Intel Pentium G3258 Rant!

[DisconnectedYT]

Now you may think that im going to be talking about how bad the Pentium G3258 is... BUT FUCK U UR WRONG. So i have had this Potatoe for about a year now and i have overclocked it all the way up to 5Ghz. So most people will say How did u get it that high or IT STILL SUCKS. How i got it there, I use a CoolerMaster Nepton 240M which cools it to 75 Degrees Celsius @100% load and its running at 1.4V (a little higher then i would like. And with that overclock while playing Planetside 2 i was using 70% CPU and on ARMA 3 i was using 95% CPU.  (also i just wanted to say that im either getting a i5 4570K or an i5 4690k cause it dose bottleneck at times)!

[aisle9]

4 minutes ago, FrozenSpark said:

Now you may think that im going to be talking about how bad the Pentium G3258 is... BUT FUCK U UR WRONG. So i have had this Potatoe for about a year now and i have overclocked it all the way up to 5Ghz. So most people will say How did u get it that high or IT STILL SUCKS. How i got it there, I use a CoolerMaster Nepton 240M which cools it to 75 Degrees Celsius @100% load and its running at 1.4V (a little higher then i would like. And with that overclock while playing Planetside 2 i was using 70% CPU and on ARMA 3 i was using 95% CPU.  (also i just wanted to say that im either getting a i5 4570K or an i5 4690k cause it dose bottleneck at times)!

Pics or it didn't happen.

[suchamoneypit]

what are you on about?

 

nice temps and OC (I've wanted to get one just to OC it, but I would have no use for it afterwards and dont want to buy a mobo,RAM,PSU). but Im confused at the point of the post. And 95% usage on Arma 3 is bad, and exactly why people would say its bad.

[durpflip]

4 minutes ago, FrozenSpark said:

Now you may think that im going to be talking about how bad the Pentium G3258 is... BUT FUCK U UR WRONG. So i have had this Potatoe for about a year now and i have overclocked it all the way up to 5Ghz. So most people will say How did u get it that high or IT STILL SUCKS. How i got it there, I use a CoolerMaster Nepton 240M which cools it to 75 Degrees Celsius @100% load and its running at 1.4V (a little higher then i would like. And with that overclock while playing Planetside 2 i was using 70% CPU and on ARMA 3 i was using 95% CPU.  (also i just wanted to say that im either getting a i5 4570K or an i5 4690k cause it dose bottleneck at times)!

that's because the pentium is a dual core CPU with no hyperthreading or turbo boost. when people recommend it,they recommend it strictly for gaming.

[themctipers]

1 minute ago, FrozenSpark said:

Now you may think that im going to be talking about how bad the Pentium G3258 is... BUT FUCK U UR WRONG. So i have had this Potatoe for about a year now and i have overclocked it all the way up to 5Ghz. So most people will say How did u get it that high or IT STILL SUCKS. How i got it there, I use a CoolerMaster Nepton 240M which cools it to 75 Degrees Celsius @100% load and its running at 1.4V (a little higher then i would like. And with that overclock while playing Planetside 2 i was using 70% CPU and on ARMA 3 i was using 95% CPU.  (also i just wanted to say that im either getting a i5 4570K or an i5 4690k cause it dose bottleneck at times)!

Ill rephrase that and add onto it for you as I can barley understand it.

 

*Now you may think that I will be talking about how terrible the G3258 is but you're wrong. I have this CPU for about a year now, and I have overclocked it to 5Ghz using a CoolerMaster Nepton 240M which cools it to 75c at 1.4v (which is a bad voltage). With that overclock while playing Planetside 2, I use 70% CPU and on ARMA 3 I use 95% CPU!

 

Also I am getting either an i5 4570k  or an i5 4690k

 

 Please explain to me why do you even have a G3258 paired with a 970, and then wanting to get a 1070 and a last gen i5? 

I said earlier that you could get cannonlake, the next generation of Intel CPUs and forget the 1070 because the 970 still kicks ass. 

Secondly, CPU usage doesn't mean jack shit. Lets say I have an pentium 4 and on Minecraft it uses 2% cpu usage just like you did, but it gets 0 fps as it crashes. What use is for that? Please provide FPS and graphic settings?
Also why did you need to post this? 

[DisconnectedYT]

Ok i wanted to make this post because on another post where i was asking for help people spammed me with INTEL PENTIUM = POTATOE

Secondly for the price Its amazing but overall its really only made to get the job done and not give you 100FPS.  Also im not made of money so i can afford to get a skylake, new ram and a new mobo  im only 13 and have like $1

[Nena Trinity]

1. Optimize settings in both those games and you will get good FPS! ^.^

2. If its still bad re-install Windows?

 

Edit:

*Planetside 2: disable ALL SHADOWS!

*DayZ: set all to lowest except the 4th there you can max EVERYTHING

 

[Apache Protocol]

1 hour ago, FrozenSpark said:

Ok i wanted to make this post because on another post where i was asking for help people spammed me with INTEL PENTIUM = POTATOE

Secondly for the price Its amazing but overall its really only made to get the job done and not give you 100FPS.  Also im not made of money so i can afford to get a skylake, new ram and a new mobo  im only 13 and have like $1

Yeah cool your horses just don't try to play Triple A Titles on Max Setting.

 

"Having a 1.4V on your G3258 is not that Risky you have a Proper Cooler to support it" and if you spend a $165 G3258 + AIO like here "http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3TjJTW" i am no genius but why not purchase a Lower end Intel Core i5-4460 and use Stock cooler and call it a Day "http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dxyx23" Unless you really got a wicked deal on that G3258 and AIO.

 

 

[ch0g0nda]

That's rad. I want a G3258 to pump a lot of voltage into and see what's what.

[incarnate]

3 hours ago, durpflip said:

that's because the pentium is a dual core CPU with no hyperthreading or turbo boost. when people recommend it,they recommend it strictly for gaming.

People recommend the Athlon x4 over the Pentium for gaming. I haven't seen many ppl recommend a Pentium over the Athlon for gaming. Even less so recently. Like you said, it is a dual core, the days of fast dual core gaming are long dead.

[Prysin]

shit product is shit, regardless of how many MHz it runs at.

Get over it and get a real CPU

 

Also, try run The Witcher 3, GTA V, Battlefield 4 Online Multiplayer, Fallout 4, Rise of the Tomb Raider, The Division or well any other demanding game. Then you can tell me how your 5GHz potatoe runs a game.

[Nacho Marco Segui]

Have fun in games like Fallout 4, the stuttering is unbearable. And some games don't even run on dual cores, you need to patch the game.

[minibois]

>using Arma 3 as a credible CPU benchmark

you lost me there.

 

try running any game that does not like dual cores (like Far Cry 4, Battlefield 4 and many more) and you will see dual cores are not for this time anymore.

and don't come at me with "well I don't play those games!", because that is not relevant since apparently you are convinced that CPU is good for anything gaming. Judging by the "BUT FUCK U UR WRONG" statement.

[Megahurt]

Some games don't run well on 2 threads which leads to stutter, no matter how high you OC it. For example, an athlon X4 will get lower average fps than the G3258, but wont have those stutters, and therefore will give you a better overall experience. An i3 doesn't have this problem, even if it has lower overall performance than an OC G3258, so it's the number of threads, not the number of cores that's an issue.

[Herman Mcpootis]

9 hours ago, DisconnectedYT said:

Ok i wanted to make this post because on another post where i was asking for help people spammed me with INTEL PENTIUM = POTATOE

Secondly for the price Its amazing but overall its really only made to get the job done and not give you 100FPS.  Also im not made of money so i can afford to get a skylake, new ram and a new mobo  im only 13 and have like $1

and you have a AIO 240mm liquid cooler and g3258? that would add up to almost the cost of an i5 4460, or at least an i3 4160 with change, both of which would be much better choices. so why the hell would you get a pentium and liquid cooler instead of the i3/i5?

[NumLock21]

G2358=yam

 

[MageTank]

I've owned both a G3258 at 4.5ghz and a G4400 at 4.8ghz (both on stock cooler, lack of AVX means you don't really NEED a better cooler anyways) and neither were that great for modern AAA titles. Even newer MMO's would cause stuttering if i even tried to listen to music in the background while playing. It's time we stop calling these pentiums "gaming CPU's". They are not marketed as such by Intel, nor were they intended for this use. The fact that they can play older titles fine, is great for people on super strict budgets, but they are by no means built for gamers. 

 

If you only play lighter MMO's and MOBA's, sure, a G3258 might suffice as long as you don't multi task that much, but for the cash you invested in your pentium + cooling solution, you could have gotten an i3 or i5 which would have been much better for gaming in the long run.

[SteveGrabowski0]

11 hours ago, DisconnectedYT said:

Now you may think that im going to be talking about how bad the Pentium G3258 is... BUT FUCK U UR WRONG. So i have had this Potatoe for about a year now and i have overclocked it all the way up to 5Ghz. So most people will say How did u get it that high or IT STILL SUCKS. How i got it there, I use a CoolerMaster Nepton 240M which cools it to 75 Degrees Celsius @100% load and its running at 1.4V (a little higher then i would like. And with that overclock while playing Planetside 2 i was using 70% CPU and on ARMA 3 i was using 95% CPU.  (also i just wanted to say that im either getting a i5 4570K or an i5 4690k cause it dose bottleneck at times)!

Don't get the 4670k, the 4690k is supposed to be a much more consistent overclocker.

[durpflip]

On 5/9/2016 at 8:27 PM, DisconnectedYT said:

Ok i wanted to make this post because on another post where i was asking for help people spammed me with INTEL PENTIUM = POTATOE

Secondly for the price Its amazing but overall its really only made to get the job done and not give you 100FPS.  Also im not made of money so i can afford to get a skylake, new ram and a new mobo  im only 13 and have like $1

if it's such a burden for you to buy a gaming-grade intel chip,just get an AMD octocore and stop whining about your poor decisions

if anything an AMDFX 8-core CPU won't top a core i5 but it's still miles ahead of pentiums.

[Apache Protocol]

On 5/9/2016 at 5:51 PM, Prysin said:

shit product is shit, regardless of how many MHz it runs at.

Get over it and get a real CPU

 

Also, try run The Witcher 3, GTA V, Battlefield 4 Online Multiplayer, Fallout 4, Rise of the Tomb Raider, The Division or well any other demanding game. Then you can tell me how your 5GHz potatoe runs a game.

How about Running CS:GO & Dota 2 Reborn on a G3258 & i5-4460? Goodluck what is the point of having a Good CPU if Game get So much Screen Tearing that sometimes you get annoyed.

 

and this is why people keep telling other people if your going to purchase G3258 you will be Limited in games your being played. and how could other people afford so many games, even i purchase my CS:GO a Bundle pack that cost $2 each key as you can imagine this was the last Steam sale and a few buddy of mine join buying then. And when i purchase Battlefield 4 i bough it for $8 as you can see some people don't even have cash to purchase GTA V and Other games like Fallout 4.

 

Stop pointing nonsense if you can even argue what will other people do with a i7-4790k + gtx 980 ti and he will only play CS:GO? 300 FPS Awesome = Move your mouse 5-20 screen tearing.

 

getting annoyed with game shutter?

 

i much prefer to have a G3258+GTX950+144hz/g-sync ready than a i7-4790k+gtx980ti+60hz monitor.

 

 

[durpflip]

6 minutes ago, apacheprotocol said:

How about Running CS:GO & Dota 2 Reborn on a G3258 & i5-4460? Goodluck what is the point of having a Good CPU if Game get So much Screen Tearing that sometimes you get annoyed.

 

and this is why people keep telling other people if your going to purchase G3258 you will be Limited in games your being played. and how could other people afford so many games, even i purchase my CS:GO a Bundle pack that cost $2 each key as you can imagine this was the last Steam sale and a few buddy of mine join buying then. And when i purchase Battlefield 4 i bough it for $8 as you can see some people don't even have cash to purchase GTA V and Other games like Fallout 4.

 

Stop pointing nonsense if you can even argue what will other people do with a i7-4790k + gtx 980 ti and he will only play CS:GO? 300 FPS Awesome = Move your mouse 5-20 screen tearing.

 

getting annoyed with game shutter?

 

i much prefer to have a G3258+GTX950+144hz/g-sync ready than a i7-4790k+gtx980ti+60hz monitor.

 

 

let's be fair ;

CS was trash ever since CS:S

[Apache Protocol]

1 hour ago, durpflip said:

let's be fair ;

CS was trash ever since CS:S

The Division 1st month game already Trash? So many bugs and exploit. Were are we going here? Pointing that some games are shitty? 

[MageTank]

7 hours ago, apacheprotocol said:

How about Running CS:GO & Dota 2 Reborn on a G3258 & i5-4460? Goodluck what is the point of having a Good CPU if Game get So much Screen Tearing that sometimes you get annoyed.

 

and this is why people keep telling other people if your going to purchase G3258 you will be Limited in games your being played. and how could other people afford so many games, even i purchase my CS:GO a Bundle pack that cost $2 each key as you can imagine this was the last Steam sale and a few buddy of mine join buying then. And when i purchase Battlefield 4 i bough it for $8 as you can see some people don't even have cash to purchase GTA V and Other games like Fallout 4.

 

Stop pointing nonsense if you can even argue what will other people do with a i7-4790k + gtx 980 ti and he will only play CS:GO? 300 FPS Awesome = Move your mouse 5-20 screen tearing.

 

getting annoyed with game shutter?

 

i much prefer to have a G3258+GTX950+144hz/g-sync ready than a i7-4790k+gtx980ti+60hz monitor.

 

 

I don't exactly understand the last part of your post. Why exactly would someone investing in a budget CPU + GPU, go all out on a 144hz G-Sync monitor (the cheapest of which currently costs $350, more than the GPU + CPU combined) but a person that spends $350 on a CPU and $550-$700 on a GPU settle with a standard 60hz monitor? You can get 1440p 120hz Samsung PLS panels for $175-$225 these days. 

 

I understand your point regarding the choice of CPU depending entirely on the games one chooses to play. Nobody will argue against that either. If you are going to play MMO's, MOBA's, or less stressful games like CS:GO, then a pentium will suffice. However, just because a CPU can play games, it does not make it a "gaming CPU". Just like me being able to boot games with an iGPU, does not make it a gaming grade graphics solution.

 

That is the point most people are trying to make regarding pentiums, and dual cores in general. 

[Apache Protocol]

3 hours ago, MageTank said:

I don't exactly understand the last part of your post. Why exactly would someone investing in a budget CPU + GPU, go all out on a 144hz G-Sync monitor (the cheapest of which currently costs $350, more than the GPU + CPU combined) but a person that spends $350 on a CPU and $550-$700 on a GPU settle with a standard 60hz monitor? You can get 1440p 120hz Samsung PLS panels for $175-$225 these days. 

 

I understand your point regarding the choice of CPU depending entirely on the games one chooses to play. Nobody will argue against that either. If you are going to play MMO's, MOBA's, or less stressful games like CS:GO, then a pentium will suffice. However, just because a CPU can play games, it does not make it a "gaming CPU". Just like me being able to boot games with an iGPU, does not make it a gaming grade graphics solution.

 

That is the point most people are trying to make regarding pentiums, and dual cores in general. 

the mere point is to play games (and if some people here cant understand the some people only do play competitive games) they keep recommending stuff like i7-xxxx and 970~980ti and keeps forgetting that some people still dont have splurge money to spend around.

 

my point was if a person ask for a computer that he will be specifically playing CS:GO? why would people push that person to invest in a i7-xxxx and not just a better Monitor?

 

my point was lets say for example you only plan forever in your life to play CS:GO? i mean go competitive what will be better for you? a Budget Build that can run the game on a 150 fps avg on a 1080p gsync ready monitor or spending so much money on a High end Build and having a Basic Monitor just to play?

 

lets say you build a budget gaming system with peripherals a budget of $800?

Monitor,Keyboard,Mouse,PC,ETC.

[MageTank]

9 hours ago, apacheprotocol said:

the mere point is to play games (and if some people here cant understand the some people only do play competitive games) they keep recommending stuff like i7-xxxx and 970~980ti and keeps forgetting that some people still dont have splurge money to spend around.

 

my point was if a person ask for a computer that he will be specifically playing CS:GO? why would people push that person to invest in a i7-xxxx and not just a better Monitor?

 

my point was lets say for example you only plan forever in your life to play CS:GO? i mean go competitive what will be better for you? a Budget Build that can run the game on a 150 fps avg on a 1080p gsync ready monitor or spending so much money on a High end Build and having a Basic Monitor just to play?

 

lets say you build a budget gaming system with peripherals a budget of $800?

Monitor,Keyboard,Mouse,PC,ETC.

$800 for a budget PC that has a G Sync monitor and a mechanical keyboard is a little impossible to stretch. As i said before, cheapest G Sync monitor is $380 as of writing this message. Cheapest cherry red keyboard is $75, with the logitech G303 priced at $45. That's $500 just in peripherals, leaving $300 left to get the cpu, board, ram, gpu, psu, case, and storage. 

 

I don't know where you see people recommending i7's for a person that strictly plays CS:GO, as I do not see it at all. If anything, the recommendation would be i5's at most, and even then, that is stretching it. Most people tend to recommend i3's or 860k's around here, as people are starting to understand the limitations of dual cores for future games. Sure, someone might only play CS:GO at the moment, but their plans may change in the future. Best to spend the extra $50 on an i3 (or the exact same amount on an 860k) and end up with a stronger CPU in the long run. 

 

I do understand your point, and I do agree with you. It's all about picking the right tools for the job. An i7 for ANY type of gaming is already overkill. i5's can game just fine, and the $100-$130 difference between i5's and i7's is not worth the extra 10% difference in minimum framerates in games that can use the additional threads. 30% more money for 10% more FPS at best, not exactly the best performance:dollar if you ask me. The same comparison can be made with i3's and i5's, if you are focusing on specific games. 

 

For CS:GO, a Skylake i3 with a cheap ASRock Z170 board will allow you to overclock that i3 to to 4.5ghz on stock cooler with ease, resulting in great FPS and the ability to play games that normally run sluggish on dual cores, for $60 more on average. You could go with the G3258, overclock it to 4.5ghz as well, and save the $60, but again, you will be limited to strictly older/less stressful titles.