Polaris vs Pascal

[evomusicman]

Let's start a discussion of what is known about the GPUs and how you think they will perform based upon the information already present, more and more is coming out each day so keeping up can be hard!   

[Curufinwe_wins]

There have been hundreds of threads on this....

 

But if you ask me, I have a feeling Polaris will be better at all but the top end where Nvidia will do literally ANYTHING to make sure they own the top. Including making a super huge graphics card that costs them money in the short term.

[Leonard]

but we don't really have any definitive information yet other than they will be new, faster than the others and have a different number scheme. 

[vanished]

I think it's way too early to start talking about which is better.  We have like 1 demo from AMD showing the huge power consumption improvements in Polaris and pretty much nothing from nvidia so yeah...

[Raiden60]

Well, the 300 series was released less than a year ago, it seems a bit rushed IMHO.

 

But, I'm sure AMD wouldn't release anything awful, so they've probably got a trick up their sleeve.

 

I'm personally on Team Green, despite all their bullshit with GameWorks.

[DaltonM]

Pascal is for sure going to have gamestreaming, so it wins in my book. But if AMD gets it, and can stream to non AMD devices, I will switch sides. 

[EarthboundHero]

2 minutes ago, Raiden60 said:

Well, the 300 series was released less than a year ago, it seems a bit rushed IMHO.

 

But, I'm sure AMD wouldn't release anything awful, so they've probably got a trick up their sleeve.

 

I'm personally on Team Green, despite all their bullshit with GameWorks.

Considering the 300 series were all rebadges, they've had plenty of time to work on Polaris.

[Raiden60]

Just now, EarthboundHero said:

Considering the 300 series were all rebadges, they've had plenty of time to work on Polaris.

True, I think 2kliksphilip (or 3) made a whole video about it, saying pretty much this.

[Coaxialgamer]

WE . DON'T . KNOW .

 

Edit: but there is more hype for polaris

[Raiden60]

1 minute ago, Coaxialgamer said:

WE . DON'T . KNOW .

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2 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Edit: but there is more hype for polaris

That may be because they actually have something to show off atm

[Coaxialgamer]

Just now, Raiden60 said:

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read my post again , but there are literally hundreds of threads like this , and people don't understand we don't know much more than them except rumors , speculations etc...

[handymanshandle]

Well then I didn't realize that AMD named the 400 series Polaris. I remembered the 400 series was going to be called Arctic Islands... Regardless I do have high hopes for their new series. Then again I have high hopes for AMD in general. mostly that they at least prove their worth.

[MageTank]

15 minutes ago, evomusicman said:

Let's start a discussion of what is known about the GPUs and how you think they will perform based upon the information already present, more and more is coming out each day so keeping up can be hard!   

"Let's start a discussion of what is known!"- Proceeds to add absolutely nothing to the thread, not even what he knows about it. Sorry friend, but based on that alone, i believe this thread was made with ulterior motives. The kind that intentionally starts wars. 

[Coaxialgamer]

4 minutes ago, wcreek said:

Well then I didn't realize that AMD named the 400 series Polaris. I remembered the 400 series was going to be called Arctic Islands... Regardless I do have high hopes for their new series. Then again I have high hopes for AMD in general. mostly that they at least prove their worth.

well , just like the 7000/200 series are called southern islands/ volcanic islands ( ironic considering this is the hawaii gpu we are talking about ) respectively

[Raiden60]

2 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

read my post again , but there are literally hundreds of threads like this , and people don't understand we don't know much more than them except rumors , speculations etc...

I suppose nothing is certain, true.

[Kryptyx]

What is the point of all of these threads? It just leads to fanboyism. We don't have any credible information. Useless thread is useless. Reported.

[AresKrieger]

11 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

WE . DON'T . KNOW .

 

Edit: but there is more hype for polaris

That's because amd's entire marketing strategy is hype, which I don't approve off, since almost all hype is misleading, exaggeration or lies. Personally I'm rooting for team blue

[Coaxialgamer]

Just now, AresKrieger said:

That's because amd's entire marketing strategy is hype, which I don't approve off, since almost all hype is misleading, exaggeration or lies. Personally I'm rooting for team blue

intel hd graphics  FTW !

[Citadelen]

I personally think Polaris will be more efficient and cooler than Pascal, but will be slightly slower.

[Nena Trinity]

Polaris seems to be released first!

[Briggsy]

It will completely depend on how much dx12 has infiltrated the market by then, and whether Nvidia adds hardware to handle true async compute (there is no driver based, software driven async compute, because async compute is out of sync with the cpu, and software run by the cpu cannot be asyncronous of the cpu). If dx11 is still prevalent, then it won't matter whether Nvidia changes their architecture layout or not, but if dx12 is in full swing by the end of the year, polaris may show promise.

[SteveGrabowski0]

I'm going Pascal, because Polaris is just a huge ball of heat in the sky. Hydrogen at millions of degrees, who wants that in their desktop?

[ivan134]

2 hours ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

There have been hundreds of threads on this....

 

But if you ask me, I have a feeling Polaris will be better at all but the top end where Nvidia will do literally ANYTHING to make sure they own the top. Including making a super huge graphics card that costs them money in the short term.

I just hope that both sides ditch the idea of reference PCBs only for their top end cards. The geniuses that made that decision on both sides should be fired.

The only place I can think of that AMD has an advantage so far is support for HDR monitors, but that's only because Nvidia has been quiet so far. For all we know Pascal could support it and they'll talk about it when they're ready to reveal.

1 hour ago, Briggsy said:

It will completely depend on how much dx12 has infiltrated the market by then, and whether Nvidia adds hardware to handle true async compute (there is no driver based, software driven async compute, because async compute is out of sync with the cpu, and software run by the cpu cannot be asyncronous of the cpu). If dx11 is still prevalent, then it won't matter whether Nvidia changes their architecture layout or not, but if dx12 is in full swing by the end of the year, polaris may show promise.

I dont think Nvidia would forgo the hardware schedulers. That would be suicide. Dx12 will have a faster adoption rate compared to older APIs because MS is basically giving Win 10 away for free. We're already getting at least 2 dx 12 games this year, which some others being hinted at to get a patch later.

[Curufinwe_wins]

45 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

I just hope that both sides ditch the idea of reference PCBs only for their top end cards. The geniuses that made that decision on both sides should be fired.

The only place I can think of that AMD has an advantage so far is support for HDR monitors, but that's only because Nvidia has been quiet so far. For all we know Pascal could support it and they'll talk about it when they're ready to reveal.

I dont think Nvidia would forgo the hardware schedulers. That would be suicide. Dx12 will have a faster adoption rate compared to older APIs because MS is basically giving Win 10 away for free. We're already getting at least 2 dx 12 games this year, which some others being hinted at to get a patch later.

Yea... reference pcbs only is idiotic...

Seriously though, I think Nvidia is letting AMD hype the shit out of Polaris so when they beat it on the top end (even if they can't in the mid to low) the fall from grace is hard and fast. 

 

Just like the 980ti and Fiji launch.