SO MUCH WANT!!!

[Praesi]

1 hour ago, Loleo said:

Still those customers can use it and just because you can't/ won't doesn't mean you will. If it doesn't effect you in a bad way why bash on it? Think about it that way.

 

This is bashing for you?  

[Praesi]

57 minutes ago, Enderman said:

And what im saying is that they waited way too long to release a niche flagship card

it is just two fury Xs, so it is impossible for it to perform any better than two separate fury Xs or 980tis

 

Now AMD is releasing this flagship card months before two brand new GPU architectures

It will be last gen in less than a year, then enthusiasts will buy the better options

 

Do you see anyone buying the 295x2 now that fury X and 390x and 980ti exist?

Sure its "exclusive" and rare, but its last gen

Why would an enthusiast buy last gen hardware

Its typical lazy AMD Behaviour.

 

"Oh our FuryX is not as fast as the 980Ti, so lets just throw another GPU on it and tatataaa. Wow look at those Benchmark Scores 0_o !!!

----

*Microstutter and XF Issues are not part of our Marketing campain*

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Praesi said:

Its typical lazy AMD Behaviour.

 

"Oh our FuryX is not as fast as the 980Ti, so lets just throw another GPU on it and tatataaa. Wow look at those Benchmark Scores 0_o !!!

----

*Microstutter and XF Issues are not part of our Marketing campain*

well then they can claim its the fastest "graphics card"

even though its not the fastest GPU

[Matthewv1998]

On March 15, 2016 at 7:39 PM, jkeasley said:

That's called the R9 390X2 by powercolor

This is an actual dual fury x2

[Citadelen]

4 hours ago, Enderman said:

well in a few months, why would a dev or college buy a last-gen GPU if pascal and polaris perform better and are cheaper

You say that, but Raja has stated devs, their partners and people in the film industry were pleased with what they showed, and there are benefits to dual GPU cards.

[Enderman]

Just now, Citadelen said:

You say that, but Raja has stated devs, their partners and people in the film industry were pleased with what they showed, and there are benefits to dual GPU cards.

the only benefit is less space used

[Citadelen]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

the only benefit is less space used

Still a benefit, especially seeing as you need less space for two of them instead of four Fury Xs.

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Citadelen said:

Still a benefit, especially seeing as you need less space for two of them instead of four Fury Xs.

yeah i never said it wasnt

i said that very few people need a gpu that size, and even fewer people have $3000 for it

so this gpu makes sense for only a handful of people

 

and no, developers have large pc cases if they need this much power, most dont restrict themselves to mitx or whatever

[Citadelen]

15 minutes ago, Enderman said:

yeah i never said it wasnt

i said that very few people need a gpu that size, and even fewer people have $3000 for it

so this gpu makes sense for only a handful of people

 

and no, developers have large pc cases if they need this much power, most dont restrict themselves to mitx or whatever

This card isn't even targeted at enthusiasts, it's a hybrid between a FirePro and a Radeon. The card has a TDP of 350W, as much as two Nano's, but without thermal throttling. It's a good product, no matter how badly you want it to be bad. 

[Enderman]

Just now, Citadelen said:

It's a good product

WOW! great job at proving your statements! I can totally agree with your 100% true claims!

That is excellent proof and logic, yes, you must have gotten an A in elementary school!

[Citadelen]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

WOW! great job at proving your statements! I can totally agree with your 100% true claims!

That is excellent proof and logic, yes, you must have gotten an A in elementary school!

Good job skipping everything I've said and focusing on that one piece of my argument. You're obviously the real genius here.

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Citadelen said:

Good job skipping everything I've said and focusing on that one piece of my argument. You're obviously the real genius here.

you still havent proven anything that ive said wrong

your "its not targeted at enthusiasts" claim is clearly not what AMD has said about it

 

maybe  if you can come up with some proof that it will magically perform better than two Fury Xs or 980tis or the next pascal/polaris flagships then I will believe you

Or maybe you think that $1500 is less than $1200 and it has better price performance?

 

 

[Citadelen]

28 minutes ago, Enderman said:

you still havent proven anything that ive said wrong

your "its not targeted at enthusiasts" claim is clearly not what AMD has said about it

 

maybe  if you can come up with some proof that it will magically perform better than two Fury Xs or 980tis or the next pascal/polaris flagships then I will believe you

Or maybe you think that $1500 is less than $1200 and it has better price performance?

 

 

https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/AMD-launches-dual-Fiji-card-Radeon-Pro-Duo-targeting-VR-developers-1500

VR developers will want high performance now, not later, and it will probably perform around the same as two Fury Xs, but with massively less power consumption. This card has 16Tflops of SP compute, Pascal will cap out at 12, it generally takes two generations for dual cards to loose their edge.

 

[harrynowl]

4 hours ago, Praesi said:

Its typical lazy AMD Behaviour.

 

"Oh our FuryX is not as fast as the 980Ti, so lets just throw another GPU on it and tatataaa. Wow look at those Benchmark Scores 0_o !!!

----

*Microstutter and XF Issues are not part of our Marketing campain*

To be fair AMDs \ ATIs strategy has always been to build 2 scaleable GPUs and throw them together. Nothing new. Nvidia dabbled in it as well.

 

High density compute is nice.

[TestiezMachin3]

On 3/15/2016 at 6:57 AM, Starelementpoke said:

Wait, you can find used 980tis for $500? 

Definitely. Just search on ebay, takes digging though. I got my 980 for 375 shipped and it still was in it's plastic film.

[Loleo]

23 minutes ago, Citadelen said:

 

What I see as the biggest advantage of the pro duo for me as a consumer is that it doesn't require a eATX board with a bazillion graphic card slots AND that because the fury x features an enclosed loop for the beginning i can only fit 2 maybe three in a 360 rad (I don't really know how thick and long they really are and it would be great if someone told me since I can't find their actual rad sizes). Because of this I could easily fit TWO or even THREE pro duos in my rig because my board only allows 2 way SLI and three-way crossfire. (I only have a 360 rad location to mount the GPU AIO's)

[Loleo]

5 hours ago, Praesi said:

This is bashing for you?  

I never specified that you were bashing on it or anyone else for that matter, although I do think that we should not bash on anything that hasn't been released yet. 

[spartaman64]

5 hours ago, Praesi said:

Its typical lazy AMD Behaviour.

 

"Oh our FuryX is not as fast as the 980Ti, so lets just throw another GPU on it and tatataaa. Wow look at those Benchmark Scores 0_o !!!

----

*Microstutter and XF Issues are not part of our Marketing campain*

they dont do this because the fury x isnt as fast as the 980 ti in dx11 game they are doing this because they release a card like this for every generation since like the 3870 x2

how is it lazy if this is something we expect them to do every generation

[TheRandomness]

On 15/03/2016 at 2:31 AM, Enderman said:

why would you want one

new GPUs are about to be released from AMD and nvidia on completely new architectures which will be more power efficient, run cooler, quieter, and perform better

Because why not. AMD better get a dual polaris out on time now.

[Loleo]

1 minute ago, spartaman64 said:

-SNIP-

The funny thing is about how everyone is complaining about how the 980 ti outperforms the fury x alt ought he fury x will outperform the 980ti in multiGPU setups.

[Enderman]

2 hours ago, Citadelen said:

https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/AMD-launches-dual-Fiji-card-Radeon-Pro-Duo-targeting-VR-developers-1500

VR developers will want high performance now, not later, and it will probably perform around the same as two Fury Xs, but with massively less power consumption. This card has 16Tflops of SP compute, Pascal will cap out at 12, it generally takes two generations for dual cards to loose their edge.

 

12

but 12 per card, not 6 per card

so with two cards you could theoretically get 24

and idk about you, but 24 for less money seems like a better deal than 16 for more money...

 

And you can already get high performance now

two 980tis will perform better than the Duo and cost less

so why would developers want to downgrade their performance for $1500?

[spartaman64]

7 minutes ago, Enderman said:

12

but 12 per card, not 6 per card

so with two cards you could theoretically get 24

and idk about you, but 24 for less money seems like a better deal than 16 for more money...

 

And you can already get high performance now

two 980tis will perform better than the Duo and cost less

so why would developers want to downgrade their performance for $1500?

the peak compute of the 980 ti is 5.63 tflops so if it has 100% scaling two would bring it to 11.26 tflops while the fury x2 has 16 tflops

and they appears to have accounted for scaling with the 16 tflop number because a regular fury x has 8.6 tflops so with perfect scaling its 17.2 but of course you cant get that

[Citadelen]

11 minutes ago, Enderman said:

-snip-

Do you honestly expect Nvidias flagship Titan to launch in a couple of months, it's most likely releasing in 2017. Significantly better compute and LiquidVR are the reason devs are using AMD over Nvidia for VR.

[Enderman]

7 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

the peak compute of the 980 ti is 5.63 tflops so if it has 100% scaling two would bring it to 11.26 tflops while the fury x2 has 16 tflops

and they appears to have accounted for scaling with the 16 tflop number because a regular fury x has 8.6 tflops so with perfect scaling its 17.2 but of course you cant get that

So you're assuming pascal will be the same as the 980ti? lol

Maybe look at some gaming benchmarks too, how many tflops a card has does not = more performance

Especially developers that use cuda, as you can see from every amd vs nvidia benchmark

 

But this isnt an AMD vs nvidia argument

This is AMD's own cards vs this card too

This card is just two fury Xs, of course polaris will be cheaper and perform better

Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you just a kid with the "more expensive is better" mentality?

[Citadelen]

Just now, Enderman said:

-snip-

OpenCL says hi. Nvidia doesn't have LiquidVR, at the moment they are a poor choice for VR devs, it's that simple.