SK Hynix details plan for HBM2 production. Starting in Q3 2016.

[AlTech]

Are you ready for Polaris 10/11 or Vega 10? Good because it's not coming for a long time because SK Hynix is going to start production of HBM2 packages in Q3 2016. The production will start with 4GB Packages and eventually moving to 8GB versions in Q4 as well.

 

 

 

 

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The new HBM2 memory makes use of beefier 8Gb (Gigabit) dies which are connected and stacked vertically through the TSVs. Each package of these dies is able to deliver speeds of 256 GB/s (Gbps bandwidth) which is twice the bandwidth of current generation HBM1 memory that provides a 128 GB/s bandwidth and over 7x increase compared to a 4 Gb GDDR5 DRAM chip (36 Gbps). The 4 GB HBM2 package can be incorporated in several stacks, offering higher memory space at better efficiency than current generation DRAM

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. Having either two of these packages on an interposer would get 8 GB of VRAM along with 512 GB/s of total bandwidth and four packages would mean 16 GB of VRAM and 1 TB/s bandwidth.

 

 

 

OH COME ON! What happened to Polaris 10/11 and VEga 10 in June?

 

http://wccftech.com/sk-hynix-hbm2-mass-production-q3-2016/

 

[Dabombinable]

6 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

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OH COME ON! What happened to Polaris 10/11 and VEga 10 in June?

 

http://wccftech.com/sk-hynix-hbm2-mass-production-q3-2016/

 

Samsung will wreck Hynix again?

[AlTech]

Just now, Dabombinable said:

Samsung will wreck Hynix again?

Looks like it if AMD will keep to the rumored schedule. Otherwise it'll be October-November.

[Dabombinable]

Just now, AluminiumTech said:

Looks like it if AMD will keep to the rumored schedule. Otherwise it'll be October-November.

Either way, the vendor using Hynix the least will probably have the HBM2 that overclocks the best 

[byalexandr]

Well then I have no doubt that Polaris cards will be using Samsung chips.

[Notional]

AMD says everything is on time, so I doubt it's not. Either they have priority of stock that is being manufactured now, or they will use 2GB stacks for 8GB of vram in the new cards, which might already be in production. I would not worry.

[patrickjp93]

1 hour ago, Notional said:

AMD says everything is on time, so I doubt it's not. Either they have priority of stock that is being manufactured now, or they will use 2GB stacks for 8GB of vram in the new cards, which might already be in production. I would not worry.

Actually they'll just use the 4GB stacks Samsung has had in mass production since January.

[NumLock21]

can't buy when you don't have $. So start saving up. Time flies when you don't think about it.

[Citadelen]

Hynix isn't the only one to make HBM2, Samsung has been mass producing since January. 

[DocSwag]

I was too lazy to post this 

This is my opinion:

        Polaris will launch in mid-year, with GDDR5. Only mid range and low end as well as mobile will            launch, and it will demonstrate great efficiency improvements

        Later in Q3 we will get some mid-high end Polaris with HBM2, though in lower storage amounts

        high end Polaris/Vega will launch in Q4 of this year, with 8 or 16GB of HBM2 memory 

[Doobeedoo]

They will probably use Samsung's chips in early batch and Hynix being alternative later on.

[ThreePinkApples]

The interesting bit here is that 8GB for high end doesn't seem like that good of a config option, based on these slides. 

8GB would be 2 4GB stacks, equal to 512GB/s, that's nice, but wouldn't 4 stacks be more sensible to reach 1TB/s? But that'll mean 16GB RAM, which seems a bit overkill, we can live with 8GB for a few more years. 

[Sakkura]

Wait, hold on. SK Hynix develops HBM, then gets beaten to market with HBM2 by Samsung? Fail. At least hang on to your head start for one generation, man.

[Dabombinable]

2 hours ago, Sakkura said:

Wait, hold on. SK Hynix develops HBM, then gets beaten to market with HBM2 by Samsung? Fail. At least hang on to your head start for one generation, man.

Samsung is Samsung, and if I remember correctly, they have their own fabs plus more money.

[Carde]

1 hour ago, Dabombinable said:

Samsung is Samsung, and if I remember correctly, they have their own fabs plus more money.

Pretty much and if they can produce and sell Hynix still gets money cause they developed the stuff.

 

Beside before the new gen cards are widely available it will be Q4 earliest looking at past launches and also the fact that these cards promise a lot and if they deliver demand will be high.

[Bhav]

When I buy a new graphics card and the gram chips say anything other than Samsung:

 

 

[Bhav]

And when autocorrect changes vram to gram and I can't edit that shit:

 

 

[patrickjp93]

2 hours ago, Carde said:

Pretty much and if they can produce and sell Hynix still gets money cause they developed the stuff.

 

Beside before the new gen cards are widely available it will be Q4 earliest looking at past launches and also the fact that these cards promise a lot and if they deliver demand will be high.

Not this time. AMD is the patent holder, and they're not collecting royalties on it. Not to mention that's also a stipulation of letting the tech become a JEDEC standard...

[Jahramika]

On 3/8/2016 at 6:40 AM, AluminiumTech said:

Looks like it if AMD will keep to the rumored schedule. Otherwise it'll be October-November.

Already making 2gb version

[patrickjp93]

11 hours ago, Jahramika said:

Already making 2gb version 

No reason to use it other than for APUs. What will they do, put 8GB in a 4x2 config with 1TB/s in bandwidth? That would be asinine. There's no demand for 2GB stacks until APUs sensible for using them are on their way.

[AlTech]

11 hours ago, Jahramika said:

Already making 2gb version 

And making a 2GB version doesn't matter. They need 4Gb and 8Gb versions for Polaris 11 and Vega 10

[AlTech]

11 hours ago, Citadelen said:

Hynix isn't the only one to make HBM2, Samsung has been mass producing since January. 

Yeah well Hynix is the main supplier of it.

[AlTech]

8 hours ago, aerandir92 said:

The interesting bit here is that 8GB for high end doesn't seem like that good of a config option, based on these slides. 

8GB would be 2 4GB stacks, equal to 512GB/s, that's nice, but wouldn't 4 stacks be more sensible to reach 1TB/s? But that'll mean 16GB RAM, which seems a bit overkill, we can live with 8GB for a few more years. 

We could have 4 2Gb stacks so therefore 1Tb/s but 8GB.

[Clyne]

Well at least we know Micron is making GDDR5X before Hynix is making HBM2!

[patrickjp93]

2 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Yeah well Hynix is the main supplier of it.

No, Hynix is playing second fiddle. Samsung's production capacity dwarfs it entirely.