$) - better get non-OC i7 Xeon E3-1230v3 c) Don't want to overclock - i5-4430, i5-4440, i5-4570 or i5-4670 whichever is inside your budget

Oh right, what do you mean by IPC here? If you mean instructions per cycle then you are terribly wrong, the only thing they can alter on a chip that already is made is the memory and core clocks. What "more" is to them than older GPUs? What? TrueAudio is only on the new GPUs i.e. 260x, 290x [and 290, as well]. What else could they possibly add to the rebadged chips?

That's probably the reason why they released FX-9590 4,7GHz for nearly 1000$, hehe

If you don't like it then go and hire yourself at AMD HQs so you can help them improve their product lines. I have no problems with AMD GPUs, and I always thought by the nature of free commenting it's not important whether the comment is negative or positive as long as it's relevant to the thread and I think saying that the older GPUs seem to have better value right now than new rebadges is completely relevant. Agree/disagree?

RAM speed is irrelevant as long as you are not out of VRAM with the GPU and there's enough RAM to mirror the vRAM. You are completely fine.

Blind fanboyism of what? old Radeons? Oh please now. I don't say anything good about AMD products? what? I like their GPUs, what's the problem with that? Me making comments that a series of rebadges is not worth waiting for is bashing AMD in your eyes?

Any problems with me saying there's no reason to wait for new GPUs from AMD unless somebody wants to buy the factual NEW GPUs (260x, 290 and 290x) because rebadges are not worth waiting for in my honest opinion?

You wasted money on the laptop but it's probably a bit better than a console or at least equal (im talking about GPU since CPU is superior on your laptop). But why you wasted money: you could buy a lot faster PC for the same money.