How can i unlock the 5820K into a 5930K or 5960X or 6950x

[El Diablo]

The 5820k has 2 cores disabled right?

 

and it has cpu lanes disabled

 

how do i re enable them 

 

i know u can do the same with amd cpu's but i cant seem to find data anywhere on this 

 

some guy on youtube told me to flash the bios

 

i think the new I7-6950X is a haswell chip because its x99 so i can do it too?

 

 

[thekeemo]

No.

Microcode (you cant edit that)

 

[suchamoneypit]

Im pretty sure Intel physically disables the cores now so this is no longer possible.

[El Diablo]

yea but it can be updated from microcode updateation,,,,

 

some motherboards automatically unlock this with amd chips

[Hackentosher]

2 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

yea but it can be updated from microcode updateation,,,,

 

some motherboards automatically unlock this with amd chips

Sorry, hun, @suchamoneypit is right. It's both a micro code and a physical thing. I think they talked about this on the most recent WAN show or The Tek where there used to be a way to turn a pentium into a kickass pentium.

[Godlygamer23]

2 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

yea but it can be updated from microcode updateation,,,,

 

some motherboards automatically unlock this with amd chips

No motherboard manufacturer has done this, and there's no guarantee it'll work at all. Intel disables the extra stuff, and even if you could enable the extra cores, you could get instability. That's one reason why it's sold as a lower end product. It did not meet the requirements for the higher end CPUs.

[W-L]

3 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

yea but it can be updated from microcode updateation,,,,

some motherboards automatically unlock this with amd chips

That hasn't been a thing for a long time now, they nowadays bin the chips that cannot be the highest end extreme editions into the lower tiered stuff. The cores are psychically disabled on the silicon so there is no way of enabling them or making it work. 

[El Diablo]

Just now, Godlygamer23 said:

No motherboard manufacturer has done this, and there's no guarantee it'll work at all. Intel disables the extra stuff, and even if you could enable the extra cores, you could get instability. That's one reason why it's sold as a lower end product. It did not meet the requirements for the higher end CPUs.

i have this on my asus motherboard 

 

it has cpu core unlocker

 

i totaly agree with you with the instability stuff

 

even if one of the cores worked at a lower clock speed  its still better than nothing right?

[MageTank]

4 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

i have this on my asus motherboard 

 

it has cpu core unlocker

 

i totaly agree with you with the instability stuff

 

even if one of the cores worked at a lower clock speed  its still better than nothing right?

If you would rather have more slower cores than fewer faster cores, you should have invested in a big Xeon. More cores does not always mean better performance. It depends entirely on your intended usage scenario. If you are just gaming, fewer faster cores are a better investment. If you are doing heavy lifting (content creation, compression, etc) then more cores would be ideal. You have 6 cores with Haswell IPC and a decent clock rate. Be happy with what is considered "the best of both worlds". 

[El Diablo]

9 minutes ago, suchamoneypit said:

Im pretty sure Intel physically disables the cores now so this is no longer possible.

thats so bullshit man

 

ok there must be a way to undo this

 

lets all figure this out

Edited March 10, 2016 by El Diablo
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[MageTank]

2 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

thats so bullshit man

 

ok there must be a way to undo this

 

lets all figure this out

There is nothing to figure out. It's not possible. End of story.

[harrynowl]

They laser the cores off. More often than not because they were defective. And microcode is encrypted.

 

16 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

yea but it can be updated from microcode updateation,,,,

 

some motherboards automatically unlock this with amd chips

ACC worked because they didn't laser the cores off. Although they dropped it in the 9xx chipsets. ACC existed because AMD made it exist.

 

 

[Godlygamer23]

8 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

i have this on my asus motherboard 

 

it has cpu core unlocker

 

i totaly agree with you with the instability stuff

 

even if one of the cores worked at a lower clock speed  its still better than nothing right?

Then go ahead and try it if you actually have the option. See what it does. I can't stop you either way.

[Aereldor]

4 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

thats so bullshit man

 

ok there must be a way to undo this

 

lets all figure this out

Open up the CPU, find the two disabled cores, and find a way to re-enable them with a soldering iron, a pair of tweezers, and the blood of seven virgins.

In other words, there is no way to undo it.

[suchamoneypit]

3 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

thats so bullshit man

 

ok there must be a way to undo this

 

lets all figure this out

yeah there is nothing to figure out. Unless you know how to fix the silicon they physically destroyed to disable it, your not getting it working.

[El Diablo]

Ok what about unlocking the cpu lanes

 

the whole point they lazer cut of teh extra cores meens the cpu lanes are still there

 

how would we go about unlocking them

 

theres enough clever peoples here to figure this out,,lets do it

[El Diablo]

On 10/03/2016 at 1:47 AM, suchamoneypit said:

yeah there is nothing to figure out. Unless you know how to fix the silicon they physically destroyed to disable it, your not getting it working.

[El Diablo]

On 10/03/2016 at 1:45 AM, Godlygamer23 said:

Then go ahead and try it if you actually have the option. See what it does. I can't stop you either way.

what about the cpu lanes

 

lets figure it out

 

what cpu do u got?

[Godlygamer23]

Just now, El Diablo said:

what about the cpu lanes

 

lets figure it out

 

what cpu do u got?

3570K.

[suchamoneypit]

2 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

Ok what about unlocking the cpu lanes

 

the whole point they lazer cut of teh extra cores meens the cpu lanes are still there

 

how would we go about unlocking them

 

theres enough clever peoples here to figure this out,,lets do it

These processors are very expensive. Not many people own them, even fewer own them with a deep knowledge of this aspect of them, and are willing to put in the time to look into it.

 

1 minute ago, El Diablo said:

what about the cpu lanes

 

lets figure it out

 

what cpu do u got?

I think you underestimate the difficulty of the task your requesting, and how few people have the know-how to even begin to look into how to do it (if its even possible, which is unlikely).

[El Diablo]

Just now, Godlygamer23 said:

3570K.

yours has 2mb of cache disabled right,, thats not something u can cut off

 

and u have another 4 threads that can be unlocked

 

i doubt highly they cut them out, the whole chip can get f'd up

 

everything about your chip and the i7-3770 are the same apart from the l2 cache and 4 more threads

[suchamoneypit]

2 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

yours has 2mb of cache disabled right,, thats not something u can cut off

 

and u have another 4 threads that can be unlocked

 

i doubt highly they cut them out, the whole chip can get f'd up

 

everything about your chip and the i7-3770 are the same apart from the l2 cache and 4 more threads

threads are dependent on the cores, which are disabled, which means there are no 4 threads to unlock. They do cut them out, they are disabled to prevent people like you from buying a $300 CPU and unlocking it to a $1000 CPU. Allowing people to do that would be a bad business idea. They have the advanced technology to make a CPU. Im pretty sure its in the realm of possibilities to think they can simply alter a small section of it.

[Godlygamer23]

1 minute ago, El Diablo said:

yours has 2mb of cache disabled right,, thats not something u can cut off

 

and u have another 4 threads that can be unlocked

 

i doubt highly they cut them out, the whole chip can get f'd up

 

everything about your chip and the i7-3770 are the same apart from the l2 cache and 4 more threads

I'm not an expert on CPU manufacturing. I don't build them. Yes, the registers found in the 3770 is found on the 3570 as well. They're just disabled or non-functional in the first place.

 

Just like you can take out certain pins on a CPU, I almost imagine that you can cut out parts of the CPU that are not used and still allow the CPU to function because they're not being used.

[Godlygamer23]

Just now, suchamoneypit said:

threads are dependent on the cores, which are disabled, which means there are no 4 threads to unlock.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. A 3570 and 3770 have the same number of cores - 4.

[El Diablo]

1 minute ago, suchamoneypit said:

threads are dependent on the cores, which are disabled, which means there are no 4 threads to unlock. They do cut them out, they are disabled to prevent people like you from buying a $300 CPU and unlocking it to a $1000 CPU. Allowing people to do that would be a bad business idea. They have the advanced technology to make a CPU. Im pretty sure its in the realm of possibilities to think they can simply alter a small section of it.

yea but the i7 3700 has 4 cores,, the same as his

 

so it meens theres stuff inside his processor which can be unlocked

 

why nobody has done it so far beats me

 

maby intel payd all the board makers money to keep this quiet