Do the Gtx 960 keep being a good Gpu to play most of the games in 1080P 60Hz?

[Citadelen]

4 minutes ago, T-Aero said:

Again i think that Nvdia loses per 3 -5 fps but is more chepear so with this 100 that i save with more 50 i can buy a ram so i gonna stick with the gtx 960 ...

 

What currency are those figures in?

[don_svetlio]

Just now, KemoKa said:

I means it's the full Tahiti XT GPU. 2048 stream cores versus 1792.

Tonga*
Tahiti XT is 280X

[KemoKa]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

Tonga*
Tahiti XT is 280X

True, true.
 

GCN 1.2

Tesselation performance ftw.

[ArmswieldTheHero]

3 minutes ago, KemoKa said:

True, true.
 

GCN 1.2

Tesselation performance ftw.

What exactly is tessellation anyway?

[KemoKa]

Just now, ArmswieldTheHero said:

What exactly is tessellation anyway?

It basically means a higher polygon count for models.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, ArmswieldTheHero said:

What exactly is tessellation anyway?

A horribly inefficient way of doing things.

[ArmswieldTheHero]

Just now, KemoKa said:

It basically means a higher polygon count for models.

Thanks! I'm pretty new to all of this stuff, trying to learn n such. just built my budget pc a month or two ago.

[KemoKa]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

A horribly inefficient way of doing things.

Kind of like Nvidia's AA solutions OH! OH! SHOTS FIRED! SHOTSFIREEEEEED!

[ArmswieldTheHero]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

A horribly inefficient way of doing things.

pls stahp. You're not helping anybody.

[App4that]

9 minutes ago, KemoKa said:

Lol, being an engineer doesn't make you an end-all, be-all authority on computers. I work with a computer scientist and an electrical engineer and they are just as incompetent as any other end user at working on consumer PCs. I'm the only reason my boss knows SSDs exist, let alone that they're wonderful. I've been schooling them for months, now. Me. a pathetic 18-year-old basement dweller.

If only there were a fairy land far far away where people didn't use their titles and areas of academic study as an absolute benchmark for their level of authority on a particular subject...

 

Queen Elizabeth II is an army mechanic, you know?

Listen, it's cute that you're trying to help. And when you internet salesmen push your wares for gaming, I tend to stay out of the way.

 

You're giving bad advise. I'm not your friends. I'm devoted to this shit.

 

Your karma when they get a 380/x for a task it's not suited for. OP's choice to follow.

[don_svetlio]

3 minutes ago, ArmswieldTheHero said:

pls stahp. You're not helping anybody.

I'm being objective.

Hairworks uses Tess - it degrades performance by about 5 fps assuming 8x is applied
Tress FX uses Direct Compute - reduces fps by 2 on Nvidia and 1 on AMD

EDIT: Default Nvidia setting is 64x which reduces fps by 20-30

[T-Aero]

Again a overclock GPU like the GTX 960 AMP 4GB is better than the R9 380 Stock?

[ArmswieldTheHero]

Hey just curious, why are you guys going hard at something so... pointless?

[don_svetlio]

Just now, T-Aero said:

Again a overclock GPU like the GTX 960 AMP 4GB is better than the R9 380 Stock?

No because almost all 380s are also factory OCed - Sapphire Nitro comes at 1100MHz vs the stock 1000

[KemoKa]

Just now, ArmswieldTheHero said:

Hey just curious, why are you guys going hard at something so... pointless?

Trying to end a war between two stubborn groups of people who are convinced that their numbers are better than the other side's numbers, regardless of whose are higher.

[ArmswieldTheHero]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

I'm being objective.

Hairworks uses Tess - it degrades performance by about 5 fps assuming 8x is applied
Tress FX uses Direct Compute - reduces fps by 2 on Nvidia and 1 on AMD

EDIT: Default Nvidia setting is 64x which reduces fps by 20-30

I really dont care what you say you're being. You didnt answer my perfectly reasonable question about just what was tessellation.

[ArmswieldTheHero]

Just now, KemoKa said:

Trying to end a war between two stubborn groups of people who are convinced that their numbers are better than the other side's numbers, regardless of whose are higher.

So pretty much... each side is convinced that "the poop we're flinging doesnt stink any worse than theres"..?

[KemoKa]

Just now, ArmswieldTheHero said:

So pretty much... each side is convinced that "the poop we're flinging doesnt stink any worse than theres"..?

No, pretty much "our numbers are better than their numbers because our numbers are ours."

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, ArmswieldTheHero said:

I really dont care what you say you're being. You didnt answer my perfectly reasonable question about just what was tessellation.

It's a method by which more polygons are applied to a 3D mesh so as to enhance detail and make it look better. The same can be achieved via DirectCompute while being much more efficient.

Tess  was debuted by AMD in 2004-2005-ish IIRC - somewhere there and has since then been abused by Nvidia

[ArmswieldTheHero]

Just now, KemoKa said:

No, pretty much "our numbers are better than their numbers because our numbers are ours."

Seems pretty... stupid.

[App4that]

1 minute ago, KemoKa said:

Trying to end a war between two stubborn groups of people who are convinced that their numbers are better than the other side's numbers, regardless of whose are higher.

 

Just now, ArmswieldTheHero said:

So pretty much... each side is convinced that "the poop we're flinging doesnt stink any worse than theres"..?

The problem is each is better at different tasks, so both are right, from a curtain point of view.

 

And because their product of choice is better at that task, then it must be better in all tasks? Right?

 

No, they both have strengths and weaknesses.

 

 

[ArmswieldTheHero]

Just now, App4that said:

 

The problem is each is better at different tasks, so both are right, from a curtain point of view.

 

And because their product of choice is better at that task, then it must be better in all tasks? Right?

 

No, they both have strengths and weaknesses.

 

 

So which is better for what the OP wants?

[Ansau]

4 minutes ago, T-Aero said:

Again a overclock GPU like the GTX 960 AMP 4GB is better than the R9 380 Stock?

GTX 960 needs to be at around 1400MHz to match stock r9 380 at 970MHz. Beyond that, the 960 can only go 10% higher, while the 380 around 20-25% from stock.

[App4that]

Just now, ArmswieldTheHero said:

So which is better for what the OP wants?

Rendering, the 960. Gaming, the 380.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, ArmswieldTheHero said:

So which is better for what the OP wants?

OP needs to check what his apps support

OpenCL - 380
CUDA - 960