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GTX 980ti > GTX 1070

14 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

seriously? for the Titan right? not the 1080ti?!

Titan i have no problem...it's an enthusiast grade product meant for die hard fanboys...they can ask 5000$ for it i do not care at all...but the 1080ti if it's more than 799$USD it stays on the shelf as far as i'm concerned.

Oh sorry I mean the Titan. The Titan looks good though with HBM2.0. Well at that price I think I will wait for Volta for better yields

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2 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Well...at least on early drivers :P nvidia will make sure the 1070 outperform the 980ti in the months to come i'm sure!

Yes sir, that appears to be an isolated test and the 1070 hasn't quite had optimal drivers so it's not being fully utilized but a couple weeks into June and the 1070 will have optimal drivers 

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1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

See here's the thing. My father worked in the early days of Cray making the Cray 1 and many other marvelous machines. The GPU went from 28nm to 16nm which is a pretty big jump. From this we should see increased clock speeds which we did so it is following the trend so far. I am by no means capable to explain this well enough so sorry but you should really talk to a professor or a computer engineer on this but jumping from 28nm to 16nm should have yielded much higher results. Now the performance we are seeing is the jump but it is not nearly what it could be. Probably due to Nvidia hyping it up and wanting to sell if before AMD. The next generation we will see much better performance still at 16nm though and so on. You might think this is typical which for a GPU company aimed at gamers it makes sense. But in the old days (sound like an old man) when there was a shrink it was refined and tested true and yielded much higher results quicker. 

Agree with you. Nowadays tech companies want to play the "who can squeeze less performance between each generation" game. More generation means more profit.

1st gen ipad did not even have a camera on it. 2nd gen :"YAY WE"VE GOT A NEW CAMERA ON IT!"

Look at intel, just because of AMD's cpu sucks these few years, intel is pretty much sitting their asses, showering themselves with money.

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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4 hours ago, Hunched said:

You're still missing the point of my post as to why the 1070 isn't as impressive as the 970 was at launch.

The 970 was closer to the 980 in performance than the 1070 is to the 1080.

Both the 970 and 1070 are cut down from their bigger brothers, 980 and 1080.

They cut down the 1070 from the 1080 MORE than they cut down the 970 from the 980.

The 1070 does not gain as much from overclocking as the 970 does either as reviews are showing.

 

Yes, the 1070 performs a lot better than the 970. Nobody is arguing that, that isn't even what is being discussed.

We are discussing relations of the x70 to x80 and generation performance leaps.

 

 

While I do agree that the gap between 970 and 980 is alot closer compare to 1070 vs 1080, the 980 itself is a really weird product even at launch. Remember the video Linus/Luke do back at that custom PC making event sponsor by Nvidia? Back then I remember Linus said he have a talk with a Nvidia's employee about the performance of those 2 and it end up with Linus concluded that 970 is a much better product compare to the 980 due to it lower cost but not that lower performance. The gap between 1070 and 1080 is actually closer to the 770 vs 780 because of that. I still think 980 is a product no one should ever buy just because it gain too little for that price gap compare to a 970, and just around 100$ more you can get a 980Ti already.

 

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2 minutes ago, Megazero said:

While I do agree that the gap between 970 and 980 is alot closer compare to 1070 vs 1080, the 980 itself is a really weird product even at launch. Remember the video Linus/Luke do back at that custom PC making event sponsor by Nvidia? Back then I remember Linus said he have a talk with a Nvidia's employee about the performance of those 2 and it end up with Linus concluded that 970 is a much better product compare to the 980 due to it lower cost but not that lower performance. The gap between 1070 and 1080 is actually closer to the 770 vs 780 because of that. I still think 980 is a product no one should ever buy just because it gain too little for that price gap compare to a 970, and just around 100$ more you can get a 980Ti already.

 

Yeah

I suppose that's kinda true as well, the 980 wasn't great value.

I don't know man.

 

I just wish the 1070 was a bit better than it is.

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1 minute ago, Hunched said:

Yeah

I suppose that's kinda true as well, the 980 wasn't great value.

I don't know man.

 

I just wish the 1070 was a bit better than it is.

We all do :P especially when I'm eyeballing a 1070 right now. I do hope that with an after market cooler it could OC even better than right now 

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As a person who already owns a 980ti I am going to wait for the 1080ti before I do anymore purchasing

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