Who is to blame for V.R SICKNESS/DIZZY, AMD+nVidia? VIVE/OCULAS? API? USB?

[El Diablo]

Whats the main cause of this? loads of people say its latency yea..

 

but wheres the main latency from?

 

i kind of think its due to the USB connections so basicaly the whole chipset ,not all of it but parts of it including the pci express lanes and how the cpu has to deal with ishh maby

 

some people may say nVidia due to them having a disadvantage from the api point

nVidia claims its the audio....

 

but what do YOUUU think

 

yes you

mhm you

 

*points at you*

 

no not the guy behind you

[thekeemo]

The human brain

[Enderman]

the main cause is the fact that you live in 2016 and not 2133

so until the technology improves you are stuck with this

[Unhelpful]

Because the technology currently sucks...

[Donut417]

4 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

Whats the main cause of this? loads of people say its latency yea..

 

but wheres the main latency from?

 

i kind of think its due to the USB connections so basicaly the whole chipset ,not all of it but parts of it including the pci express lanes and how the cpu has to deal with ishh maby

 

some people may say nVidia due to them having a disadvantage from the api point

nVidia claims its the audio....

 

but what do YOUUU think

 

yes you

mhm you

 

*points at you*

 

no not the guy behind you

Because this aint the Ghost in the Shell universe where stuff is beamed directly in to your cyberized brain. 

[El Diablo]

1 minute ago, JoeyDM said:

Because the technology currently sucks...

But what technology sucks?

 

what part needs the improvement?

 

we all feel immersed in a game, shit most the time when im watching tv, im there,, im zoned in,, i notice nothing around me

 

i dont feel sick

 

even watching low frame rate films,,,

 

so that rules out the need of high refresh rates

 

or am i wrong?

[Unhelpful]

2 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

 

The display, the horse power, the controls, the sensors, the games themselves. All of it need improvement to have it actually become a mainstream gaming experience.

[Donut417]

3 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

But what technology sucks?

 

what part needs the improvement?

 

we all feel immersed in a game, shit most the time when im watching tv, im there,, im zoned in,, i notice nothing around me

 

i dont feel sick

 

even watching low frame rate films,,,

 

so that rules out the need of high refresh rates

 

or am i wrong?

VR is still new. I mean yeah they have attempted it in the past, but this is the first time it actually works. We have the hardware, but other components need time to catch up as well as the software devs. They will need to discover the best way for us to control our VR environment. Truthfully Id be waiting for 3 or 4th gen VR headsets before I take the plunge. Because by the time they come out, most of the issues will probably have been worked out. 

[don_svetlio]

GDDR5 latency

[Scruffy90]

Latency and framerate mostly. It's the same reason people felt uneasy watching 3D

 

[El Diablo]

9 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

VR is still new. I mean yeah they have attempted it in the past, but this is the first time it actually works. We have the hardware, but other components need time to catch up as well as the software devs. They will need to discover the best way for us to control our VR environment. Truthfully Id be waiting for 3 or 4th gen VR headsets before I take the plunge. Because by the time they come out, most of the issues will probably have been worked out. 

but what components...

[El Diablo]

9 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

GDDR5 latency

noway

[don_svetlio]

Just now, El Diablo said:

noway

Yes. Hence why Fury series are the optimal solution at the moment

[pagani123]

It is first generation of actual consumer grade vr they still have not worked the kinks out yet. Nothing is ever perfect especially in a first gen product

[El Diablo]

7 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Yes. Hence why Fury series are the optimal solution at the moment

nah man 

 

fiji's hbm performance is over exaggerated

 

i done benchmarks on it and posted them somewhere on the forums

 

so u think gddr5 is too slow,,but usb latency is fine?

[El Diablo]

5 minutes ago, Maybach123 said:

It is first generation of actual consumer grade vr they still have not worked the kinks out yet. Nothing is ever perfect especially in a first gen product

i know

 

we all know

 

what im getting at

 

is what is the kink for v.r sickness?

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, El Diablo said:

nah man 

 

fiji's hbm performance is over exaggerated

 

i done benchmarks on it and posted them somewhere on the forums

 

so u think gddr5 is too slow,,but usb latency is fine?

Erm, the bandwidth is massive compared to GDDR5 - the latency is also substantially lower (thanks to Liquid VR + HBM). It also uses DP, not USB

[El Diablo]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Erm, the bandwidth is massive compared to GDDR5 - the latency is also substantially lower (thanks to Liquid VR + HBM). It also uses DP, not USB

check my fiji xt hbm bandwidth benchmarks

 

its not 512GB/S

 

it was allot less

 

and im sure the rift uses like 20 usb connections

Edited May 9, 2016 by El Diablo
added crap

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, El Diablo said:

check my fiji xt hbm bandwidth benchmarks

 

its not 512GB/S

 

it was allot less

Erm, so I am supposed to believe you rather than the dozens of professional reviewers? Yeah, No.

[El Diablo]

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Erm, so I am supposed to believe you rather than the dozens of professional reviewers? Yeah, No.

none of them have done HBM benchmarks

 

i have

 

go check the figures

 

some of us here even compared it to their own 980ti's

 

the same app i used is where the amd polaris leaks have been coming from

 

AFTER i done the HBM test

 

so looks like amd internally use what i use

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, El Diablo said:

none of them have done HBM benchmarks

 

i have

 

go check the figures

 

some of us here even compared it to their own 980ti's

 

the same app i used is where the amd polaris leaks have been coming from

 

AFTER i done the HBM test

 

so looks like amd internally use what i use

So you used a random app on the internet to test memory bandwidth? This is totally credible and I will blindly believe you 100%....